I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

Xisico B-50 or B-51. Pitch the stock shroud and install an RWS shroud.
Your neighbors might even ask you to shoot squirrels in their yard as well.

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:11:54 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

Xisico B-50 or B-51. Pitch the stock shroud and install an RWS shroud.
Your neighbors might even ask you to shoot squirrels in their yard as well.

I'd love to, but that would land me in jail here in NJ.

I used to shoot pigeons here with my neighbors' encouragement and my
Crossman CO2 converter on my 1911 .45, but those neighbors are long
gone.

I do have a big Havahart trap, which may be my answer. But next year
I'm cutting back a border growth of little maples, which they jumped
from, and I'm installing a big cat/squirrel collar on the tree.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:11:54 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
. ..
I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

Xisico B-50 or B-51. Pitch the stock shroud and install an RWS shroud.
Your neighbors might even ask you to shoot squirrels in their yard as
well.

I'd love to, but that would land me in jail here in NJ.

I used to shoot pigeons here with my neighbors' encouragement and my
Crossman CO2 converter on my 1911 .45, but those neighbors are long
gone.

I do have a big Havahart trap, which may be my answer. But next year
I'm cutting back a border growth of little maples, which they jumped
from, and I'm installing a big cat/squirrel collar on the tree.


Worse, I think NJ has even outlawed suppressed air guns in spite of the fact
that the ATF got their ass handed to them in court when Cocker appealed.

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:11:54 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

Xisico B-50 or B-51. Pitch the stock shroud and install an RWS shroud.
Your neighbors might even ask you to shoot squirrels in their yard as
well.

I'd love to, but that would land me in jail here in NJ.

I used to shoot pigeons here with my neighbors' encouragement and my
Crossman CO2 converter on my 1911 .45, but those neighbors are long
gone.

I do have a big Havahart trap, which may be my answer. But next year
I'm cutting back a border growth of little maples, which they jumped
from, and I'm installing a big cat/squirrel collar on the tree.


Worse, I think NJ has even outlawed suppressed air guns in spite of the
fact that the ATF got their ass handed to them in court when Cocker
appealed.

I meant Crooker.

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe

I have A LOT of venison recipies

Karl

You have my sympathies. I had the EXACT same thing happen (dwarf peach,
1st year of fruit wiped out over night). It was quite the "WTF?"
moment, walking up to the bare tree.

Since then I've also had to deal with birds and use a net - brought to
the trunk and tied. Squirrels & chipmunks could chew through, but don't.

Bob

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:27:54 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

You have my sympathies. I had the EXACT same thing happen (dwarf peach,
1st year of fruit wiped out over night). It was quite the "WTF?"
moment, walking up to the bare tree.

Since then I've also had to deal with birds and use a net - brought to
the trunk and tied. Squirrels & chipmunks could chew through, but don't.

Bob

AHA! I've heard about those nets. I'll have to look into getting one.
Thanks for the tip.

--
Ed Huntress

On 9/15/2014 6:34 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
suppressed air guns ???

suppressed air guns ???

Yep. Lots of the higher power ones are made that way. The hammer is louder
on my 900FPS NP (with lead / over 1200FPS with alloy) than the noise out of
the barrel, and the sound of a pellet hitting a gopher is louder than that.
My neighbors don't even know when I am target practicing with it unless they
see me.

Even some of the bigger bore PCPs are suppressed.

Most call it a shroud, but if it's a chamber with vents from the muzzle it
suppresses. Some are better than others. Lots of Xisico owners modify one
off an RWS because it works better.

Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:11:54 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

Xisico B-50 or B-51. Pitch the stock shroud and install an RWS shroud.
Your neighbors might even ask you to shoot squirrels in their yard as well.

I'd love to, but that would land me in jail here in NJ.

I used to shoot pigeons here with my neighbors' encouragement and my
Crossman CO2 converter on my 1911 .45, but those neighbors are long
gone.

I do have a big Havahart trap, which may be my answer. But next year
I'm cutting back a border growth of little maples, which they jumped
from, and I'm installing a big cat/squirrel collar on the tree.



Ed,

With your recipe you can turn that trap into a haveameal trap

John

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

The damned horses in the back lot got all my grapes from the back
vine. Then I found some on the side vine and the damned birds got 99%
of those before me. I'm about to go nuclear here.


Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe

I have A LOT of venison recipies

I don't hunt (yet), but I love nice, gamy venison. Yum! Tried some
raindeer from a restaurant and it tasted like cheap hamburger. Just
horrible. Only _then_ did they tell me it was farm-raised, the
bastids. Never again! Purina Deer Chow my ASS!@

--
Resolve to be thyself: and know, that he who finds himself, loses his misery.
-- Matthew Arnold

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 21:58:18 -0400, John
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:11:54 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

Xisico B-50 or B-51. Pitch the stock shroud and install an RWS shroud.
Your neighbors might even ask you to shoot squirrels in their yard as well.

I'd love to, but that would land me in jail here in NJ.

I used to shoot pigeons here with my neighbors' encouragement and my
Crossman CO2 converter on my 1911 .45, but those neighbors are long
gone.

I do have a big Havahart trap, which may be my answer. But next year
I'm cutting back a border growth of little maples, which they jumped
from, and I'm installing a big cat/squirrel collar on the tree.



Ed,

With your recipe you can turn that trap into a haveameal trap

John

Ha! Yes, I was thinking about that...

--
Ed Huntress

On 9/15/2014 6:50 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer trouble

I have A LOT of venison recipes

Karl


I recently trapped 4 raccoon in 5 days, still trying to get more.
The squirrels know exactly when fruit gets ripe, your watching it, it's
almost ready and then those %#$&^*% got almost the whole tree.

Mikek

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:34:06 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:11:54 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

My means of getting revenge are few in this densely packed suburban
neighborhood, so I thought I'd do the next best thing and publish my
all-time favorite squirrel recipe, in the hope that some of you will
shoot some of the *******s and try it. Squirrel season is in, in many
states around the country.

From _The Gourmet Cookbook, Volume II_, revised 1965:

=========================================
Squirrels in Cider

Skin, clean, and disjoint 3 plump squirrels. Soak the pieces in cold
salted water for 20 minutes, wipe them dry, and dust them with flour
seasoned with salt and pepper. In a heavy skillet brown i/4 cup diced
fat ham. Add the squirrel and brown the pieces well on all sides in
the ham fat. Add enough hard cider barely to cover the squirrel, cover
the skillet, and simmer the liquid until most of it has evaporated and
the meat is tender.

Add 2 tablespoons butter, increase the heat, and quickly brown the
pieces of meat once more. Remove the squirrel to a warm serving
platter and to the juices remaining in skillet add I cup hot cream and
stir in all the brown bits from the bottom and sides of the pan. Stir
in, bit by bit, 1/2 tablespoon flour mixed to a paste with 1
tablespoon butter, correct the seasoning with salt and pepper, and
strain the sauce into a gravy boat

[If you like this one, and I love it, I have several more recipes that
are top-notch. Eat mo' squirrel!]

--
Ed Huntress

Xisico B-50 or B-51. Pitch the stock shroud and install an RWS shroud.
Your neighbors might even ask you to shoot squirrels in their yard as
well.

I'd love to, but that would land me in jail here in NJ.

I used to shoot pigeons here with my neighbors' encouragement and my
Crossman CO2 converter on my 1911 .45, but those neighbors are long
gone.

I do have a big Havahart trap, which may be my answer. But next year
I'm cutting back a border growth of little maples, which they jumped
from, and I'm installing a big cat/squirrel collar on the tree.


Worse, I think NJ has even outlawed suppressed air guns in spite of the fact
that the ATF got their ass handed to them in court when Cocker appealed.

In NJ, an air gun is treated like any other gun. And no suppressors
are allowed. They're treated as our state equivalent of Title II
weapons.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe

I have A LOT of venison recipies

Karl

Yes, this state has a deer population about as dense as our people
population, but they rarely get into my fenced back yard. A neighbor
down the street, though, watches them take down the apples from his
little tree every year.

My old boss at Wasino in NJ (now Amada Machine Tools, in the Chicago
'burbs) had $23,000 worth of landscaping done to his yard, and the
deer ate all of it within two months. g

--
Ed Huntress

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:33:13 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 9/15/2014 6:50 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful
and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw
that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat
squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.

Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer trouble

I have A LOT of venison recipes

Karl


I recently trapped 4 raccoon in 5 days, still trying to get more.
The squirrels know exactly when fruit gets ripe, your watching it, it's
almost ready and then those %#$&^*% got almost the whole tree.

Mikek

That's exactly what happened here. On Friday, I counted 26 peaches,
and they were within days of being ripe. On Saturday morning, I had 2
peaches.

--
Ed Huntress

On 9/16/2014 7:47 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

In NJ, an air gun is treated like any other gun. And no suppressors
are allowed. They're treated as our state equivalent of Title II
weapons.


You are referring to the suppressor(title II), right.

And you have to register a BB gun???

"Richard" wrote in message
m...
On 9/16/2014 7:47 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

In NJ, an air gun is treated like any other gun. And no suppressors
are allowed. They're treated as our state equivalent of Title II
weapons.


You are referring to the suppressor(title II), right.

And you have to register a BB gun???

To be fair a .25 PCP "BB Gun" can easily drop a deer at 50 yards, and the
larger Sam Yang 9mm, has been used for bigger game in Africa. They make
them upto .50 cal, and a neighbor of mine has been working on air operated
automatic cannon with military applications. (well a couple sections over)

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:24:26 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 9/16/2014 7:47 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

In NJ, an air gun is treated like any other gun. And no suppressors
are allowed. They're treated as our state equivalent of Title II
weapons.


You are referring to the suppressor(title II), right.

And you have to register a BB gun???

We don't have to register any guns, but you need a FOID to buy any gun
including a BB gun. For a handgun, you also need a permit to purchase,
which is de facto registration. That applies to airguns as well.

--
Ed Huntress

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:51:18 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend

wrote:



On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress

wrote:



I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red

Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few

years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful

and delicious little peaches.



I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw

that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat

squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.



Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe



I have A LOT of venison recipies



Karl



Yes, this state has a deer population about as dense as our people

population, but they rarely get into my fenced back yard. A neighbor

down the street, though, watches them take down the apples from his

little tree every year.



My old boss at Wasino in NJ (now Amada Machine Tools, in the Chicago

'burbs) had $23,000 worth of landscaping done to his yard, and the

deer ate all of it within two months. g



--

Ed Huntress

We also have a lot more deer than we used to. Last week, the local nature center had a representative from the state dept of fish game and wildlife (otherwise known as the hunters resident lobby in Trenton) make a presentation to our city council advocating crossbow hunting in the park. An absolutely ludicrous idea considering that the park is surrounded by houses.

One thing that did come up in the ensuing discussion is that the state of NJ has lowered the distance between bow-hunter and "occupied dwelling" to 150 feet. I have pointed out to my councilman that it is approximately 150 feet from my front door to his...

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:51:18 AM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend

wrote:



On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress

wrote:



I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red

Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few

years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26 beautiful

and delicious little peaches.



I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I saw

that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or five fat

squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their mouths.



Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe



I have A LOT of venison recipies



Karl



Yes, this state has a deer population about as dense as our people

population, but they rarely get into my fenced back yard. A neighbor

down the street, though, watches them take down the apples from his

little tree every year.



My old boss at Wasino in NJ (now Amada Machine Tools, in the Chicago

'burbs) had $23,000 worth of landscaping done to his yard, and the

deer ate all of it within two months. g



--

Ed Huntress

We also have a lot more deer than we used to. Last week, the local nature center had a representative from the state dept of fish game and wildlife (otherwise known as the hunters resident lobby in Trenton) make a presentation to our city council advocating crossbow hunting in the park. An absolutely ludicrous idea considering that the park is surrounded by houses.

One thing that did come up in the ensuing discussion is that the state of NJ has lowered the distance between bow-hunter and "occupied dwelling" to 150 feet. I have pointed out to my councilman that it is approximately 150 feet from my front door to his...

It's hard to figure out what to do about it. Princeton Township, which
is pretty small, has 44 deer per square mile. 12 years ago they had
350 car/deer collisions per year.

In the intervening years they've allowed bow hunters, and they hire
some professional hunters, which has reduced the population. But now
it's sprung right back up again.

