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The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I
fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! -- Snag |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get a goner back on the road. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! I have found that it is more effective to throw the money at the parts suppliers. When throwing money at machines they just sit there. Sometimes they may grin a little, but machines can be subtle and you can't always tell when they are laughing at you. A good indication is when you start the engine after installing some spendy part and it promptly sticks a rod through the block. The engine equivalent of sticking your tongue out. Eric |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get a goner back on the road. Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off the tractor except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start spending any serious money before I knew the machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a set of tires it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling fan . -- Snag |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get a goner back on the road. Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been As it should be. unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off the tractor except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start spending any serious money before I knew the machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a Axle problems? That can be big money. set of tires Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money. it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling fan . OK, those could be minor. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get a goner back on the road. Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been As it should be. unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off the tractor except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start spending any serious money before I knew the machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a Axle problems? That can be big money. set of tires Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money. it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling fan . OK, those could be minor. I've already located all the parts needed for the axle problems , around a hundred bucks for used everything but the bearing and seal on eBay . Still shopping tires , but a pair for the rear will run around 150 bucks . Fronts might be able to get away with just new tubes . Steering is probably an adjustment and I have stock that'll work for a blade that'll at least balance the fan . I suspect the PO looked for the cause of the vibration and never found it . It does explain all the fatigue cracks in the sheet metal . -- Snag |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:07:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get a goner back on the road. Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been As it should be. unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off the tractor except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start spending any serious money before I knew the machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a Axle problems? That can be big money. set of tires Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money. it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling fan . OK, those could be minor. I've already located all the parts needed for the axle problems , around a hundred bucks for used everything but the bearing and seal on eBay . Do you have the tools required? I've heard they can be, um, interestingly assembled. Still shopping tires , but a pair for the rear will run around 150 bucks . Wow, that's a steal! Fronts might be able to get away with just new tubes . That'd be nice. Steering is probably an adjustment and I have stock that'll work for a blade that'll at least balance the fan . I suspect the PO looked for the cause of the vibration and never found it . It does explain all the fatigue cracks in the sheet metal . No doubt. g -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:07:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get a goner back on the road. Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been As it should be. unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off the tractor except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start spending any serious money before I knew the machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a Axle problems? That can be big money. set of tires Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money. it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling fan . OK, those could be minor. I've already located all the parts needed for the axle problems , around a hundred bucks for used everything but the bearing and seal on eBay . Do you have the tools required? I've heard they can be, um, interestingly assembled. So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race from the axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to release the tension .. The only strange thing I found was 2 seals back to back - hydraulic oil on one side , grease on the other . Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta move some money and get parts ordered . -- Snag |
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Awesome!
i On 2014-10-23, Terry Coombs wrote: The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should . Time to start throwing money at it ! |
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On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! ... I don't recall -- what is it? -- |
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dpb wrote: On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: The patient will live ! ... I don't recall -- what is it? -- Terry Coombs wrote: I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and front blade with hydraulic raise/lower |
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On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:07:05 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
Still shopping tires , but a pair for the rear will run around 150 bucks . Fronts might be able to get away with just new tubes . -- Snag Do not know if this would be of any help. But I have a couple of 20 x 8.00-8 tires , a couple of 5x 6.00-6 tires and a couple of 20x10-8 tires. Dan |
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So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race from the axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to release the tension . The only strange thing I found was 2 seals back to back - hydraulic oil on one side , grease on the other . Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta move some money and get parts ordered . Did i miss a post? What make and model are you doing? |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 22:02:23 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: I asked: Do you have the tools required? I've heard they can be, um, interestingly assembled. So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race from the axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to release the tension . The only strange thing I found was 2 seals back to back - hydraulic oil on one side , grease on the other . Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta move some money and get parts ordered . Have at 'er, and let us know where to find the pics when you're done. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote: dpb wrote: On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: The patient will live ! ... I don't recall -- what is it? -- Terry Coombs wrote: I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and front blade with hydraulic raise/lower Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r No wonder the parts were so cheap. Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted. http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG I'd love one of those configured like that. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race from the axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to release the tension . The only strange thing I found was 2 seals back to back - hydraulic oil on one side , grease on the other . Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta move some money and get parts ordered . Did i miss a post? What make and model are you doing? You musta ... and more than one ! I got lucky and found a steal on a 1982 JD model 317 yard tractor with a mower deck and front blade . So far I have got the motor running needs plugs badly and tested the hydrostatic trans , and got all the busted/wore out stuff removed and repaired/parts ordered . It had a trashed bearing on the LR wheel that also took out the axle , hub , and bearings/seals . Right now I'm looking at tires , and I'm leaning towards tractor type lugs instead of turf tires . This thing is going to be pushing dirt and snow and mowing the orchard - ain't no puttin' greens here and never will be . -- Snag |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C." wrote: dpb wrote: On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: The patient will live ! ... I don't recall -- what is it? -- Terry Coombs wrote: I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and front blade with hydraulic raise/lower Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r No wonder the parts were so cheap. Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted. http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG I'd love one of those configured like that. I'd like one too ! But for now I'll settle for mowing and pushing snow/dirt . That is the same basic machine I got . -- Snag |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:24:11 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C." wrote: dpb wrote: On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: The patient will live ! ... I don't recall -- what is it? -- Terry Coombs wrote: I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and front blade with hydraulic raise/lower Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r No wonder the parts were so cheap. Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted. http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG I'd love one of those configured like that. I'd like one too ! But for now I'll settle for mowing and pushing snow/dirt . That is the same basic machine I got . Ayup. That mini-backhoe really draws me, though. Some day... -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:24:11 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C." wrote: dpb wrote: On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: The patient will live ! ... I don't recall -- what is it? -- Terry Coombs wrote: I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and front blade with hydraulic raise/lower Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r No wonder the parts were so cheap. Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted. http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG I'd love one of those configured like that. I'd like one too ! But for now I'll settle for mowing and pushing snow/dirt . That is the same basic machine I got . http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/se...actor&sort=rel http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/grd/4728066378.html Lots of tractors around here..... Some of the farms here use em for yard seperators...long lines of old tractors between fields "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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