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Iggy? Forklift rental - machine delivery
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. Thanks rem |
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On 2007-12-20, Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. I never rented a forklift and never operated one -- not once. What you need to do can be easily done by a rigger, I know some whose prices are relatively decent. This is not a DIY operation. Alternatively, you may be able to hire a guy with a rolloff bed (like tow truck operators), and a winch, and first winch the Monarch on the rolloff, and then lower it down at your place, usin the winch as a brake. I am hoping that if you tell them that you'd pay in cash, you could have it done for $100. You can borrow my Johnson bar if you want. i |
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"Rob Morden" wrote in message ... I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. Thanks rem Call whoever is going to deliver it, and perhaps they will have a plausible alternative. Like delivering it on a bobtail that has a lift that will handle it. They may surprise you with a simple reasonably priced solution. Steve |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:33:36 -0600, Rob Morden
wrote: I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. Thanks rem Hey Rem, Fitch rented one to take a CNC mill off a trailer once. But that was maybe 8 or 9 years ago in California. Worked out real well, and he had enough money left over to buy a new house!!!VBG Call around. The biggest cost is the drop-off and pick-up charge. |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:11:05 -0600, Ignoramus28147
wrote: On 2007-12-20, Rob Morden wrote: I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. I never rented a forklift and never operated one -- not once. What you need to do can be easily done by a rigger, I know some whose prices are relatively decent. This is not a DIY operation. It is certainly a DIY operation if one has even modest skills. I received a B'Port mill from a flatbed tilt trailer. Skidded it off with cardboard and a boat winch. Failing a tilt trailer, a skidsteer e.g. Bobcat would get 'er done. |
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It is certainly a DIY operation if one has even modest skills. I
received a B'Port mill from a flatbed tilt trailer. Skidded it off with cardboard and a boat winch. Failing a tilt trailer, a skidsteer e.g. Bobcat would get 'er done. That 10EE weighs more than two bridgeports and is top heavy. (narrow machine) You tip it over and you got a pile o' scrap. If you can get it banded to a serious pallet it will help you out considerably. When you get her landed, I'd be glad to share experiences with putting a new drive in. Long story short - get a big (7.5 or 10)three phase motor and VFD. Big motor so you no longer need a back gear. Or I can share how I reused the old backgear. Karl |
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Iggy, Thanks for the reply I guess my memory is more faulty than I
thought. Thanks rem On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:11:05 -0600, Ignoramus28147 wrote: On 2007-12-20, Rob Morden wrote: I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. ... |
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Karl,
I'll be in touch. I'm getting the motor and gear box out of another one so I can put in the back gear - mine is a flat belt drive and it is a v-belt but I have the gear box off mine but missing some pieces. I understand that these machines were between 3200 and 3800 lbs new complete. Mine right now has the doors (200 lbs ?) and the motor / drive assembly out so we are guessing about 2500 lbs for what is left. Pretty wild for a 12 x 26 or so lathe. Thanks rem On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:56:06 -0500, "Karl Townsend" wrote: It is certainly a DIY operation if one has even modest skills. I received a B'Port mill from a flatbed tilt trailer. Skidded it off with cardboard and a boat winch. Failing a tilt trailer, a skidsteer e.g. Bobcat would get 'er done. That 10EE weighs more than two bridgeports and is top heavy. (narrow machine) You tip it over and you got a pile o' scrap. If you can get it banded to a serious pallet it will help you out considerably. When you get her landed, I'd be glad to share experiences with putting a new drive in. Long story short - get a big (7.5 or 10)three phase motor and VFD. Big motor so you no longer need a back gear. Or I can share how I reused the old backgear. Karl |
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All,
Thanks for the input in generall. I'm going to have to do some calling around when things calm down in January. The guy delivering it suggested just having a wrecker with a 3000 lb minimum capacity boom come out and take it off. I guess he has done that before but doesn't know anybody up here. Thanks, rem On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:33:36 -0600, Rob Morden wrote: I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. Thanks rem |
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I think that the boom option is a great idea.
