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I recently came across this from Ridged:
http://www.ridgid.com/seesnakemicro/ "The new RIDGID SeeSnake micro„¢ inspection camera allows you to easily perform visual inspections in hard to reach areas. Its lightweight, handheld design means that it can be carried anywhere €“ providing solutions when and where you need them, while allowing you to offer more services and increase productivity." It isn't really cheap, but it sure would have been handy for fishing around inside walls and... You would think they would have given it a bit more resolution and the ability to take pictures. But then they wouldn't be able to come out with an improved model I guess a few months later. I found it for sale on Fastenal's website, ~$280. The Stanley Laser measures, TLM series (100, 200, 300) would be really cool to have if I was still running conduit. It seems like my one inch wide tape measure was never quite long enough to reach what I wanted. See: http://www.stanleytools.com/default....TNUMBER=77-910 It is suppose to have plus/minus 1/4 inch accuracy at 100 feet which isn't too shabby. Plenty good for running conduit. Too pricey to have around nowadays for occasional use. Around ~$100 for the TLM100 version. So what else is out there that we really don't need, but would be cool to have? -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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Leon Fisk wrote:
I recently came across this from Ridged: http://www.ridgid.com/seesnakemicro/ "The new RIDGID SeeSnake micro„¢ inspection camera allows you to easily perform visual inspections in hard to reach areas. Its lightweight, handheld design means that it can be carried anywhere €“ providing solutions when and where you need them, while allowing you to offer more services and increase productivity." It isn't really cheap, but it sure would have been handy for fishing around inside walls and... You would think they would have given it a bit more resolution and the ability to take pictures. But then they wouldn't be able to come out with an improved model I guess a few months later. I found it for sale on Fastenal's website, ~$280. The Stanley Laser measures, TLM series (100, 200, 300) would be really cool to have if I was still running conduit. It seems like my one inch wide tape measure was never quite long enough to reach what I wanted. See: http://www.stanleytools.com/default....TNUMBER=77-910 It is suppose to have plus/minus 1/4 inch accuracy at 100 feet which isn't too shabby. Plenty good for running conduit. Too pricey to have around nowadays for occasional use. Around ~$100 for the TLM100 version. I have the TLM100, and it's worth every penny. I use it for cave surveys. It also happens to be made in Austria (not China) with technology licensed from Leica Geosystems. |
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So what else is out there that we really don't need, but
would be cool to have? How about the Rigid calender? A must have for any shop. Karl |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
So what else is out there that we really don't need, but would be cool to have? How about the Rigid calender? A must have for any shop. Karl There are better, less politically correct ones... |
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Leon Fisk wrote:
"The new RIDGID SeeSnake micro™ inspection camera allows you to easily perform visual inspections in hard to reach areas. Its lightweight, handheld design means that it can be carried anywhere – providing solutions when and where you need them, while allowing you to offer more services and increase productivity." I've used digicams a lot to see into places in machines rather than do the mirror and flash light routine. Wes |
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Leon Fisk wrote:
... The Stanley Laser measures, TLM series (100, 200, 300) ... http://www.stanleytools.com/default....TNUMBER=77-910 It is suppose to have plus/minus 1/4 inch accuracy at 100 feet which isn't too shabby. ... Too pricey to have around nowadays for occasional use. Around ~$100 for the TLM100 version. $60 at Amazon & FREE shipping http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-77-910.../dp/B000BDIRYC I wonder if the 1/4" accuracy at 100' scales (e.g., .025" at 10'), or if it's always 1/4" (full-scale thing). If it's fixed, it would be too limiting, but scaled would be plenty good enough. Bob |
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
Leon Fisk wrote: ... The Stanley Laser measures, TLM series (100, 200, 300) ... http://www.stanleytools.com/default....TNUMBER=77-910 It is suppose to have plus/minus 1/4 inch accuracy at 100 feet which isn't too shabby. ... Too pricey to have around nowadays for occasional use. Around ~$100 for the TLM100 version. $60 at Amazon & FREE shipping http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-77-910.../dp/B000BDIRYC I wonder if the 1/4" accuracy at 100' scales (e.g., .025" at 10'), or if it's always 1/4" (full-scale thing). If it's fixed, it would be too limiting, but scaled would be plenty good enough. Bob I tested my TLM100 along side my 30' power lock in the hallway, and it was always exact to the 1/8" with the tape. |
