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Shaving cream, old and new
I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy)
with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. While this used to work, more recently I noticed that my shaves were not as close as they had been. I had the impression that the blade was skating along the hair without biting at first. Getting a new blade didn't help. Nor did using a Gillette Trac 2 razor. Then it hit me that the Edge is very slippery, maybe too slippery. There has to be an optimum. Now, shaving cream isn't exactly a new technology. In the mid 1980s I had flirted with using old-time mug-and-brush shaving cream, and still had a bar of mug soap from 1986, so I tried it, generating the lather by rubbing the wetted bar in my hands, and applying the lather to may face. No mug or brush needed. This worked very well, and now is my new standard. The mug shaving soap is still made. My wife found it in the local grocery store. Probably cost all of $4.00. ..http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Mug-Shaving-Soap-1-75/dp/B00008X5CH Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 19:57:00 -0400, Joe Gwinn
wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. While this used to work, more recently I noticed that my shaves were not as close as they had been. I had the impression that the blade was skating along the hair without biting at first. Getting a new blade didn't help. Nor did using a Gillette Trac 2 razor. Then it hit me that the Edge is very slippery, maybe too slippery. There has to be an optimum. Now, shaving cream isn't exactly a new technology. In the mid 1980s I had flirted with using old-time mug-and-brush shaving cream, and still had a bar of mug soap from 1986, so I tried it, generating the lather by rubbing the wetted bar in my hands, and applying the lather to may face. No mug or brush needed. This worked very well, and now is my new standard. The mug shaving soap is still made. My wife found it in the local grocery store. Probably cost all of $4.00. .http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Mug-Shaving-Soap-1-75/dp/B00008X5CH Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. That reminds me to toss my straight razor into my BOB... -- Live Simply. Speak Kindly. Care Deeply. Love Generously. -- anon |
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On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. .... The steel content is all those razor blades. .... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... -- |
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In article , dpb wrote:
On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:42:13 -0400, Joe Gwinn
wrote: In article , dpb wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn FWIW, I gave up on Edge a couple of decades ago It's nice and smooth, but it really jams up a 2+ blade razor in a hurry, and the blades don't get close enough for a good shave after that. I'm currently using a cheap, two-blade Gilette "Good News" razor, with Barbasol. I also have a 30-year-old bar of Williams soap that gets used when I'm out of Barasol. And I have two straight razors, which I haven't used since I had a beard, 20 years ago. I've tried two, three, four, and five-blade razors. The more blades they have, the more I like them, even though the four- and five-blade types drag a bit. But they're too damned expensive to make any sense. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:42:13 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article , dpb wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn FWIW, I gave up on Edge a couple of decades ago It's nice and smooth, but it really jams up a 2+ blade razor in a hurry, and the blades don't get close enough for a good shave after that. I'm currently using a cheap, two-blade Gilette "Good News" razor, with Barbasol. I also have a 30-year-old bar of Williams soap that gets used when I'm out of Barasol. And I have two straight razors, which I haven't used since I had a beard, 20 years ago. I've tried two, three, four, and five-blade razors. The more blades they have, the more I like them, even though the four- and five-blade types drag a bit. But they're too damned expensive to make any sense. -- Ed Huntress In one chemistry class the prof told us that bar soap works as well as expensive shaving soap. I tried it, and he was right. Now when the shower soap gets thin and breaks I toss the pieces into the shaving mug. -jsw |
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On 09/15/2014 9:50 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:42:13 -0400, Joe wrote: In , wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn FWIW, I gave up on Edge a couple of decades ago It's nice and smooth, but it really jams up a 2+ blade razor in a hurry, and the blades don't get close enough for a good shave after that. I'm currently using a cheap, two-blade Gilette "Good News" razor, with Barbasol. I also have a 30-year-old bar of Williams soap that gets used when I'm out of Barasol. And I have two straight razors, which I haven't used since I had a beard, 20 years ago. I've tried two, three, four, and five-blade razors. The more blades they have, the more I like them, even though the four- and five-blade types drag a bit. But they're too damned expensive to make any sense. I wasn't able to even find a 2-blade-only alternative locally; everything on the shelves here I could find was 4+ and ridiculously expensive plus so humongously bulky I'd never use it. I also have have difficulty with even the two blades with jamming; likely because much of my beard is roughly the texture and diameter of "bob-wahr" altho it seems to be somewhat less with advancing years...maybe white isn't as tough as brown??? vbg The expense factor is night 'n day...one can find good, used safety razors if don't still have one for $10 and under including shipping and Barbasol from the Dollar General is quite frequently on sale at half of their discount so often it's only 50-cents for the regular can... Noxema is more but if you're sensitive it's a little better from that standpoint ime... -- |
