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One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions,
very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Ignoramus4856 wrote:
One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. Your URL ref. shows $1999.99. What kind of liquidation price are you getting? That will definitely be a determining factor. |
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On 2008-05-20, Al Patrick wrote:
Ignoramus4856 wrote: One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. Your URL ref. shows $1999.99. What kind of liquidation price are you getting? That will definitely be a determining factor. I have no idea what the auction will close for (small factory bankruptcy closedown). Maybe $100 and maybe $1999, most likely somewhere in between. My question is whether it is usable, if so, I will bid a pittance amount in hopes of getting it. Note, this lathe is used, not new. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Quality varies widely, but mine is excellent for it's class. Did some
mods to the shifters, to make them more positive action. The gearing, wiring,relays and control system is very well done (in mine) and works perfectly. Didn't find any casting sand in the gear head. Accuracy is within .001 12" from chuck. The gear head is not particularly noisy. Motor is good, no problems. DR Dweller in the cellar Ignoramus4856 wrote: One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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On 2008-05-20, JR North wrote:
Quality varies widely, but mine is excellent for it's class. Did some mods to the shifters, to make them more positive action. The gearing, wiring,relays and control system is very well done (in mine) and works perfectly. Didn't find any casting sand in the gear head. Accuracy is within .001 12" from chuck. The gear head is not particularly noisy. Motor is good, no problems. OK, cool. I do not need some extreme power, etc, but it would be good if it basically worked and could thread, etc and was giving me accuracy that I am capable of. (which is not much) I will bid a small amount. I like the fact that it is light and can be easily moved. i Dweller in the cellar Ignoramus4856 wrote: One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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I would be good to know how much tooling comes with it.
A friend has "a similar" one and it has worked out well for him. I don't know what a "pitance" means to you, but it's hard to believe that it would go for less than $1000 if it's in good shape and has the tooling that it was sold with. If it doesn't have the tooling, it would be pretty expensive to replace: 3 jaw chuck 4 jaw chuck Steady rest Follow rest tool holder wrenches etc.. Pete Stanaitis ----------------- Ignoramus4856 wrote: One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. |
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On 2008-05-21, spaco wrote:
I would be good to know how much tooling comes with it. A friend has "a similar" one and it has worked out well for him. I don't know what a "pitance" means to you, but it's hard to believe that it would go for less than $1000 if it's in good shape and has the tooling that it was sold with. If it doesn't have the tooling, it would be pretty expensive to replace: 3 jaw chuck 4 jaw chuck Steady rest Follow rest tool holder wrenches etc.. I was thinking to bid $150 or so. Who knows, it might just work. i Pete Stanaitis Ignoramus4856 wrote: One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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"Ignoramus4856" wrote in message ... On 2008-05-20, JR North wrote: Quality varies widely, but mine is excellent for it's class. Did some mods to the shifters, to make them more positive action. The gearing, wiring,relays and control system is very well done (in mine) and works perfectly. Didn't find any casting sand in the gear head. Accuracy is within .001 12" from chuck. The gear head is not particularly noisy. Motor is good, no problems. OK, cool. I do not need some extreme power, etc, but it would be good if it basically worked and could thread, etc and was giving me accuracy that I am capable of. (which is not much) I will bid a small amount. I like the fact that it is light and can be easily moved. i It looks identical to mine (marketed as a CQ-6230). I don't know if I'd call it easily moved. I guess that depends on what you are accustomed to. My machine although a little noisy works fine. The only problem I've had is with crossfeed half nuts and their backlash adjuster. If the cross slide is driven in too far one of the half nuts falls into the chip tray. Unfortunately one of my nuts went out with the swarf one day..... |
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On May 20, 3:44 pm, Ignoramus4856
wrote: One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 This would be for my own use, not resale. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ I looked at one at the local HF store a while back. Fit and finish was pretty bad with slop everywhere BUT I am sure that there was no effort to set it up other than what was needed to get it off the pallet and onto the showroom floor. I would think that $500 would be a steal. Other machine tools I have had from that part of the world have all had soft fasteners that rounded off quickly. I'd suggest a program of replacing important nut/bolts with a better grade as you can |