The problem is, as you suggest, that houses are too close together.
That doesn't bother the deer but it makes hunting nearly impossible in
the suburbs.

--
Ed Huntress

On Monday, September 15, 2014 8:27:54 PM UTC-4, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
You have my sympathies. I had the EXACT same thing happen (dwarf peach,

1st year of fruit wiped out over night). It was quite the "WTF?"

moment, walking up to the bare tree.

Since then I've also had to deal with birds and use a net - brought to

the trunk and tied. Squirrels & chipmunks could chew through, but don't.

Yeah, Mosquito net the tree and give it a squirrel collar and the fruit should be OK.

On 9/16/2014 1:52 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
"Richard" wrote in message
m...
On 9/16/2014 7:47 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

In NJ, an air gun is treated like any other gun. And no suppressors
are allowed. They're treated as our state equivalent of Title II
weapons.


You are referring to the suppressor(title II), right.

And you have to register a BB gun???

To be fair a .25 PCP "BB Gun" can easily drop a deer at 50 yards, and
the larger Sam Yang 9mm, has been used for bigger game in Africa. They
make them upto .50 cal, and a neighbor of mine has been working on air
operated automatic cannon with military applications. (well a couple
sections over)


Ok, that sounds a bit more realistic.
I was thinking "Daisy".

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:53:57 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 9/16/2014 1:52 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
"Richard" wrote in message
m...
On 9/16/2014 7:47 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

In NJ, an air gun is treated like any other gun. And no suppressors
are allowed. They're treated as our state equivalent of Title II
weapons.


You are referring to the suppressor(title II), right.

And you have to register a BB gun???

To be fair a .25 PCP "BB Gun" can easily drop a deer at 50 yards, and
the larger Sam Yang 9mm, has been used for bigger game in Africa. They
make them upto .50 cal, and a neighbor of mine has been working on air
operated automatic cannon with military applications. (well a couple
sections over)


Ok, that sounds a bit more realistic.
I was thinking "Daisy".

If you're still referring to NJ, then yes, you need a FOID to buy a
Daisy BB gun. But there's no registration.

--
Ed Huntress

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap. Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one closed. Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap. Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

--
Ed Huntress

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26
beautiful and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I
saw that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or
five fat squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their
mouths.

The damned horses in the back lot got all my grapes from the back
vine. Then I found some on the side vine and the damned birds got 99%
of those before me. I'm about to go nuclear here.


Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe

I have A LOT of venison recipies

I don't hunt (yet), but I love nice, gamy venison. Yum! Tried some
raindeer from a restaurant and it tasted like cheap hamburger. Just
horrible. Only _then_ did they tell me it was farm-raised, the
bastids. Never again! Purina Deer Chow my ASS!@

My deer stand is all set up , with rotating chair . The corn has been spread
, the camera is mounted on a tree nearby and it's on and snappin' pics . The
straw bales are set up now , and I've been practicing with one of my bows
(35 lb recurve , will move up to the 47 pounder in a few days) . By the time
the bow season opens in 10 days I should be back in form to slaughter a poor
little innocent deer . I hope the first one is that doe that's been eating
my garden and fruit trees . Poetic justice IMO .

--
Snag

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:53:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26
beautiful and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I
saw that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or
five fat squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their
mouths.

The damned horses in the back lot got all my grapes from the back
vine. Then I found some on the side vine and the damned birds got 99%
of those before me. I'm about to go nuclear here.


Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe

I have A LOT of venison recipies

I don't hunt (yet), but I love nice, gamy venison. Yum! Tried some
raindeer from a restaurant and it tasted like cheap hamburger. Just
horrible. Only _then_ did they tell me it was farm-raised, the
bastids. Never again! Purina Deer Chow my ASS!@

My deer stand is all set up , with rotating chair . The corn has been spread
, the camera is mounted on a tree nearby and it's on and snappin' pics . The
straw bales are set up now , and I've been practicing with one of my bows
(35 lb recurve , will move up to the 47 pounder in a few days) . By the time
the bow season opens in 10 days I should be back in form to slaughter a poor
little innocent deer . I hope the first one is that doe that's been eating
my garden and fruit trees . Poetic justice IMO .

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1042882...-illegal-funny

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:49:43 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

Hmm. I don't remember any particular problems with that. I dress them
before skinning, to keep any glorp off of the flesh.