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On 09/15/2014 9:59 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
.... In one chemistry class the prof told us that bar soap works as well as expensive shaving soap. I tried it, and he was right. ... I've also tried it in a pinch and I disagree, violently (and painfully ). At least no variety I've found comes even close to the lubricity. -- |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:59:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:42:13 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article , dpb wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn FWIW, I gave up on Edge a couple of decades ago It's nice and smooth, but it really jams up a 2+ blade razor in a hurry, and the blades don't get close enough for a good shave after that. I'm currently using a cheap, two-blade Gilette "Good News" razor, with Barbasol. I also have a 30-year-old bar of Williams soap that gets used when I'm out of Barasol. And I have two straight razors, which I haven't used since I had a beard, 20 years ago. I've tried two, three, four, and five-blade razors. The more blades they have, the more I like them, even though the four- and five-blade types drag a bit. But they're too damned expensive to make any sense. -- Ed Huntress In one chemistry class the prof told us that bar soap works as well as expensive shaving soap. I tried it, and he was right. Now when the shower soap gets thin and breaks I toss the pieces into the shaving mug. -jsw I use bar soap when I'm travelling. It saves a lump in my bag. But it varies all of the place in terms of lubricity. I nicked the hell out of my neck once upon a time, using a bar I got in a hotel. -- Ed Huntress |
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Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. Karl |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:59:09 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. Karl What are you doing, planning for your "rope" escape in case you're arrested? d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:03:46 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 09/15/2014 9:59 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote: ... In one chemistry class the prof told us that bar soap works as well as expensive shaving soap. I tried it, and he was right. ... I've also tried it in a pinch and I disagree, violently (and painfully ). At least no variety I've found comes even close to the lubricity. REAL men shave with a safety razor and cold water- Shaving creme??? What's that????? Or a good sharp hunting knife. |
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Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. Karl What are you doing, planning for your "rope" escape in case you're arrested? d8-) Well, I haven't been to the barber in 35 years also. d8-) Milady cuts my hair. pretty small job for a totally bald guy. I trim the beard on occasion. |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:04:48 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... ??? I buy a pack of 5-10 double or triple bladed disposable razors from the 99 cent store for a buck. I get about 2 weeks use out of most of those individual razors, then I toss it in the can and get another one out of the package. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On 09/15/2014 1:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
.... I buy a pack of 5-10 double or triple bladed disposable razors from the 99 cent store for a buck. I get about 2 weeks use out of most of those individual razors, then I toss it in the can and get another one out of the package. .... I don't like the chintzy handles/lack of heft and none of the disposables I've tried have lasted more than a couple or three uses...then again, as noted above, the beard isn't nearly as tough as it once't wuz, either, so maybe it would be different now. But, if I'm going to shave, I'm going to like to handle the implement and the disposals just aren't something I like to use. Double-edge Wilkinsons are only about 25-30 cents each and they will last at least a week to ten days, anyway. There's a no-name at the Dollar General that's half that and they're not up to Wilkinson in initial sharpness, but they stay usable for a week but neither is much of an outlay--nothing like even the old 2-blade Schick cartridge that went of of production and order of magnitude difference from most of what is common now... -- |
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... On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:03:46 -0500, dpb wrote: On 09/15/2014 9:59 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote: ... In one chemistry class the prof told us that bar soap works as well as expensive shaving soap. I tried it, and he was right. ... I've also tried it in a pinch and I disagree, violently (and painfully ). At least no variety I've found comes even close to the lubricity. REAL men shave with a safety razor and cold water- Shaving creme??? What's that????? Or a good sharp hunting knife. You don't really need the water. -jsw |
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On 9/15/2014 9:42 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
