I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.

Thanks
rem

On 2007-12-20, Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.


I never rented a forklift and never operated one -- not once.

What you need to do can be easily done by a rigger, I know some whose
prices are relatively decent. This is not a DIY operation.

Alternatively, you may be able to hire a guy with a rolloff bed (like
tow truck operators), and a winch, and first winch the Monarch on the
rolloff, and then lower it down at your place, usin the winch as a
brake. I am hoping that if you tell them that you'd pay in cash, you
could have it done for $100.

You can borrow my Johnson bar if you want.

i

"Rob Morden" wrote in message
...
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.

Thanks
rem

Call whoever is going to deliver it, and perhaps they will have a plausible
alternative. Like delivering it on a bobtail that has a lift that will
handle it. They may surprise you with a simple reasonably priced solution.

Steve

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:33:36 -0600, Rob Morden
wrote:

I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.

Thanks
rem


Hey Rem,

Fitch rented one to take a CNC mill off a trailer once. But that was
maybe 8 or 9 years ago in California. Worked out real well, and he
had enough money left over to buy a new house!!!VBG

Call around. The biggest cost is the drop-off and pick-up charge.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:11:05 -0600, Ignoramus28147
wrote:

On 2007-12-20, Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.


I never rented a forklift and never operated one -- not once.

What you need to do can be easily done by a rigger, I know some whose
prices are relatively decent. This is not a DIY operation.


It is certainly a DIY operation if one has even modest skills. I
received a B'Port mill from a flatbed tilt trailer. Skidded it off
with cardboard and a boat winch.

Failing a tilt trailer, a skidsteer e.g. Bobcat would get 'er done.

It is certainly a DIY operation if one has even modest skills. I
received a B'Port mill from a flatbed tilt trailer. Skidded it off
with cardboard and a boat winch.

Failing a tilt trailer, a skidsteer e.g. Bobcat would get 'er done.

That 10EE weighs more than two bridgeports and is top heavy. (narrow
machine) You tip it over and you got a pile o' scrap. If you can get it
banded to a serious pallet it will help you out considerably.

When you get her landed, I'd be glad to share experiences with putting a new
drive in. Long story short - get a big (7.5 or 10)three phase motor and VFD.
Big motor so you no longer need a back gear. Or I can share how I reused the
old backgear.

Karl

Iggy, Thanks for the reply I guess my memory is more faulty than I
thought.
Thanks
rem

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:11:05 -0600, Ignoramus28147
wrote:

On 2007-12-20, Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.
...

Karl,
I'll be in touch. I'm getting the motor and gear box out of another
one so I can put in the back gear - mine is a flat belt drive and it
is a v-belt but I have the gear box off mine but missing some pieces.

I understand that these machines were between 3200 and 3800 lbs new
complete. Mine right now has the doors (200 lbs ?) and the motor /
drive assembly out so we are guessing about 2500 lbs for what is left.
Pretty wild for a 12 x 26 or so lathe.

Thanks
rem

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:56:06 -0500, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

It is certainly a DIY operation if one has even modest skills. I
received a B'Port mill from a flatbed tilt trailer. Skidded it off
with cardboard and a boat winch.

Failing a tilt trailer, a skidsteer e.g. Bobcat would get 'er done.

That 10EE weighs more than two bridgeports and is top heavy. (narrow
machine) You tip it over and you got a pile o' scrap. If you can get it
banded to a serious pallet it will help you out considerably.

When you get her landed, I'd be glad to share experiences with putting a new
drive in. Long story short - get a big (7.5 or 10)three phase motor and VFD.
Big motor so you no longer need a back gear. Or I can share how I reused the
old backgear.

Karl

All,

Thanks for the input in generall. I'm going to have to do some
calling around when things calm down in January.

The guy delivering it suggested just having a wrecker with a 3000 lb
minimum capacity boom come out and take it off. I guess he has done
that before but doesn't know anybody up here.

Thanks,
rem

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:33:36 -0600, Rob Morden
wrote:

I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.

Thanks
rem

I think that the boom option is a great idea.

i

"Rob Morden" wrote in message
...
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.

If you need a rigger you might try Diamond Rigging in Batavia (IL). They
treated me well on service and price for local pickup and delivery of a
Clausing lathe. It will probably be expensive if you have them meet the
delivery truck at your house. A potentially much cheaper option would be to
have the Monarch delivered to them and have them deliver it to you when they
have another job in your area. Another option might be to contact a local
service station that has a tow truck and have them off-load the lathe. The
tow truck probably couldn't put it in final position, but pipe rollers might
work for that.

Mike

Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.

Thanks
rem

Perchance is it coming from Ottawa?

Paul (in Joliet)

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Rob Morden wrote:

I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

Check to see if there is a place you can rent an all terrain forklift from
near you. My brother rented one a couple times while building his timber
frame home. We self delivered it by driving it 6 miles down side roads.

Wes

I understand that these machines were between 3200 and 3800 lbs new
complete. Mine right now has the doors (200 lbs ?) and the motor /
drive assembly out so we are guessing about 2500 lbs for what is left.
Pretty wild for a 12 x 26 or so lathe.

Yep, heaviest machine for its size in the world. Dang near twice what the
similar size hardinge HLV weighs in at. When you got it running, you'll
appreciate every ounce of rigidity.

