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Well, passed my probation with flying colors, so am assured a permanent
position long as I want it. Or can handle it... Spent 18 years working
in my garage on mostly small stuff. 57 is getting on a bit to be working
with some of the big heavy stuff in a rendering plant.

Though I'd seen them on American Chopper, I never had occasion to use
the thin abrasive slitting disks for small angle grinders. Have come to
love them!

Forget the brand of oxy/acetylene torch, but prefer it over my long
favored Victor. Tips and the cutting attachment seal via o-rings well
before the nut is seated, and they use a fine vee toothed coupling that
prevents the tip or torch from rotating once tightened. Yeah, one should
use a wrench on the Victor torches, but I and everyone I've ever seen,
hand tightens them.

Never used any of the modern day battery powered tools, but boy, the
latest Milwuakee 18v brushless tools are impressive as hell. About a
grand for a drill, nut driver, grinder, torch (flashlight), 2
batteries/charger, and bag. Be my first big purchase after I get my
stuff here! Prices on tools are an eye opener. At one tool shop, $30 for
a carbide tipped scribe!

Though metric at two decimal places is not exactly intuitive yet, I find
general fabrication layout in MM is much faster and easier than dealing
with fractions.

Inverter welders, wow. First time I've used them and I am impressed.
Would still like to have a Syncrowave 350 if I were rich, but around a
grand will get me a nice little welder that will do stick or TIG and run
off a 10 amp outlet. And they run a pretty nice bead for stick welding.

I feared living way out in the sticks, tools and hardware would be hard
to come by. Well, not a great selection at the local hardware store, but
finding several suppliers that can get stuff here in a day or two. They
won't sell to individuals, but not hard to get an ABN (Australian
Business Number), required to do business with them. No sources equal to
McMaster or MSC yet. Gotta be someone here selling decent selections of
real machining supplies and tools but haven't found them. Not a big deal
right now, not much real machining going on, but when I finally get my
shop back together...

Have been more readily accepted than most places I worked in the States.
There's a lot of trash talk, all in good fun, but the place is
remarkably free of the egos and ****ing contests of jobs past. I'm the
old phart in the shop, but get along with the 18 year old apprentices as
well as the guys nearer my age.
Have long heard about Australians believing in "a fair go", and it's
true. My inevitable mistakes and oversights have been taken in stride as
part of my learning curve. They know I come from a different world, and
even someone with experience in the industry would take months to come
up to speed with this particular setup.

Maintenance all carry radios. My boss's name is John, and there was a
lot of confusion at first over which Jon/John was being called. So I
start hearing Yank, Yankee Jon, American Jon, etc, all confusing as
heck. Tried getting them to settle on Yank, with mixed results. Now,
right after I started a couple guys left. So I ended up with a radio
marked Houston. After a while I asked one of the guys which departed was
Houston. He laughed and said one of the outgoing had tagged me with
Houston (maybe having a very limited knowledge of US geography...)
Well, that has become my call sign. Am often hailed with "Houston, we
have a problem over at (insert plant location)" LOL...


Jon





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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:44:38 +1000, Jon Anderson
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Well, passed my probation with flying colors, so am assured a permanent
position long as I want it. Or can handle it... Spent 18 years working
in my garage on mostly small stuff. 57 is getting on a bit to be working
with some of the big heavy stuff in a rendering plant.


Congrats, I think. Do you have a shower at work? I'd think a
rendering plant could be a bit ripe. You described getting into that
one screw machine and my stomach flipped a bit thinking about it.


Though I'd seen them on American Chopper, I never had occasion to use
the thin abrasive slitting disks for small angle grinders. Have come to
love them!


Wonderful, aren't they? I started using them about 30 years ago and
haven't been without one since.


Forget the brand of oxy/acetylene torch, but prefer it over my long
favored Victor. Tips and the cutting attachment seal via o-rings well
before the nut is seated, and they use a fine vee toothed coupling that
prevents the tip or torch from rotating once tightened. Yeah, one should
use a wrench on the Victor torches, but I and everyone I've ever seen,
hand tightens them.


I've never seen a Victor wrench, either.