In article , dpb wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. Years ago I thought my teen daughter was spending to much on fancy shaving cream for her legs, I bought her an 88 cent can of Barbasol. It didn't take. Mikek --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:50:56 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 09/15/2014 1:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: ... I buy a pack of 5-10 double or triple bladed disposable razors from the 99 cent store for a buck. I get about 2 weeks use out of most of those individual razors, then I toss it in the can and get another one out of the package. ... I don't like the chintzy handles/lack of heft and none of the disposables I've tried have lasted more than a couple or three uses...then again, as noted above, the beard isn't nearly as tough as it once't wuz, either, so maybe it would be different now. But, if I'm going to shave, I'm going to like to handle the implement and the disposals just aren't something I like to use. Double-edge Wilkinsons are only about 25-30 cents each and they will last at least a week to ten days, anyway. There's a no-name at the Dollar General that's half that and they're not up to Wilkinson in initial sharpness, but they stay usable for a week but neither is much of an outlay--nothing like even the old 2-blade Schick cartridge that went of of production and order of magnitude difference from most of what is common now... Just remember when you finish using one..flip the water out of it well and then lay it on its back so the sharp edges are UP. Water will slowly corrode the edges if its laid cutting edge down. The ones I like have black handles and green inserts. The first dozen packages of 5 I bought lasted me over 2 yrs. Get about 15 shaves out of each and I only shave 3 times a week..on the road most of the time. Id leave em on the rack in the shower and they would last damned near a month each. The next 2 packages were not nearly as sharp nor lasted as long. The last 3 have done pretty good. 99c store. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Monday, September 15, 2014 11:02:03 AM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 09/15/2014 9:50 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:42:13 -0400, Joe wrote: In , wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn FWIW, I gave up on Edge a couple of decades ago It's nice and smooth, but it really jams up a 2+ blade razor in a hurry, and the blades don't get close enough for a good shave after that. I'm currently using a cheap, two-blade Gilette "Good News" razor, with Barbasol. I also have a 30-year-old bar of Williams soap that gets used when I'm out of Barasol. And I have two straight razors, which I haven't used since I had a beard, 20 years ago. I've tried two, three, four, and five-blade razors. The more blades they have, the more I like them, even though the four- and five-blade types drag a bit. But they're too damned expensive to make any sense. I wasn't able to even find a 2-blade-only alternative locally; everything on the shelves here I could find was 4+ and ridiculously expensive plus so humongously bulky I'd never use it. I also have have difficulty with even the two blades with jamming; likely because much of my beard is roughly the texture and diameter of "bob-wahr" altho it seems to be somewhat less with advancing years...maybe white isn't as tough as brown??? vbg The expense factor is night 'n day...one can find good, used safety razors if don't still have one for $10 and under including shipping and Barbasol from the Dollar General is quite frequently on sale at half of their discount so often it's only 50-cents for the regular can... Yeah, I guess knock-offs are good if you can find them, or maybe its the real thing. I just find plain old warm soap lather the best. I guess you can trust the 99 cent stores after all. |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:55:33 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:50:56 -0500, dpb wrote: On 09/15/2014 1:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: ... I buy a pack of 5-10 double or triple bladed disposable razors from the 99 cent store for a buck. I get about 2 weeks use out of most of those individual razors, then I toss it in the can and get another one out of the package. ... I don't like the chintzy handles/lack of heft and none of the disposables I've tried have lasted more than a couple or three uses...then again, as noted above, the beard isn't nearly as tough as it once't wuz, either, so maybe it would be different now. But, if I'm going to shave, I'm going to like to handle the implement and the disposals just aren't something I like to use. Double-edge Wilkinsons are only about 25-30 cents each and they will last at least a week to ten days, anyway. There's a no-name at the Dollar General that's half that and they're not up to Wilkinson in initial sharpness, but they stay usable for a week but neither is much of an outlay--nothing like even the old 2-blade Schick cartridge that went of of production and order of magnitude difference from most of what is common now... Just remember when you finish using one..flip the water out of it well and then lay it on its back so the sharp edges are UP. Water will slowly corrode the edges if its laid cutting edge down. The ones I like have black handles and green inserts. The first dozen packages of 5 I bought lasted me over 2 yrs. Get about 15 shaves out of each and I only shave 3 times a week..on the road most of the time. Id leave em on the rack in the shower and they would last damned near a month each. The next 2 packages were not nearly as sharp nor lasted as long. The last 3 have done pretty good. 99c store. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke I've found most of the cheap disposables have a nasty "burr" on the edge that scratches like the dickens. I generally use the Phili-Shave "rotary mower" during the week, and a quadra on the weekend. Quadra lasts about 10 shaves, and my beard is TOUGH. |
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On 9/16/2014 1:05 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