Squirrel skin doesn't peel off as easily as it does with a rabbit.
I've read it's because squirrels don't have the layer of fat that
rabbits have, nut I never saw a layer of fact under the skin of a
rabbit, either. I can skin a rabbit with two hands but I usually make
a string noose for squirrelts, and tie it to my dressing board.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:53:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little
Red Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for
a few years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26
beautiful and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I
saw that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or
five fat squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their
mouths.

The damned horses in the back lot got all my grapes from the back
vine. Then I found some on the side vine and the damned birds got
99% of those before me. I'm about to go nuclear here.


Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe

I have A LOT of venison recipies

I don't hunt (yet), but I love nice, gamy venison. Yum! Tried some
raindeer from a restaurant and it tasted like cheap hamburger. Just
horrible. Only _then_ did they tell me it was farm-raised, the
bastids. Never again! Purina Deer Chow my ASS!@

My deer stand is all set up , with rotating chair . The corn has
been spread , the camera is mounted on a tree nearby and it's on and
snappin' pics . The straw bales are set up now , and I've been
practicing with one of my bows (35 lb recurve , will move up to the
47 pounder in a few days) . By the time the bow season opens in 10
days I should be back in form to slaughter a poor little innocent
deer . I hope the first one is that doe that's been eating my garden
and fruit trees . Poetic justice IMO .

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1042882...-illegal-funny

Cute , and the guy that makes 'em is in Van Buren Ar ... fortunately ,
this is one state that allows baiting for *some* game animals in *some*
places . This is one of those places , and deer are one of those animals
allowed .
I'll be using aluminum arrows with steel broadheads again this year . Hadda
have SOME metal content !
--
Snag

On 9/17/2014 3:50 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:49:43 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

Hmm. I don't remember any particular problems with that. I dress them
before skinning, to keep any glorp off of the flesh.

Squirrel skin doesn't peel off as easily as it does with a rabbit.
I've read it's because squirrels don't have the layer of fat that
rabbits have, nut I never saw a layer of fact under the skin of a
rabbit, either. I can skin a rabbit with two hands but I usually make
a string noose for squirrelts, and tie it to my dressing board.

Skin from feet to head. Here in ET they have hangers for the feet and
pull the skin off.

I think the idea - almost no meat skins easier. Direction makes a
difference. Squirrel hunters here from a young age.

Mom & Dad are gone now but I recall Dad saying Mom shot flying squirrels
while gliding down towards the garden.

She and Dad often went to the arcade to shoot at bottles and such while
courting. Moved to N.C. during WWII making Ship Radar and we bought the
polo club house when they moved further out of town. Nice place.
Moved after the war - and after Dad returned from Europe to the west
coast Radar on B-36's.

Martin

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:34:38 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

On 9/17/2014 3:50 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:49:43 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

Hmm. I don't remember any particular problems with that. I dress them
before skinning, to keep any glorp off of the flesh.

Squirrel skin doesn't peel off as easily as it does with a rabbit.
I've read it's because squirrels don't have the layer of fat that
rabbits have, nut I never saw a layer of fact under the skin of a
rabbit, either. I can skin a rabbit with two hands but I usually make
a string noose for squirrelts, and tie it to my dressing board.

Skin from feet to head. Here in ET they have hangers for the feet and
pull the skin off.

I think the idea - almost no meat skins easier. Direction makes a
difference. Squirrel hunters here from a young age.

Somebody told me that once but I never got the hang of it. I've cased
a lot of muskrats, and I tried doing the squirrels the same way. But
working the skin over the hind legs just didn't work the same. I just
tore the skin.

I'll probably not try it again. We have to hunt squirrels with a
shotgun in NJ (except for a short mid-winter muzzleloading rifle
season). I hate shooting squirrels with a shotgun and I'm not going
out in mid-winter with a rifle just to shoot a couple of them.


Mom & Dad are gone now but I recall Dad saying Mom shot flying squirrels
while gliding down towards the garden.

Now *that* might make it worthwhile to shoot squirrels with a shotgun.
g


She and Dad often went to the arcade to shoot at bottles and such while
courting. Moved to N.C. during WWII making Ship Radar and we bought the
polo club house when they moved further out of town. Nice place.
Moved after the war - and after Dad returned from Europe to the west
coast Radar on B-36's.