Never used any of the modern day battery powered tools, but boy, the
latest Milwuakee 18v brushless tools are impressive as hell. About a
grand for a drill, nut driver, grinder, torch (flashlight), 2
batteries/charger, and bag. Be my first big purchase after I get my
stuff here! Prices on tools are an eye opener. At one tool shop, $30 for
a carbide tipped scribe!


I paid $125 for the same setup (plus recip and circular saws) from
Ryobi, but gave $269 for the Makita impact driver, 2 3A LIon batts,
charger and case. The little 1/4" hex drive Makita is powerful enough
to take the lugnuts off my truck, though.


Though metric at two decimal places is not exactly intuitive yet, I find
general fabrication layout in MM is much faster and easier than dealing
with fractions.


I can imagine.


Inverter welders, wow. First time I've used them and I am impressed.
Would still like to have a Syncrowave 350 if I were rich, but around a
grand will get me a nice little welder that will do stick or TIG and run
off a 10 amp outlet. And they run a pretty nice bead for stick welding.


10A 220V, right?


I feared living way out in the sticks, tools and hardware would be hard
to come by. Well, not a great selection at the local hardware store, but
finding several suppliers that can get stuff here in a day or two. They
won't sell to individuals, but not hard to get an ABN (Australian
Business Number), required to do business with them. No sources equal to
McMaster or MSC yet. Gotta be someone here selling decent selections of
real machining supplies and tools but haven't found them. Not a big deal
right now, not much real machining going on, but when I finally get my
shop back together...


Best of luck with that. The shipping fees to and from Oz are beyond
ghastly, as I'm sure you already know. It can easily triple the price
of small items.


Have been more readily accepted than most places I worked in the States.
There's a lot of trash talk, all in good fun, but the place is
remarkably free of the egos and ****ing contests of jobs past. I'm the
old phart in the shop, but get along with the 18 year old apprentices as
well as the guys nearer my age.
Have long heard about Australians believing in "a fair go", and it's
true. My inevitable mistakes and oversights have been taken in stride as
part of my learning curve. They know I come from a different world, and
even someone with experience in the industry would take months to come
up to speed with this particular setup.


That's great to hear, Jon. Most Aussies I've met have a playful,
caustic wit (much like mine), and we get along great.


Maintenance all carry radios. My boss's name is John, and there was a
lot of confusion at first over which Jon/John was being called. So I
start hearing Yank, Yankee Jon, American Jon, etc, all confusing as
heck. Tried getting them to settle on Yank, with mixed results. Now,
right after I started a couple guys left. So I ended up with a radio
marked Houston. After a while I asked one of the guys which departed was
Houston. He laughed and said one of the outgoing had tagged me with
Houston (maybe having a very limited knowledge of US geography...)
Well, that has become my call sign. Am often hailed with "Houston, we
have a problem over at (insert plant location)" LOL...


Hoboy! Start calling your boss Oz or Wizard, wot?

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On 9/16/2014 10:04 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Congrats, I think. Do you have a shower at work? I'd think a
rendering plant could be a bit ripe. You described getting into that
one screw machine and my stomach flipped a bit thinking about it.


Well we had that screw pulled and rebuilt properly, it should run for a
few years trouble free. Have been ankle deep in tallow, and am making a
habit of applying skin protector couple times a day. No showers, but we
generally don't get -that- dirty very often. The guys that run the
rendering plant however...
But I come home, head straight to the bathroom, strip and shower. My
clothes go in a storage tub that has several scented car thingies. Only
after I'm clean and in civvies will my wife get close. And that's in
winter... I have a less than great sense of smell, lucky for me, but
she's very sensitive to odors. But boy, there's really not much in the
way of steady good paying work in town, so just thank my lucky stars I
got this job.

I paid $125 for the same setup (plus recip and circular saws) from
Ryobi, but gave $269 for the Makita impact driver, 2 3A LIon batts,
charger and case. The little 1/4" hex drive Makita is powerful enough
to take the lugnuts off my truck, though.