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Iggy,
I had a very similar looking Chiwanese lathe a couple dozen years ago marketed in Canada under the label "DarSin". I was gunsmithing and building custom competition pistols at the time. After set-up and tweaking I found my lathe to be more than adequate for turning custom barrels. I also used it occasionally for light milling applications with a Palmgren milling attachment. In fact, I was competing in the NRA High Master class in PPC and built myself a custom wheel gun with that venerable 'ol hunk of steel . I lucked into winning a World Championship with that revolver. $150.00 would be an unbelievable steal. I don't think I'll jinx 'ya by saying it's not likely to go anywhere near that cheap. But I'll think good thoughts and keep my fingers crossed for you. Cheers. Michael -- Message posted via CraftKB.com http://www.craftkb.com/Uwe/Forums.as...rking/200805/1 |
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Den wrote: It looks identical to mine (marketed as a CQ-6230). I don't know if I'd call it easily moved. I guess that depends on what you are accustomed to. My machine although a little noisy works fine. The only problem I've had is with crossfeed half nuts and their backlash adjuster. If the cross slide is driven in too far one of the half nuts falls into the chip tray. Unfortunately one of my nuts went out with the swarf one day..... That had to hurt! -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm |
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:09:09 +0800, "Den"
wrote: Unfortunately one of my nuts went out with the swarf one day..... Happened to a friend of mine with a 7.62x39 Now he has a prosthesis. Gunner |
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 02:09:54 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth: On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:09:09 +0800, "Den" wrote: Unfortunately one of my nuts went out with the swarf one day..... Happened to a friend of mine with a 7.62x39 Now he has a prosthesis. Did you tell him "The next time, shoot the OTHER brain if you want to commit suicide."? I trust that he now knows which end is the business end of an AK/SKS. -- The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life, acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man. -- Euripides |
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"Ignoramus4856" wrote in message ... One is coming up on a liquidation locally, wanted to hear opinions, very similar to http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33274 The 13" X 40" below it at the same price looks like a better buy. ??? |
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 06:53:47 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2008 02:09:54 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner quickly quoth: On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:09:09 +0800, "Den" wrote: Unfortunately one of my nuts went out with the swarf one day..... Happened to a friend of mine with a 7.62x39 Now he has a prosthesis. Did you tell him "The next time, shoot the OTHER brain if you want to commit suicide."? I trust that he now knows which end is the business end of an AK/SKS. Nah..that round was addressed "To whom it may concern" Gunner |
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Ignoramus4856 wrote:
OK, cool. I do not need some extreme power, etc, but it would be good if it basically worked and could thread, etc and was giving me accuracy that I am capable of. (which is not much) I will bid a small amount. I like the fact that it is light and can be easily moved. Take your engine lift, stop by harbor fright, buy two furnature movers, and bring some plywood to set on the movers. You can lift it and roll it out to your truck for 40 bucks or so. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Ignoramus4856 wrote:
I was thinking to bid $150 or so. Who knows, it might just work. Last night I was sniping for a metalworking book written by a member of my adoptadads family. Five seconds to go on dsl, sent in bid to fleabay, got an auction ended message. I'm on dsl. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Richard J Kinch wrote:
Wes writes: Take your engine lift, ... Clamp an eyebolt in the chuck and thread the sling through it and under the bed. That way you raise the hoist pivot point well above the center of gravity. Stability is a virtue when lifting. Ah, forget my suggestion. I was thinking about how I move the lathe I am repairing out of my way. I over used my brain at work today. Wes |
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Wes writes:
Take your engine lift, ... Clamp an eyebolt in the chuck and thread the sling through it and under the bed. That way you raise the hoist pivot point well above the center of gravity. Stability is a virtue when lifting. |