Martin

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:53:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:50:22 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:56:35 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

I had an agricultural tragedy this past weekend. I have a little Red
Haven Semi-dwarf peach tree that I've been nursing along for a few
years, and it just produced its first modest peach crop: 26
beautiful and delicious little peaches.

I was getting ready to check them for ripeness on Saturday when I
saw that my 26 peaches had been reduced to 2. There were four or
five fat squirrels running around my yard with peaches in their
mouths.

The damned horses in the back lot got all my grapes from the back
vine. Then I found some on the side vine and the damned birds got 99%
of those before me. I'm about to go nuclear here.


Count your blessings, at least you don't have deer troulbe

I have A LOT of venison recipies

I don't hunt (yet), but I love nice, gamy venison. Yum! Tried some
raindeer from a restaurant and it tasted like cheap hamburger. Just
horrible. Only _then_ did they tell me it was farm-raised, the
bastids. Never again! Purina Deer Chow my ASS!@

My deer stand is all set up , with rotating chair . The corn has been spread
, the camera is mounted on a tree nearby and it's on and snappin' pics . The
straw bales are set up now , and I've been practicing with one of my bows
(35 lb recurve , will move up to the 47 pounder in a few days) . By the time
the bow season opens in 10 days I should be back in form to slaughter a poor
little innocent deer . I hope the first one is that doe that's been eating
my garden and fruit trees . Poetic justice IMO .

Go for it, Snag. I wonder if the fruit sweetens the meat...

I think my niece is giving me the 75# compound bow she found in her
garage, from a late friend of her dad's. If her dad doesn't show up
to give her away in a few weeks, I'll have that honor myself.

Anyway, when the SHTF, I'll be out joining the hunt purty quickly.

--
Resolve to be thyself: and know, that he who finds himself, loses his misery.
-- Matthew Arnold

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:11:14 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:34:38 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

On 9/17/2014 3:50 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:49:43 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

Hmm. I don't remember any particular problems with that. I dress them
before skinning, to keep any glorp off of the flesh.

Squirrel skin doesn't peel off as easily as it does with a rabbit.
I've read it's because squirrels don't have the layer of fat that
rabbits have, nut I never saw a layer of fact under the skin of a
rabbit, either. I can skin a rabbit with two hands but I usually make
a string noose for squirrelts, and tie it to my dressing board.

Skin from feet to head. Here in ET they have hangers for the feet and
pull the skin off.

I think the idea - almost no meat skins easier. Direction makes a
difference. Squirrel hunters here from a young age.

Somebody told me that once but I never got the hang of it. I've cased
a lot of muskrats, and I tried doing the squirrels the same way. But
working the skin over the hind legs just didn't work the same. I just
tore the skin.

I'll probably not try it again. We have to hunt squirrels with a
shotgun in NJ (except for a short mid-winter muzzleloading rifle
season). I hate shooting squirrels with a shotgun and I'm not going
out in mid-winter with a rifle just to shoot a couple of them.


Mom & Dad are gone now but I recall Dad saying Mom shot flying squirrels
while gliding down towards the garden.

Now *that* might make it worthwhile to shoot squirrels with a shotgun.
g


She and Dad often went to the arcade to shoot at bottles and such while
courting. Moved to N.C. during WWII making Ship Radar and we bought the
polo club house when they moved further out of town. Nice place.
Moved after the war - and after Dad returned from Europe to the west
coast Radar on B-36's.

Martin
Friend used to pop them out of trees with a .177 co2 pellet gun by
shooting the tree just under their belly. The flying bark took them
out.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:34:58 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:11:14 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:34:38 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

On 9/17/2014 3:50 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:49:43 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

Hmm. I don't remember any particular problems with that. I dress them
before skinning, to keep any glorp off of the flesh.

Squirrel skin doesn't peel off as easily as it does with a rabbit.
I've read it's because squirrels don't have the layer of fat that
rabbits have, nut I never saw a layer of fact under the skin of a
rabbit, either. I can skin a rabbit with two hands but I usually make
a string noose for squirrelts, and tie it to my dressing board.