Hitachi and Makita are big here, and DeWalt is considered very good. But
the new Milwuakee brushless tech is a step above. My first and last
experience with battery drills and such was one of the first drills
Sears sold. Drill half a dozen 1/4" holess, then wait an hour or two for
the battery to recharge. Maybe not quite that bad, but really useful for
only a few holes.

10A 220V, right?


Yeah, everything's 220 and up. Most hardwired motors are 415. I don't
mess with that stuff!

Best of luck with that. The shipping fees to and from Oz are beyond
ghastly, as I'm sure you already know. It can easily triple the price
of small items.


Yeah, had to move here, was costing too much to ship Christmas
presents... lol. Finding local sources is an ongoing effort.
We're coming back to visit next May. Going to come over light as we can,
and head back at max weight on the luggage. I'll have some stuff from
MSC waiting for me at my folks to take back. And they're shipping a Care
Package every few months.

Hoboy! Start calling your boss Oz or Wizard, wot?


Don't think so... he's a great guy, but don't have a handle on his sense
of humor yet...


Jon
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I paid $125 for the same setup (plus recip and circular saws) from
Ryobi, but gave $269 for the Makita impact driver, 2 3A LIon batts,
charger and case. The little 1/4" hex drive Makita is powerful enough
to take the lugnuts off my truck, though.


Hitachi and Makita are big here, and DeWalt is considered very good. But
the new Milwuakee brushless tech is a step above. My first and last
experience with battery drills and such was one of the first drills
Sears sold. Drill half a dozen 1/4" holess, then wait an hour or two for
the battery to recharge. Maybe not quite that bad, but really useful for
only a few holes.


I helped crate a Bridgeport last Friday for shipment ...using a
Milwaukee cordless driver, Lithium Ion. I was exceptionally suprised
when I started driving 3" screws that it has what sounds like an
Impact function..it kept going takatatakata....not fast...but was even
more suprised when I drove nearly 200!!! of those screws on a single
battery. Little battery is about the size of 2 35mm film cans on top
of each other, (charges in 30 minutes) and simply ran screw after
screw after screw until it simply stopped. Stuck in another
battery..back to putting in the last couple screws. Has a charge
indicator just above the trigger..4 LEDs that show your state of
charge and when it goes out..it stops. Little gun, doesnt weigh
nearly as much as my old Makita and lasts about 1000% longer. No
****..good stuff Maynard!! Didnt strip a single phillips head
either..another amazing thing and I fabbed it up out of green 4x4s and
dried hard as a rock 2x4s. Truely amazed!! And Im an old hand with
cordless.

When I asked Leigh how much it costs..he says about $100 new with a
charger and 2 batteries. Gotta get one!!



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On 9/16/2014 10:04 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Congrats, I think. Do you have a shower at work? I'd think a
rendering plant could be a bit ripe. You described getting into that
one screw machine and my stomach flipped a bit thinking about it.


Well we had that screw pulled and rebuilt properly, it should run for a
few years trouble free. Have been ankle deep in tallow, and am making a
habit of applying skin protector couple times a day. No showers, but we
generally don't get -that- dirty very often. The guys that run the
rendering plant however...
But I come home, head straight to the bathroom, strip and shower. My
clothes go in a storage tub that has several scented car thingies. Only
after I'm clean and in civvies will my wife get close. And that's in
winter... I have a less than great sense of smell, lucky for me, but
she's very sensitive to odors. But boy, there's really not much in the
way of steady good paying work in town, so just thank my lucky stars I
got this job.


What are their names? (The lucky stars.)


I paid $125 for the same setup (plus recip and circular saws) from
Ryobi, but gave $269 for the Makita impact driver, 2 3A LIon batts,
charger and case. The little 1/4" hex drive Makita is powerful enough
to take the lugnuts off my truck, though.


Hitachi and Makita are big here, and DeWalt is considered very good. But
the new Milwuakee brushless tech is a step above. My first and last
experience with battery drills and such was one of the first drills
Sears sold. Drill half a dozen 1/4" holess, then wait an hour or two for
the battery to recharge. Maybe not quite that bad, but really useful for
only a few holes.