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On 2008-05-21, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus4856 wrote: I was thinking to bid $150 or so. Who knows, it might just work. Last night I was sniping for a metalworking book written by a member of my adoptadads family. Five seconds to go on dsl, sent in bid to fleabay, got an auction ended message. I'm on dsl. Perhaps your time is off? Do you run good NTP software? (google for "meinberg ntp client for windows"). This auction that I mentioned, is not an ebay auction. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:46:40 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth: On Wed, 21 May 2008 06:53:47 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2008 02:09:54 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner quickly quoth: On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:09:09 +0800, "Den" wrote: Unfortunately one of my nuts went out with the swarf one day..... Happened to a friend of mine with a 7.62x39 Now he has a prosthesis. Did you tell him "The next time, shoot the OTHER brain if you want to commit suicide."? I trust that he now knows which end is the business end of an AK/SKS. Nah..that round was addressed "To whom it may concern" VC or Raghead spam, eh? 'Tis a shame. -- The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life, acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man. -- Euripides |
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:00:54 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth: Ignoramus4856 wrote: I was thinking to bid $150 or so. Who knows, it might just work. Last night I was sniping for a metalworking book written by a member of my adoptadads family. Five seconds to go on dsl, sent in bid to fleabay, got an auction ended message. I'm on dsl. Ah rectum 5 seconds ain't enough time to properly handshake with SSL to the slow (overworked) eBay servers, Wes. Next time, you might want to give it 20. -- The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life, acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man. -- Euripides |
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:00:54 -0400, Wes wrote:
-snip- Last night I was sniping for a metalworking book written by a member of my adoptadads family. Five seconds to go on dsl, sent in bid to fleabay, got an auction ended message. I'm on dsl. Best ?$20? I ever spent was on auction sentry- It checks your clock against ebay just before the critical moment. https://www.auctionsentry.com/index.htm Ouch- It is still shareware- but now the license isn't for life. $30 for 3 yrs would make me think about it these days. OTOH- the developer updates the product frequently- and in 5 yrs of using it, I've only been out-sniped once. Jim |
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On 2008-05-22, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:00:54 -0400, Wes wrote: -snip- Last night I was sniping for a metalworking book written by a member of my adoptadads family. Five seconds to go on dsl, sent in bid to fleabay, got an auction ended message. I'm on dsl. Best ?$20? I ever spent was on auction sentry- It checks your clock against ebay just before the critical moment. https://www.auctionsentry.com/index.htm Best $0 that I spent on JBidWatcher. jbidwatcher.com though I gave this guy a donation, but that was not at all necessary. Ouch- It is still shareware- but now the license isn't for life. $30 for 3 yrs would make me think about it these days. OTOH- the developer updates the product frequently- and in 5 yrs of using it, I've only been out-sniped once. Jim -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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On Thu, 22 May 2008 05:12:57 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:46:40 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner quickly quoth: On Wed, 21 May 2008 06:53:47 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2008 02:09:54 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner quickly quoth: On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:09:09 +0800, "Den" wrote: Unfortunately one of my nuts went out with the swarf one day..... Happened to a friend of mine with a 7.62x39 Now he has a prosthesis. Did you tell him "The next time, shoot the OTHER brain if you want to commit suicide."? I trust that he now knows which end is the business end of an AK/SKS. Nah..that round was addressed "To whom it may concern" VC or Raghead spam, eh? 'Tis a shame. Cuban Spam actually. Grenada. Genyouwine Saline Filled. His old lady claims its hard to tell the difference betwixt em. Ive not had the desire to check for myself..... Gunner |
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All I've ever needed to place a bid reliably (on dialup, in western PA)
accurately, within the last 8-5 seconds of an auction, was a $8 to 10 digital countdown timer. This way, it doesn't matter if your clock time matches eBay's clock. As the end is nearing (last 10-15 minutes, or sooner), I sync the timer's remaining time to the actual amount of time remaining. The important thing to do is to get the time synchronized for the *very instant* that you click refresh (not including the time it takes for the screen to refresh). It's convenient if the countdown timer has the ability to be stopped, then resume counting down, to get the actual remaining time equalized. This works well by starting with a little more time on the countdown timer, then pausing the countdown to match the actual time remaining. Of course, this only works well if you're willing to be at the computer during the end of the auction. I can't recall having any problems that seemed like overloaded network traffic/activity, but I suppose that could happen. This is the only method I've used, for years now, and it is reliable. It's just as easy to confirm the bid at 3 seconds, as it is to do it at 8, 12 or any other lead time. I generally allow a plus-one-second margin of error, as a safe measure. WB .......... metalworking projects www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html "Wes" wrote in message ... Last night I was sniping for a metalworking book written by a member of my adoptadads family. Five seconds to go on dsl, sent in bid to fleabay, got an auction ended message. I'm on dsl. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Ignoramus12247 wrote:
Perhaps your time is off? Do you run good NTP software? (google for "meinberg ntp client for windows"). I was refreshing and seeing time left. Guess I better pad a bit more time on. I've done 5 seconds before with success. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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On Thu, 22 May 2008 19:01:17 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm,
Steve Ackman quickly quoth: In , on Thu, 22 May 2008 05:17:08 -0700, Larry Jaques, novalidaddress@di wrote: Ah rectum 5 seconds ain't enough time to properly handshake with SSL to the slow (overworked) eBay servers, Wes. Next time, you might want to give it 20. I generally give it 2 or 3 when I'm doing it live and in person. It's always been plenty. It's official: Steve has brass ones. -- The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life, acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man. -- Euripides |
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Wes wrote:
Ignoramus12247 wrote: Perhaps your time is off? Do you run good NTP software? (google for "meinberg ntp client for windows"). I was refreshing and seeing time left. Guess I better pad a bit more time on. I've done 5 seconds before with success. Wes If you really want an item you indicate your highest bid. If that is $700 and no one pushes you above $250 then you get it for $250. |
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On Thu, 22 May 2008 21:02:12 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Al
Patrick quickly quoth: Wes wrote: Ignoramus12247 wrote: Perhaps your time is off? Do you run good NTP software? (google for "meinberg ntp client for windows"). I was refreshing and seeing time left. Guess I better pad a bit more time on. I've done 5 seconds before with success. Wes If you really want an item you indicate your highest bid. If that is $700 and no one pushes you above $250 then you get it for $250. Yeah, but only -snipe- it with a $700 highest bid. Don't offer it up front. That will always cost you more unless someone else wants it more. -- The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life, acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man. -- Euripides |
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"Steve Ackman" wrote in message rg... There's very little as satisfying as winning the auction with your bid time being the same as the end time. ;-) There is one thing better. As you described, but with your winning bid 1¢ more than the under-bidder's. Verrrrry warm feeling. :-) -- Jeff R. |
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 02:00:26 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm,
Steve Ackman quickly quoth: In , on Thu, 22 May 2008 17:24:52 -0700, Larry Jaques, novalidaddress@di wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2008 19:01:17 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Steve Ackman quickly quoth: In , on Thu, 22 May 2008 05:17:08 -0700, Larry Jaques, novalidaddress@di wrote: Ah rectum 5 seconds ain't enough time to properly handshake with SSL to the slow (overworked) eBay servers, Wes. Next time, you might want to give it 20. I generally give it 2 or 3 when I'm doing it live and in person. It's always been plenty. It's official: Steve has brass ones. There's very little as satisfying as winning the auction with your bid time being the same as the end time. ;-) I can imagine that few things would be that satisfying. Just as there are probably few things more frustrating that having lost the auction by one millisecond, eh? Come to think of it, there was one time the bid didn't go through on time, but I was outbid anyway, so even if it had made it in time, I wouldn't have won. shrug There's always the next one. True. I'm waiting for a good price on two things right now. I think this weekend will be key in my winning them for a song, too. (One is software, but the other is metal and has wires, so we're still on topic, NICK. -- "Be the change you want to see in the world." --Mahatma Gandhi - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |
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On 2008-05-24, Jeff R. wrote:
"Steve Ackman" wrote in message rg... There's very little as satisfying as winning the auction with your bid time being the same as the end time. ;-) There is one thing better. As you described, but with your winning bid 1 more than the under-bidder's. There is something even better, winning with your bid exactly equal to that of the underbidder. Happened to me a few times. i Verrrrry warm feeling. :-) -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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