Skin from feet to head. Here in ET they have hangers for the feet and
pull the skin off.

I think the idea - almost no meat skins easier. Direction makes a
difference. Squirrel hunters here from a young age.

Somebody told me that once but I never got the hang of it. I've cased
a lot of muskrats, and I tried doing the squirrels the same way. But
working the skin over the hind legs just didn't work the same. I just
tore the skin.

I'll probably not try it again. We have to hunt squirrels with a
shotgun in NJ (except for a short mid-winter muzzleloading rifle
season). I hate shooting squirrels with a shotgun and I'm not going
out in mid-winter with a rifle just to shoot a couple of them.


Mom & Dad are gone now but I recall Dad saying Mom shot flying squirrels
while gliding down towards the garden.

Now *that* might make it worthwhile to shoot squirrels with a shotgun.
g


She and Dad often went to the arcade to shoot at bottles and such while
courting. Moved to N.C. during WWII making Ship Radar and we bought the
polo club house when they moved further out of town. Nice place.
Moved after the war - and after Dad returned from Europe to the west
coast Radar on B-36's.

Martin
Friend used to pop them out of trees with a .177 co2 pellet gun by
shooting the tree just under their belly. The flying bark took them
out.

I asssume that he told you this, and that you're not saying you
actually saw it happen. d8-)

"Barking" squirrels is an old legend. It can be done -- with a
high-powered rifle, but not with a .22 or an air gun.

--
Ed Huntress

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:39:07 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:34:58 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:11:14 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:34:38 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

On 9/17/2014 3:50 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:49:43 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

Hmm. I don't remember any particular problems with that. I dress them
before skinning, to keep any glorp off of the flesh.

Squirrel skin doesn't peel off as easily as it does with a rabbit.
I've read it's because squirrels don't have the layer of fat that
rabbits have, nut I never saw a layer of fact under the skin of a
rabbit, either. I can skin a rabbit with two hands but I usually make
a string noose for squirrelts, and tie it to my dressing board.

Skin from feet to head. Here in ET they have hangers for the feet and
pull the skin off.

I think the idea - almost no meat skins easier. Direction makes a
difference. Squirrel hunters here from a young age.

Somebody told me that once but I never got the hang of it. I've cased
a lot of muskrats, and I tried doing the squirrels the same way. But
working the skin over the hind legs just didn't work the same. I just
tore the skin.

I'll probably not try it again. We have to hunt squirrels with a
shotgun in NJ (except for a short mid-winter muzzleloading rifle
season). I hate shooting squirrels with a shotgun and I'm not going
out in mid-winter with a rifle just to shoot a couple of them.


Mom & Dad are gone now but I recall Dad saying Mom shot flying squirrels
while gliding down towards the garden.

Now *that* might make it worthwhile to shoot squirrels with a shotgun.
g


She and Dad often went to the arcade to shoot at bottles and such while
courting. Moved to N.C. during WWII making Ship Radar and we bought the
polo club house when they moved further out of town. Nice place.
Moved after the war - and after Dad returned from Europe to the west
coast Radar on B-36's.

Martin
Friend used to pop them out of trees with a .177 co2 pellet gun by
shooting the tree just under their belly. The flying bark took them
out.

I asssume that he told you this, and that you're not saying you
actually saw it happen. d8-)

"Barking" squirrels is an old legend. It can be done -- with a
high-powered rifle, but not with a .22 or an air gun.

I actually did it once with a 36 cal. muzzle loading rifle. Just like
all them old fellows used to.... I think the chances of doing it twice
is similar to Robin Hood splitting a competitor's arrow in the target
with his next arrow.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:25:12 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:39:07 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:34:58 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:11:14 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:34:38 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

On 9/17/2014 3:50 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:49:43 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT), Gerry
wrote:

I have trapped hundreds of squirrels using a Hav-a-hart squirrel trap.
Traps probably 8X8X24 and has two doors, although I lock the back one
closed.

I only have one, and it's one of the big ones intended for raccoons.
However, it works fine for squirrels, too.

This summer: One raccoon, two 'possums, two squirrels, and one cat.
g


Peanut butter on toast worked the best for me. Dump the trap in a garbage
can of water, occupant included, then clean for supper.