Yeah, my first experience with an impactor was similar. I saw the
Bosch 14.4v at a trade show and snatched one up. It was superb! Maybe
3-4 years later, the lithiums came out and the price came down some,
so I got the 18v Makita. I figured I could either spend half that for
new batteries, or get the lighter-weight, better-batteried Makita.
Besides, it's a business writeoff. Ditto the paint sprayer and
pressure washer.


10A 220V, right?


Yeah, everything's 220 and up. Most hardwired motors are 415. I don't
mess with that stuff!


Yeah, that stuff will either blow arms off or blind you when tiny
mistakes are made.


Best of luck with that. The shipping fees to and from Oz are beyond
ghastly, as I'm sure you already know. It can easily triple the price
of small items.


Yeah, had to move here, was costing too much to ship Christmas
presents... lol. Finding local sources is an ongoing effort.


GoogleOz is your friend?


We're coming back to visit next May. Going to come over light as we can,
and head back at max weight on the luggage. I'll have some stuff from
MSC waiting for me at my folks to take back. And they're shipping a Care
Package every few months.


That's an expensive proposition. Isn't shipping via the container
considerably cheaper? Catch an empty Chinese container ship on the
way back to China to fill back up?


Hoboy! Start calling your boss Oz or Wizard, wot?


Don't think so... he's a great guy, but don't have a handle on his sense
of humor yet...


Jon


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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:16:26 -0700, Larry Jaques
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Yeah, had to move here, was costing too much to ship Christmas
presents... lol. Finding local sources is an ongoing effort.


GoogleOz is your friend?



http://www.ebay.com.au/


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On 16-Sep-14 6:44 PM, Jon Anderson wrote:
No sources equal to
McMaster or MSC yet.


Have you found Blackwoods yet?

http://www.blackwoods.com.au/


No where as good as what McMaster or MSC appear to offer but perhaps
better than nothing.

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On 9/17/2014 7:23 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

http://www.ebay.com.au/


Beem there, done that. Have my address here and my folks address there
as valid ship to addresses. But spend a bit of time on ebay.au looking
at tools. Not the best selection would be charitable compared to the
cornucopia of stuff available on the US ebay. Much of it is import, and
most of it is fairly expensive. I did however manage to bag a current
TAFE book for the Fitter/Turner classes. It duplicates a lot of info I
have in other books, but covers areas relevant to my current work that
is not covered in anything in my library. Which is 7000 miles away...

I've heard Amazon.uk shipping to AU often beats shipping from US, have
to look into that. I knew what I was getting in to when I moved here,
it's just the price I pay for good healthy (albeit expensive) food,
clean air and beautiful countryside.

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Have you found Blackwoods yet?

http://www.blackwoods.com.au/


No where as good as what McMaster or MSC appear to offer but perhaps
better than nothing.


Yeah, it's who we use at work for most stuff. They have a lot more
online than in the catalog. Nowhere near as comprehensive as MSC in
strictly machining supplies, but a lot more in general industry. More of
a cross between MSC and McMaster, with things neither carries, but
lacking in other areas.
I can order through work and and pay via payroll deductions.

Jon


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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:58:26 +1000, Jon Anderson
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On 9/17/2014 7:23 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

http://www.ebay.com.au/


Beem there, done that. Have my address here and my folks address there
as valid ship to addresses. But spend a bit of time on ebay.au looking
at tools. Not the best selection would be charitable compared to the
cornucopia of stuff available on the US ebay. Much of it is import, and
most of it is fairly expensive. I did however manage to bag a current
TAFE book for the Fitter/Turner classes. It duplicates a lot of info I
have in other books, but covers areas relevant to my current work that
is not covered in anything in my library. Which is 7000 miles away...

I've heard Amazon.uk shipping to AU often beats shipping from US, have
to look into that. I knew what I was getting in to when I moved here,
it's just the price I pay for good healthy (albeit expensive) food,
clean air and beautiful countryside.