I use bar soap when I'm travelling. It saves a lump in my bag. But it varies all of the place in terms of lubricity. I nicked the hell out of my neck once upon a time, using a bar I got in a hotel. Pears bar soap works great. I use a Merkur razor, and at the moment, Persona blades from Amazon. Buying in lots of 100 blades, they are cheap as heck. 100 blades lasts me a long time! Jon |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. Karl You turnin' Amish..... (That is how you can tell from a distance if any of the "plain people" are married. Beard = Married, length of beard gives you an idea of how long) With the women it depends. The locals wear White bonnets for unmarried, Blue/Black for married. -- Steve W. |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:11 -0500, amdx wrote:
On 9/15/2014 9:42 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article , dpb wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. Years ago I thought my teen daughter was spending to much on fancy shaving cream for her legs, I bought her an 88 cent can of Barbasol. It didn't take. Mikek --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com I've been using Wilkinson soap for several years along with Trac II knock off blades. I tried one of the five blade free samples but it felt like I was shaving with a file.I only shave my neck and around my mouth, haven't shaved my jaw line since a hotel fire burned a gap in my razor blade in 1972. --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada |
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On 9/15/2014 11:59 AM, Karl Townsend wrote:
Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. Karl 39 and counting, sometime in the spring of '75 was my last shave. I let the beard get to Gabby Hayes, then trim it back to Yasser Arafat. I've probably passed by half a dozen shaving "revolutions". David |
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On 9/15/2014 2:15 PM, amdx wrote:
Years ago I thought my teen daughter was spending to much on fancy shaving cream for her legs, I bought her an 88 cent can of Barbasol. It didn't take. Mikek Back when I was a teen, my sister borrowed( w/o asking) my double edged razor to shave her legs. When she was done, she cleaned the blade, rewrapped it and put it back in the pack. When I got to that blade, it ripped my cheek up. David |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. I don't see the point in shaving either. It seems like a lot of effort for nothing. |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:03:16 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. Karl What are you doing, planning for your "rope" escape in case you're arrested? d8-) Well, I haven't been to the barber in 35 years also. d8-) Milady cuts my hair. pretty small job for a totally bald guy. I trim the beard on occasion. Bbbut, what about the Brazilians you get? Or is that done with hot wax and cloth strips? wink cringe -- Resolve to be thyself: and know, that he who finds himself, loses his misery. -- Matthew Arnold |
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"Jon Anderson" wrote in message ... On 9/16/2014 1:05 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: I use bar soap when I'm travelling. It saves a lump in my bag. But it varies all of the place in terms of lubricity. I nicked the hell out of my neck once upon a time, using a bar I got in a hotel. Pears bar soap works great. I use a Merkur razor, and at the moment, Persona blades from Amazon. Buying in lots of 100 blades, they are cheap as heck. 100 blades lasts me a long time! Jon Pretty much the same here though I use a wwII vintage instead of a Merkur. used to get one shave per blade till I decided to remove from the razor, wipe dry and to NOT reload till next time, doubt it costs more than a penny a shave now days. |
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On 9/16/2014 3:58 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
Pretty much the same here though I use a wwII vintage instead of a Merkur. used to get one shave per blade till I decided to remove from the razor, wipe dry and to NOT reload till next time, doubt it costs more than a penny a shave now days. Yeah, I too discovered drying the blade makes a big difference in life. I often skip a day or two between shaves, which clogs the mutli blades. The Merkur has no such issues. Haven't kept track, but 100 blades at about $12 lasts me around 2 years. Even now having to pay shipping to Australia, a pack of blades is cheaper than a 4-pack of multi-blades! Jon |
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On 9/16/2014 1:02 AM, dpb wrote:
The expense factor is night 'n day...one can find good, used safety razors if don't still have one for $10 and under including shipping and Barbasol from the Dollar General is quite frequently on sale at half of their discount so often it's only 50-cents for the regular can... Make sure to get a quality razor. I lucked out on my Merkur, it's the neat little traveling model, breaks down and stores in a box about 1.5" square. Cost me $5. Previously used an adjustable Gillette. Prior to that, went through two new ones from Amazon, both made in China, both cut the hell out of me. Almost gave up on safety razors. One day looked down the edge of the blade, and it looked like corrugated tin (well, not quite, but the cutting edges were NOT straight). Given the savings, a new Merkur at $50-60 will still pay off quickly. Jon |
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In article , Ed Huntress
wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:59:57 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:42:13 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article , dpb wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn FWIW, I gave up on Edge a couple of decades ago It's nice and smooth, but it really jams up a 2+ blade razor in a hurry, and the blades don't get close enough for a good shave after that. I'm currently using a cheap, two-blade Gilette "Good News" razor, with Barbasol. I also have a 30-year-old bar of Williams soap that gets used when I'm out of Barasol. And I have two straight razors, which I haven't used since I had a beard, 20 years ago. I've tried two, three, four, and five-blade razors. The more blades they have, the more I like them, even though the four- and five-blade types drag a bit. But they're too damned expensive to make any sense. -- Ed Huntress In one chemistry class the prof told us that bar soap works as well as expensive shaving soap. I tried it, and he was right. Now when the shower soap gets thin and breaks I toss the pieces into the shaving mug. -jsw I use bar soap when I'm travelling. It saves a lump in my bag. But it varies all of the place in terms of lubricity. I nicked the hell out of my neck once upon a time, using a bar I got in a hotel. Bar soap varies as to how much grease it contains. Caswell-Massey Almond soap does work well for shaving, and keeps my skin from drying out and incessantly itching. The secret of mug soap is tallow. Joe Gwinn |