Aw, I couldn't do that. But I'd shoot 'em or club 'em.

Careful. The anti's take particular exception to clubbing even though you
can kill an animal with a club just as quickly as with a gun.


They're tougher to skin than a rabbit, but I can dress one out and
have him quartered in about three or four minutes.

How is cleaning the pelvic cavity? That always seems to be the toughest
part for me with a rabbit.

Hmm. I don't remember any particular problems with that. I dress them
before skinning, to keep any glorp off of the flesh.

Squirrel skin doesn't peel off as easily as it does with a rabbit.
I've read it's because squirrels don't have the layer of fat that
rabbits have, nut I never saw a layer of fact under the skin of a
rabbit, either. I can skin a rabbit with two hands but I usually make
a string noose for squirrelts, and tie it to my dressing board.

Skin from feet to head. Here in ET they have hangers for the feet and
pull the skin off.

I think the idea - almost no meat skins easier. Direction makes a
difference. Squirrel hunters here from a young age.

Somebody told me that once but I never got the hang of it. I've cased
a lot of muskrats, and I tried doing the squirrels the same way. But
working the skin over the hind legs just didn't work the same. I just
tore the skin.

I'll probably not try it again. We have to hunt squirrels with a
shotgun in NJ (except for a short mid-winter muzzleloading rifle
season). I hate shooting squirrels with a shotgun and I'm not going
out in mid-winter with a rifle just to shoot a couple of them.


Mom & Dad are gone now but I recall Dad saying Mom shot flying squirrels
while gliding down towards the garden.

Now *that* might make it worthwhile to shoot squirrels with a shotgun.
g


She and Dad often went to the arcade to shoot at bottles and such while
courting. Moved to N.C. during WWII making Ship Radar and we bought the
polo club house when they moved further out of town. Nice place.
Moved after the war - and after Dad returned from Europe to the west
coast Radar on B-36's.

Martin
Friend used to pop them out of trees with a .177 co2 pellet gun by
shooting the tree just under their belly. The flying bark took them
out.

I asssume that he told you this, and that you're not saying you
actually saw it happen. d8-)

"Barking" squirrels is an old legend. It can be done -- with a
high-powered rifle, but not with a .22 or an air gun.

I actually did it once with a 36 cal. muzzle loading rifle. Just like
all them old fellows used to.... I think the chances of doing it twice
is similar to Robin Hood splitting a competitor's arrow in the target
with his next arrow.

Yeah. That's one of those things that you should just do once. g

Apparently it grew up around Daniel Boone legands. Decades ago, a
writer for one of the hunting magazines tried it with a variety of
guns, and finally got it to work a couple of times - with a .30/06.

It's a messy way to prune trees.

Speaking of pruning trees, I did some of that when I was in college. I
hunted grouse ("pats") in a Christmas tree stand in northern Michigan.
The pat would take off straight between the rows, and then do a sharp
turn left or right. I'd snap-shoot at the pat, often managing to shoot
the top off of one of the Christmas trees, but rarely hitting the pat.

--
Ed Huntress

"Richard" wrote in message
...
On 9/16/2014 1:52 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
"Richard" wrote in message
m...
On 9/16/2014 7:47 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:

In NJ, an air gun is treated like any other gun. And no suppressors
are allowed. They're treated as our state equivalent of Title II
weapons.


You are referring to the suppressor(title II), right.

And you have to register a BB gun???

To be fair a .25 PCP "BB Gun" can easily drop a deer at 50 yards, and
the larger Sam Yang 9mm, has been used for bigger game in Africa. They
make them upto .50 cal, and a neighbor of mine has been working on air
operated automatic cannon with military applications. (well a couple
sections over)


Ok, that sounds a bit more realistic.
I was thinking "Daisy".

You want to talk about pneumatics.

Lewis and Clark carried an air rifle on their famous journey of discovery.

Pneumatics rifles were used in combat in WWI (although I have not found a
definitive source on that).

In the late 1800s the USS Vesuvius carried pneumatic cannon with a one mile
range, that delivered explosive rounds nearly silently which made for a
tremendous psychological affect compared to conventional cannon. There is a
nice article on Wikipedia about it. One mile was considered to short, but
where it was used it was effective.