Jon


Indeed. Ive purchased a goodly number of things from the Ebay.uk site
as well. Particularly Royal Enfield motorcycle parts and Whitworth
tools and fasteners

Gunner

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On 9/17/2014 10:53 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Indeed. Ive purchased a goodly number of things from the Ebay.uk site
as well. Particularly Royal Enfield motorcycle parts and Whitworth
tools and fasteners


Have to be careful around work with fasteners. Lot of stuff came from
the US and is Imperial, lot of metric of course, and the odd Whitworth
thrown in just to keep me on my toes. And sometimes all three on one
machine/system....

There's a guy in town into vintage bikes, I -think-, Royal Enfield.
Prices for parts are not cheap here and shipping is horrible for heavy
items, but the exchange rate is turning favorable for US. I'll ask if
he's got a line on Royal Enfield parts, see if I can get you a contact
or three.


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On 9/17/2014 3:03 AM, Jon Anderson wrote:
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I can order through work and and pay via payroll deductions.


That's convenient! Is it also cheaper? I.e., do you get your
employer's price and is it better than what an individual would pay?

Bob

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Regarding the cost of machine tools & shipping: Oz is closer to China
than the US is, you'd think that tools would be cheaper. Or is it
tariffs that drive the price up?

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On 9/18/2014 10:55 AM, Bob Engelhardt wrote:

On your first question, if I order at work, whether directly with the
distributor or through a payroll deduction purchase, most suppliers
grant a discount. This can range up to 25%, maybe more. And tradies here
wear hi-vis shirts, usually either bright orange or yellow. Sometimes
buying personal tools at tool shops, wearing my hi-vis, I'm offered a
tradie discount, usually 5-10%.

Regarding the cost of machine tools & shipping: Oz is closer to China
than the US is, you'd think that tools would be cheaper. Or is it
tariffs that drive the price up?


Couldn't say for sure. Been so long since I bought new tools, I'm a bit
out of touch with new US prices.
One thing that makes things look a bit more expensive is GST, which is a
sales tax really, and is figured into the price. So sticker price is
register price. Labor is more expensive, and that has to factor in.
Then there's the fact that Australia is near the same size as the
continental USA with a population smaller than California's (legal)
population. Economies of scale in distribution have to play a part.

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It seems you might have a business opportunity there building and
selling anti-beheading neck armor...


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On 18-Sep-14 10:32 PM, Pete C. wrote:


It seems you might have a business opportunity there building and
selling anti-beheading neck armor...



Better still some means of getting in first as it seems our politicians
are only interested in fostering "multiculturalism".

We even had Muslims protesting in Sydney about the police raids saying
they were being targeted and discriminated against!

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On 18-Sep-14 10:32 PM, Pete C. wrote:


It seems you might have a business opportunity there building and
selling anti-beheading neck armor...


Better still some means of getting in first as it seems our politicians
are only interested in fostering "multiculturalism".

We even had Muslims protesting in Sydney about the police raids saying
they were being targeted and discriminated against!


Multiculturalism never works anywhere. Multi racial, multiethnic, but
not multicultural.
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:49:00 +0800, Stoob wrote:

On 18-Sep-14 10:32 PM, Pete C. wrote:


It seems you might have a business opportunity there building and
selling anti-beheading neck armor...



Better still some means of getting in first as it seems our politicians
are only interested in fostering "multiculturalism".


Ours, too, at the cost of our very country, it seems. Bleedin'
fidiots.


We even had Muslims protesting in Sydney about the police raids saying
they were being targeted and discriminated against!


To which I say: Go live in an Islamic country, then. Line up for the
ship. We're giving free rides!

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Stoob wrote:

On 18-Sep-14 10:32 PM, Pete C. wrote:


It seems you might have a business opportunity there building and
selling anti-beheading neck armor...


Better still some means of getting in first as it seems our politicians
are only interested in fostering "multiculturalism".

We even had Muslims protesting in Sydney about the police raids saying
they were being targeted and discriminated against!


Multiculturalism never works anywhere. Multi racial, multiethnic, but
not multicultural.


Right. Nothing but "melting pot" works at all.