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In article , Jon Anderson
wrote: On 9/16/2014 3:58 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote: Pretty much the same here though I use a wwII vintage instead of a Merkur. used to get one shave per blade till I decided to remove from the razor, wipe dry and to NOT reload till next time, doubt it costs more than a penny a shave now days. Yeah, I too discovered drying the blade makes a big difference in life. I often skip a day or two between shaves, which clogs the mutli blades. The Merkur has no such issues. Haven't kept track, but 100 blades at about $12 lasts me around 2 years. Even now having to pay shipping to Australia, a pack of blades is cheaper than a 4-pack of multi-blades! My discovery is that it's necessary to hot-rinse the shaver and store it edge-up to dry, to prevent both clogging and blunting due to corrosion. Joe Gwinn |
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In article , Ed Huntress
wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:42:13 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article , dpb wrote: On 09/14/2014 6:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. ... The steel content is all those razor blades. ... Schick quit making refill cartridges for the variety (forget the advertising name for it) some time ago and the ridiculously expensive and bulky alternatives now available were totally unpalatable to me so I've reverted to the single blade double-edge safety razor of yore (not _quite_ back to the straight razor started with ). With it and a Wilkinson blade (metal) with either Barbasol or Noxema aerosol foam it's as good as the multi-edge as far as I can tell (or at least care about)... I used to use the Barbasol as well. I should try it again. I do think that the two close-spaced blades razors do work better than the single-blade razors (Trac 2 being the prototype), but I would hazard that the difference between four close blades and five close blades is hard to discern. Maybe the three-blade is noticeably better than two-blade, but I wonder if the difference is worthwhile. Maybe I'll try the Wilkinson razor, if the experiment isn't too expensive. Joe Gwinn FWIW, I gave up on Edge a couple of decades ago It's nice and smooth, but it really jams up a 2+ blade razor in a hurry, and the blades don't get close enough for a good shave after that. I find that it's necessary to hot-rinse the razor and store it edge-up for drying, to prevent dulling due to corrosion. I smack the razor against my palm to get the water out. Some brands and/or models disassemble when I smack them, so I don't use those brands or models. I'm currently using a cheap, two-blade Gilette "Good News" razor, with Barbasol. I also have a 30-year-old bar of Williams soap that gets used when I'm out of Barasol. And I have two straight razors, which I haven't used since I had a beard, 20 years ago. I've tried two, three, four, and five-blade razors. The more blades they have, the more I like them, even though the four- and five-blade types drag a bit. But they're too damned expensive to make any sense. Yes. I'm coming to that conclusion. Joe Gwinn |
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Karl Townsend wrote: Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn Anybody else know nothing about this? I haven't shaved in 35 years. I use hair electric clippers to trim away most of it. Job done. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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On 9/14/2014 7:57 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
I had been shaving using a Schick "Quattro" razor (suggested by Iggy) with Gillette "Edge" shaving cream. While this used to work, more recently I noticed that my shaves were not as close as they had been. I had the impression that the blade was skating along the hair without biting at first. Getting a new blade didn't help. Nor did using a Gillette Trac 2 razor. Then it hit me that the Edge is very slippery, maybe too slippery. There has to be an optimum. Now, shaving cream isn't exactly a new technology. In the mid 1980s I had flirted with using old-time mug-and-brush shaving cream, and still had a bar of mug soap from 1986, so I tried it, generating the lather by rubbing the wetted bar in my hands, and applying the lather to may face. No mug or brush needed. This worked very well, and now is my new standard. The mug shaving soap is still made. My wife found it in the local grocery store. Probably cost all of $4.00. ..http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Mug-Shaving-Soap-1-75/dp/B00008X5CH Brand is Williams, and the product has been in continuous production since 1840. http://www.williamsmugsoap.com The steel content is all those razor blades. Joe Gwinn I've been using VO5 hair conditioner as shaving cream for years. Just 2 drops does the job and a bottle lasts for more than 5 years. |
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On 9/16/2014 12:05 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
Bbbut, what about the Brazilians you get? Or is that done with hot wax and cloth strips? wink cringe Karl uses a Bic lighter! |
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