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A guy at work sent me a link to a neat magnetic tool for fishing wires
in walls and even under carpet, don't remember the brand name. I'll try to remember to forward the link from my work PC and post it here. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- |
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Why don't they just post the damn prices? No, you gotta give them all kinds
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SteveB wrote:
Why don't they just post the damn prices? No, you gotta give them all kinds of info. Sheesh. You found it anyway, yeah I was kinda disappointed with lack of pricing. I generally take that as a sign something is overpriced... Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- |
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On Dec 10, 2:36 pm, "Pete C." wrote:
Karl Townsend wrote: So what else is out there that we really don't need, but would be cool to have? How about the Rigid calender? A must have for any shop. Karl There are better, less politically correct ones... And they are? TMT |
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On Dec 10, 10:46 pm, Paul wrote:
SteveB wrote: Why don't they just post the damn prices? No, you gotta give them all kinds of info. Sheesh. You found it anyway, yeah I was kinda disappointed with lack of pricing. I generally take that as a sign something is overpriced... Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- I take it as being there is at least one overpriced distribution channel to get it. Such as retail superstores. If home depot sells it they dont want people knowing fastenal sells it for 25% less to their SMALL customers and 35% less to their large ones. Brent Ottawa canada |
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On Dec 10, 7:49 pm, Paul wrote:
A guy at work sent me a link to a neat magnetic tool for fishing wires in walls and even under carpet, don't remember the brand name. I'll try to remember to forward the link from my work PC and post it here. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- That sounds like my greenlee FISH STIX. they are in the cable fishing family of tools but unlike a fish tape you can PUSH it over and through open areas. Basically its 4' lengths of fishing rod with threaded ends and a hook or basket at the end that will easily let you push a cable out up to 24' they save HOURS working up in drop ceilings |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:36:52 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: So what else is out there that we really don't need, but would be cool to have? How about the Rigid calender? A must have for any shop. Karl There are better, less politically correct ones... http://www.stackedandpacked.com/ http://www.rguns.net/006_13.html |
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Dec 10, 2:36 pm, "Pete C." wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: So what else is out there that we really don't need, but would be cool to have? How about the Rigid calender? A must have for any shop. Karl There are better, less politically correct ones... And they are? TMT Not sure of the current ones. Seem to recall one I saw a while back was from a hydraulics company. |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:35:09 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner quickly quoth: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:36:52 GMT, "Pete C." wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: So what else is out there that we really don't need, but would be cool to have? How about the Rigid calender? A must have for any shop. Karl There are better, less politically correct ones... Both of which are better, IMHO. Gimme T&A! http://www.stackedandpacked.com/ Too much beef. http://www.rguns.net/006_13.html Mmmmm, that gal on the front of the 2008 calendar is SMOKIN'! -- My future starts when I wake up every morning... Every day I find something creative to do with my life. -- Miles Davis |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:15:53 -0800 (PST), with neither quill nor
qualm, Brent quickly quoth: On Dec 10, 10:46 pm, Paul wrote: SteveB wrote: Why don't they just post the damn prices? No, you gotta give them all kinds of info. Sheesh. You found it anyway, yeah I was kinda disappointed with lack of pricing. I generally take that as a sign something is overpriced... I take it as being there is at least one overpriced distribution channel to get it. Such as retail superstores. If home depot sells it they dont want people knowing fastenal sells it for 25% less to their SMALL customers and 35% less to their large ones. Are you saying that Fastenal is cheaper than Homey's Despot?!? -- My future starts when I wake up every morning... Every day I find something creative to do with my life. -- Miles Davis |