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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:12:42 +1000, Jon Anderson
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On 9/17/2014 10:53 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Indeed. Ive purchased a goodly number of things from the Ebay.uk site
as well. Particularly Royal Enfield motorcycle parts and Whitworth
tools and fasteners


Have to be careful around work with fasteners. Lot of stuff came from
the US and is Imperial, lot of metric of course, and the odd Whitworth
thrown in just to keep me on my toes. And sometimes all three on one
machine/system....

There's a guy in town into vintage bikes, I -think-, Royal Enfield.
Prices for parts are not cheap here and shipping is horrible for heavy
items, but the exchange rate is turning favorable for US. I'll ask if
he's got a line on Royal Enfield parts, see if I can get you a contact
or three.


Jon


That would be Greatly! Appreciated.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...anRoyalEnfield

Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet


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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:26:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:12:42 +1000, Jon Anderson
wrote:

On 9/17/2014 10:53 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Indeed. Ive purchased a goodly number of things from the Ebay.uk site
as well. Particularly Royal Enfield motorcycle parts and Whitworth
tools and fasteners


Have to be careful around work with fasteners. Lot of stuff came from
the US and is Imperial, lot of metric of course, and the odd Whitworth
thrown in just to keep me on my toes. And sometimes all three on one
machine/system....

There's a guy in town into vintage bikes, I -think-, Royal Enfield.
Prices for parts are not cheap here and shipping is horrible for heavy
items, but the exchange rate is turning favorable for US. I'll ask if
he's got a line on Royal Enfield parts, see if I can get you a contact
or three.


Jon


That would be Greatly! Appreciated.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...anRoyalEnfield


OMG, did you see the size of the rat in that first picture?


Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet


A little dusting, a bath, and some armor all for the seat and she'll
be back on the road, eh?

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miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
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On 9/21/2014 3:26 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet


Well that's an interesting setup! I'd focus on this rig first, much
closer to being a finished project. Had thought about a sidecar rig here
for my wife and I. Her one word response: Kangaroos....


Jon

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:26:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:12:42 +1000, Jon Anderson
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On 9/17/2014 10:53 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Indeed. Ive purchased a goodly number of things from the Ebay.uk site
as well. Particularly Royal Enfield motorcycle parts and Whitworth
tools and fasteners

Have to be careful around work with fasteners. Lot of stuff came from
the US and is Imperial, lot of metric of course, and the odd Whitworth
thrown in just to keep me on my toes. And sometimes all three on one
machine/system....

There's a guy in town into vintage bikes, I -think-, Royal Enfield.
Prices for parts are not cheap here and shipping is horrible for heavy
items, but the exchange rate is turning favorable for US. I'll ask if
he's got a line on Royal Enfield parts, see if I can get you a contact
or three.


Jon


That would be Greatly! Appreciated.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...anRoyalEnfield


OMG, did you see the size of the rat in that first picture?


Original desert Rat.


Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet


A little dusting, a bath, and some armor all for the seat and she'll
be back on the road, eh?


No idea..the owner has never started it and he bought it 8 yrs ago,



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miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:32:36 +1000, Jon Anderson
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On 9/21/2014 3:26 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet


Well that's an interesting setup! I'd focus on this rig first, much
closer to being a finished project. Had thought about a sidecar rig here
for my wife and I. Her one word response: Kangaroos....


Jon


Roos like riding in sidehacks???????


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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On 20-Sep-14 12:18 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:49:00 +0800, Stoob wrote:

On 18-Sep-14 10:32 PM, Pete C. wrote:


It seems you might have a business opportunity there building and
selling anti-beheading neck armor...



Better still some means of getting in first as it seems our politicians
are only interested in fostering "multiculturalism".


Ours, too, at the cost of our very country, it seems. Bleedin'
fidiots.


We even had Muslims protesting in Sydney about the police raids saying
they were being targeted and discriminated against!


To which I say: Go live in an Islamic country, then. Line up for the
ship. We're giving free rides!

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:32:36 +1000, Jon Anderson
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On 9/21/2014 3:26 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet


Well that's an interesting setup! I'd focus on this rig first, much
closer to being a finished project. Had thought about a sidecar rig here
for my wife and I. Her one word response: Kangaroos....


Jon


Roos like riding in sidehacks???????