Karl

Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.
I rented a Lull 644B reach forklift for my lathe move. That is
the kind that can deliver a ton of drywall through a 3rd floor
window while a dozen feet from the house. At 21,000 Lbs,
though, it did a NUMBER on my back yard. And, the DAMN thing
got stuck MANY times, anyway, despite "4WD" and tires a foot
wide and 5' diameter. If it had lockable differentials it would
have worked a LOT better. I got this through Hertz truck
rental, and they gave me the rate for a much smaller machine, as
this was the smallest they had on hand that day. It worked, but
I'll never run one of these through my backyard again.

For a more recent move, I got a little DaeWoo hard tire machine,
and aside from low ground clearance, it worked better. I did
get it stuck, too, but it was easier to deal with, at less than
half the weight. I got this from a local outfit that rents and
services lift trucks, ONLY.

If you have to deal with driving over the ground, you need 5
sheets of 3/4" plywood, and expect to crunch them a bit.

Jon

Jon Elson wrote:
Rob Morden wrote:
I just bought a Monarch EE10 - an old one with the drive out of it so
I can afford it. Unfortunately this is the first machine I've bought
that is over 1 ton and I need to unload it when they deliver it.

I recall Iggy that you said some time ago that you had a place that
you rented a forklift from for a day at a pretty reasonable price.
Could you recommend somebody.

I'm in Aurora IL USA and have a slightly sloped asphault driveway to
work on. The guy delivering will have it on a Ford Superduty flat bed
and I need to get it into the garage so it at least clears the door.
I have wheels for it at that point.

I need more space, and more time.

I'll post pictures of it somewhere when I get it next month.
I rented a Lull 644B reach forklift for my lathe move. That is the kind
that can deliver a ton of drywall through a 3rd floor window while a
dozen feet from the house. At 21,000 Lbs, though, it did a NUMBER on my
back yard. And, the DAMN thing got stuck MANY times, anyway, despite
"4WD" and tires a foot wide and 5' diameter. If it had lockable
differentials it would have worked a LOT better. I got this through
Hertz truck rental, and they gave me the rate for a much smaller
machine, as this was the smallest they had on hand that day. It worked,
but I'll never run one of these through my backyard again.

I guess you don't have clay sewer pipes
under the yard. If you did, you'd have
had even a bigger problem.

Paul,
Yes it did. I've bought way too much stuff from them in the last few
years.

Cheers,
rem

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:43:19 -0600, Paul wrote:
....

Perchance is it coming from Ottawa?

Paul (in Joliet)

Rob Morden wrote:
Paul,
Yes it did. I've bought way too much stuff from them in the last few
years.

Cheers,
rem

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:43:19 -0600, Paul wrote:
...

Perchance is it coming from Ottawa?

Paul (in Joliet)



Rob

I saw that one in their mailing list, was planning to look at it when I
went out there last week but forgot. I too was thinking it might be an
interesting VFD project. Those are nice lathes, you'll have a nice
machine when finished...keep us posted.

Regards
Paul


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Paul, what am I missing, what is it in Ottawa that you guys are
talking about?

i

On 2007-12-22, Paul wrote:
Rob Morden wrote:
Paul,
Yes it did. I've bought way too much stuff from them in the last few
years.

Perchance is it coming from Ottawa?

Paul (in Joliet)



Rob

I saw that one in their mailing list, was planning to look at it when I
went out there last week but forgot. I too was thinking it might be an
interesting VFD project. Those are nice lathes, you'll have a nice
machine when finished...keep us posted.

Regards
Paul

Jim Stewart wrote:
I guess you don't have clay sewer pipes
under the yard. If you did, you'd have
had even a bigger problem.

I do, indeed! But, I know exactly where they are, and kept the
lift trucks well away from that area. I did manage to drive
over the vent riser of the soil line with a U-Haul truck when
moving in, and broke the top of the vertical pipe. I sweated
for a coule months that a big sinkhole was going to develop in
my back yard due to breaking the soil line, but I think I'm in
the clear as that was almost 20 years ago.

Jon

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:03:21 -0600, Jon Elson
wrote:

Jim Stewart wrote:
I guess you don't have clay sewer pipes
under the yard. If you did, you'd have
had even a bigger problem.

I do, indeed! But, I know exactly where they are, and kept the
lift trucks well away from that area. I did manage to drive
over the vent riser of the soil line with a U-Haul truck when
moving in, and broke the top of the vertical pipe. I sweated
for a coule months that a big sinkhole was going to develop in
my back yard due to breaking the soil line, but I think I'm in
the clear as that was almost 20 years ago.

Not a problem - look in the Yellow Pages for "trench plate rentals"
in your area. They send out a flatbed with a knuckle-boom and a pile
of 1" thick steel plates with a threaded spud for a lifting eye in the
center. They can back up and drop you a nice "instant road" through
the backyard as they go, leave them for a few days as you do your
moving project, then come back and pick them up.

Probably cheaper to call them than to buy an equivalent pallet-load
of 3/4 plywood that you'll destroy doing the job, even if you put it
down triple-layered. Then you have to pay "rent a bin" for a small
roll-off to dispose of all the splintered plywood. And the rental
company for the flat tire on the forklift when it broke through...

-- Bruce --

Ignoramus9551 wrote:
Paul, what am I missing, what is it in Ottawa that you guys are
talking about?

i


Lost Creek Machine, dealers in used and new machine tools and tooling
(some woodworking stuff also). Near Ottawa, IL for others reading this
thread also.

Paul

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