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"Rob Morden" wrote in message ... I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. If you need a rigger you might try Diamond Rigging in Batavia (IL). They treated me well on service and price for local pickup and delivery of a Clausing lathe. It will probably be expensive if you have them meet the delivery truck at your house. A potentially much cheaper option would be to have the Monarch delivered to them and have them deliver it to you when they have another job in your area. Another option might be to contact a local service station that has a tow truck and have them off-load the lathe. The tow truck probably couldn't put it in final position, but pipe rollers might work for that. Mike |
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Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. Thanks rem Perchance is it coming from Ottawa? Paul (in Joliet) -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- |
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Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. Check to see if there is a place you can rent an all terrain forklift from near you. My brother rented one a couple times while building his timber frame home. We self delivered it by driving it 6 miles down side roads. Wes |
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I understand that these machines were between 3200 and 3800 lbs new complete. Mine right now has the doors (200 lbs ?) and the motor / drive assembly out so we are guessing about 2500 lbs for what is left. Pretty wild for a 12 x 26 or so lathe. Yep, heaviest machine for its size in the world. Dang near twice what the similar size hardinge HLV weighs in at. When you got it running, you'll appreciate every ounce of rigidity. Karl |
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Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. I rented a Lull 644B reach forklift for my lathe move. That is the kind that can deliver a ton of drywall through a 3rd floor window while a dozen feet from the house. At 21,000 Lbs, though, it did a NUMBER on my back yard. And, the DAMN thing got stuck MANY times, anyway, despite "4WD" and tires a foot wide and 5' diameter. If it had lockable differentials it would have worked a LOT better. I got this through Hertz truck rental, and they gave me the rate for a much smaller machine, as this was the smallest they had on hand that day. It worked, but I'll never run one of these through my backyard again. For a more recent move, I got a little DaeWoo hard tire machine, and aside from low ground clearance, it worked better. I did get it stuck, too, but it was easier to deal with, at less than half the weight. I got this from a local outfit that rents and services lift trucks, ONLY. If you have to deal with driving over the ground, you need 5 sheets of 3/4" plywood, and expect to crunch them a bit. Jon |
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Jon Elson wrote:
Rob Morden wrote: I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it. I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price. Could you recommend somebody. I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door. I have wheels for it at that point. I need more space, and more time. I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month. I rented a Lull 644B reach forklift for my lathe move. That is the kind that can deliver a ton of drywall through a 3rd floor window while a dozen feet from the house. At 21,000 Lbs, though, it did a NUMBER on my back yard. And, the DAMN thing got stuck MANY times, anyway, despite "4WD" and tires a foot wide and 5' diameter. If it had lockable differentials it would have worked a LOT better. I got this through Hertz truck rental, and they gave me the rate for a much smaller machine, as this was the smallest they had on hand that day. It worked, but I'll never run one of these through my backyard again. I guess you don't have clay sewer pipes under the yard. If you did, you'd have had even a bigger problem. |
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Paul,
Yes it did. I've bought way too much stuff from them in the last few years. Cheers, rem On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:43:19 -0600, Paul wrote: .... Perchance is it coming from Ottawa? Paul (in Joliet) |
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Rob Morden wrote:
Paul, Yes it did. I've bought way too much stuff from them in the last few years. Cheers, rem On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:43:19 -0600, Paul wrote: ... Perchance is it coming from Ottawa? Paul (in Joliet) Rob I saw that one in their mailing list, was planning to look at it when I went out there last week but forgot. I too was thinking it might be an interesting VFD project. Those are nice lathes, you'll have a nice machine when finished...keep us posted. Regards Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- |
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Paul, what am I missing, what is it in Ottawa that you guys are
talking about? i On 2007-12-22, Paul wrote: Rob Morden wrote: Paul, Yes it did. I've bought way too much stuff from them in the last few years. Perchance is it coming from Ottawa? Paul (in Joliet) Rob I saw that one in their mailing list, was planning to look at it when I went out there last week but forgot. I too was thinking it might be an interesting VFD project. Those are nice lathes, you'll have a nice machine when finished...keep us posted. Regards Paul |
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Jim Stewart wrote:
I guess you don't have clay sewer pipes under the yard. If you did, you'd have had even a bigger problem. I do, indeed! But, I know exactly where they are, and kept the lift trucks well away from that area. I did manage to drive over the vent riser of the soil line with a U-Haul truck when moving in, and broke the top of the vertical pipe. I sweated for a coule months that a big sinkhole was going to develop in my back yard due to breaking the soil line, but I think I'm in the clear as that was almost 20 years ago. Jon |
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:03:21 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote: Jim Stewart wrote: I guess you don't have clay sewer pipes under the yard. If you did, you'd have had even a bigger problem. I do, indeed! But, I know exactly where they are, and kept the lift trucks well away from that area. I did manage to drive over the vent riser of the soil line with a U-Haul truck when moving in, and broke the top of the vertical pipe. I sweated for a coule months that a big sinkhole was going to develop in my back yard due to breaking the soil line, but I think I'm in the clear as that was almost 20 years ago. Not a problem - look in the Yellow Pages for "trench plate rentals" in your area. They send out a flatbed with a knuckle-boom and a pile of 1" thick steel plates with a threaded spud for a lifting eye in the center. They can back up and drop you a nice "instant road" through the backyard as they go, leave them for a few days as you do your moving project, then come back and pick them up. Probably cheaper to call them than to buy an equivalent pallet-load of 3/4 plywood that you'll destroy doing the job, even if you put it down triple-layered. Then you have to pay "rent a bin" for a small roll-off to dispose of all the splintered plywood. And the rental company for the flat tire on the forklift when it broke through... -- Bruce -- |
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Ignoramus9551 wrote:
Paul, what am I missing, what is it in Ottawa that you guys are talking about? i Lost Creek Machine, dealers in used and new machine tools and tooling (some woodworking stuff also). Near Ottawa, IL for others reading this thread also. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- |
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