They probably like standing in the road... Around here it's Whitetail
Deer. The local Road Commissions make sure to keep the shoulders
mowed so they are perfect for grazing...

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 15:13:26 -0400, Leon Fisk
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 04:25:54 -0700
Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:32:36 +1000, Jon Anderson
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On 9/21/2014 3:26 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet

Well that's an interesting setup! I'd focus on this rig first, much
closer to being a finished project. Had thought about a sidecar rig here
for my wife and I. Her one word response: Kangaroos....


Jon


Roos like riding in sidehacks???????


They probably like standing in the road... Around here it's Whitetail
Deer. The local Road Commissions make sure to keep the shoulders
mowed so they are perfect for grazing...


I grew up in Michigan and replaced more than a few windshields, hoods,
side windows and doors and one entire front seat when the buck came
though the glass and exploded beside me in the passenger seat. Picture
something from a Hitchcock movie ...guy at the car wash...hosing out
the front seat while the water running out into the drain was pure
blood and little pieces of flesh.

In many places back there..road kill is X per mile..sometimes as many
as 5-7 per mile during certain times of the year....

Ive had more than 5-6 run smack dab into the side of my vehicle at
full tilt, busting out the door glass and denting the **** out of the
doors, with little apparent damage to the deer.

Out here in Central California, we only run into coyotes (with the
vary rare cow or horse) and Ive posted about hitting coyotes with my
BMW motorcycle...bits and pieces becoming baked onto the opposing
cylinders. And bits hanging off me....

Hitting a full sized roo with a bike, let alone one with a
sidehack..is more than I wish to experience. Hitting a range cow
with a water truck outside of Ely Nevada was more than enough,,,,,

Gunner

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:32:36 +1000, Jon Anderson
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On 9/21/2014 3:26 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Ill be taking delivery of this little critter (finally!) in a month or
two.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...802602/Trumpet


Well that's an interesting setup! I'd focus on this rig first, much
closer to being a finished project. Had thought about a sidecar rig here
for my wife and I. Her one word response: Kangaroos....


Jon


Roos like riding in sidehacks???????


No, they think they're deer...or wild spare tires.

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Roos like riding in sidehacks???????



Hitting a roo in a car is bad news. Hitting one on a bike is even worse.
If a roo were centerpunched by the sidecar, it would almost certainly
be fatal for the passenger.

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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:47:42 +1000, Jon Anderson
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I paid $125 for the same setup (plus recip and circular saws) from
Ryobi, but gave $269 for the Makita impact driver, 2 3A LIon batts,
charger and case. The little 1/4" hex drive Makita is powerful enough
to take the lugnuts off my truck, though.


Hitachi and Makita are big here, and DeWalt is considered very good. But
the new Milwuakee brushless tech is a step above. My first and last
experience with battery drills and such was one of the first drills
Sears sold. Drill half a dozen 1/4" holess, then wait an hour or two for
the battery to recharge. Maybe not quite that bad, but really useful for
only a few holes.


I helped crate a Bridgeport last Friday for shipment ...using a
Milwaukee cordless driver, Lithium Ion. I was exceptionally suprised
when I started driving 3" screws that it has what sounds like an
Impact function..it kept going takatatakata....not fast...but was even
more suprised when I drove nearly 200!!! of those screws on a single
battery. Little battery is about the size of 2 35mm film cans on top
of each other, (charges in 30 minutes) and simply ran screw after
screw after screw until it simply stopped. Stuck in another
battery..back to putting in the last couple screws. Has a charge
indicator just above the trigger..4 LEDs that show your state of
charge and when it goes out..it stops. Little gun, doesnt weigh
nearly as much as my old Makita and lasts about 1000% longer. No
****..good stuff Maynard!! Didnt strip a single phillips head
either..another amazing thing and I fabbed it up out of green 4x4s and
dried hard as a rock 2x4s. Truely amazed!! And Im an old hand with
cordless.

When I asked Leigh how much it costs..he says about $100 new with a
charger and 2 batteries. Gotta get one!!



The first cordless drill I used was in the mid '60s. It had a
separate battery box with a 12V gel cell. A TV shop used it to install
TV antennas.

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