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"Brent" wrote in message ... On Dec 10, 10:46 pm, Paul wrote: SteveB wrote: Why don't they just post the damn prices? No, you gotta give them all kinds of info. Sheesh. You found it anyway, yeah I was kinda disappointed with lack of pricing. I generally take that as a sign something is overpriced... Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- I take it as being there is at least one overpriced distribution channel to get it. Such as retail superstores. If home depot sells it they dont want people knowing fastenal sells it for 25% less to their SMALL customers and 35% less to their large ones. Brent Ottawa canada They must think we're stupid. I know their reasoning about sales territories. And they can still give their lists of places to buy. But if the item is $1,000 MSRP, I KNOW that it will be cheaper at a local store. The $1,000 figure just gives me a chance to see if I want to research it further. Steve |
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I wonder if the 1/4" accuracy at 100' scales (e.g., .025" at 10'), or if it's always 1/4" (full-scale thing). If it's fixed, it would be too limiting, but scaled would be plenty good enough. Bob If it really uses the laser to measure (as opposed to using the laser to aim a microwave beam like many do), and according to the diagram on the site it does indeed appear to use the laser: then the accuracy is probably constant, not proportional over 100 feet. It becomes a matter of how accurate the nano-second clock is. The difference in time between measuring reflected light over 1/4" is .00000000047 seconds, and you can't build a clock that fast for a few bucks and expect it to maintain pico-second repeatability under field conditions. So the difference between measuring the fairly coarse 10 feet or 100 feet isn't the problem area, it's the float of the timer on that 10th decimal point. -- Dennis |
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DT wrote:
I wonder if the 1/4" accuracy at 100' scales (e.g., .025" at 10'), or if it's always 1/4" (full-scale thing). If it's fixed, it would be too limiting, but scaled would be plenty good enough. Bob If it really uses the laser to measure (as opposed to using the laser to aim a microwave beam like many do), and according to the diagram on the site it does indeed appear to use the laser: then the accuracy is probably constant, not proportional over 100 feet. Yes, it is indeed real laser ranging, no ultrasonic or other low grade junk. The TLM100 is by far the least expensive laser ranger I know of. It's affordable for general use vs. it's bigger siblings with longer ranges. It's also physically smaller than it's siblings which is an advantage for cave survey use. |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:24:07 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: I take it as being there is at least one overpriced distribution channel to get it. Such as retail superstores. If home depot sells it they dont want people knowing fastenal sells it for 25% less to their SMALL customers and 35% less to their large ones. Are you saying that Fastenal is cheaper than Homey's Despot?!? I cant speak for Fastenal..but Im finding that Ferguson (plumbing supplier) virtually any fastner store and most electrical supply houses are cheaper than Home Depot. Both in small and large quantities. Significantly cheaper. Gunner |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent
wrote: On Dec 10, 7:49 pm, Paul wrote: A guy at work sent me a link to a neat magnetic tool for fishing wires in walls and even under carpet, don't remember the brand name. I'll try to remember to forward the link from my work PC and post it here. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- That sounds like my greenlee FISH STIX. they are in the cable fishing family of tools but unlike a fish tape you can PUSH it over and through open areas. Basically its 4' lengths of fishing rod with threaded ends and a hook or basket at the end that will easily let you push a cable out up to 24' they save HOURS working up in drop ceilings I always want to try using an RC 4x4 pulling a fish line on a drop ceiling. Now that the prices are affordable for such toys I don't do stuff like that anymore. I used to just grab a 9 foot low band antenna whip off the van and tie onto the end. Reach as far as a could with that and note which ceiling tile to pop up next. I didn't run stuff everyday or I would have made a better pole type system like you described. Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:21:29 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote: Too pricey to have around nowadays for occasional use. Around ~$100 for the TLM100 version. I have the TLM100, and it's worth every penny. I use it for cave surveys. It also happens to be made in Austria (not China) with technology licensed from Leica Geosystems. Thanks for the reply/review Pete. I wondered how well they worked and you answered the question for me -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Dec 11, 2:37 pm, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Dec 10, 7:49 pm, Paul wrote: A guy at work sent me a link to a neat magnetic tool for fishing wires in walls and even under carpet, don't remember the brand name. I'll try to remember to forward the link from my work PC and post it here. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- That sounds like my greenlee FISH STIX. they are in the cable fishing family of tools but unlike a fish tape you can PUSH it over and through open areas. Basically its 4' lengths of fishing rod with threaded ends and a hook or basket at the end that will easily let you push a cable out up to 24' they save HOURS working up in drop ceilings I always want to try using an RC 4x4 pulling a fish line on a drop ceiling. Now that the prices are affordable for such toys I don't do stuff like that anymore. I used to just grab a 9 foot low band antenna whip off the van and tie onto the end. Reach as far as a could with that and note which ceiling tile to pop up next. I didn't run stuff everyday or I would have made a better pole type system like you described. Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email Leon youre a genius =) the thought of usng an RC vehicle never crossed my mind but its SOOOOOO elegant and simple And it means i get to buy a fun toy when its not work time |
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On Dec 11, 1:33 pm, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:24:07 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: I take it as being there is at least one overpriced distribution channel to get it. Such as retail superstores. If home depot sells it they dont want people knowing fastenal sells it for 25% less to their SMALL customers and 35% less to their large ones. Are you saying that Fastenal is cheaper than Homey's Despot?!? I cant speak for Fastenal..but Im finding that Ferguson (plumbing supplier) virtually any fastner store and most electrical supply houses are cheaper than Home Depot. Both in small and large quantities. Significantly cheaper. Gunner Same thing I used North American wide examples. But I prefer going to Ottawa Fastener Supply, or Preston Hardware. Same logic of course holds. Their clientele STARTS with the heavy duty handyman and goes up into trades and businesses from there. But it made more sense considering its an international group to quote the national chains in each dept |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:09:42 -0800 (PST), Brent
wrote: On Dec 11, 2:37 pm, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun Leon youre a genius =) the thought of usng an RC vehicle never crossed my mind but its SOOOOOO elegant and simple And it means i get to buy a fun toy when its not work time If you do and get a chance to try it out I want to know how well it works They were too darn expensive yet when I was doing stuff like that. Sure beats falling through the ceiling though like one of my co-workers did. Ooops! Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:36:08 -0500, Leon Fisk
wrote: Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... Here are three different patents illustrating the idea: http://www.google.com/patents?vid=4587943 http://www.google.com/patents?vid=6209531 http://www.google.com/patents?vid=2808043 Don't know if one was ever sold, but it wouldn't be too hard to make one for yourself. RC would be more fun -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Dec 11, 3:36 pm, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:09:42 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Dec 11, 2:37 pm, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun Leon youre a genius =) the thought of usng an RC vehicle never crossed my mind but its SOOOOOO elegant and simple And it means i get to buy a fun toy when its not work time If you do and get a chance to try it out I want to know how well it works They were too darn expensive yet when I was doing stuff like that. Sure beats falling through the ceiling though like one of my co-workers did. Ooops! Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email I'm kinda thinking Tank instead of 4x4 to climb the T bars but I've also been looking for a good type of elastic for the slingshot. But its better than a rifle looking dartgun too. the British Mark IV seems like an almost ideal vehicle for crawling through roof tiles since it cant even be flipped |
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Leon Fisk wrote:
Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. .... Here are three different patents illustrating the idea: ... I was made a sling shot with a fishing reel attached, to shoot line over tree limbs, to start ropes for felling. Didn't work for ****. Problem was the line would get tangled in the slingshot. Went through a number of revisions before I gave up. Along a similar line, and maybe useful over dropped ceilings, would be a compressed air gun shooting a soft ball, with string attached. Here's a start: http://www.antennalaunchers.com/antlaunching.html Bob |
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"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message . .. Leon Fisk wrote: Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. ... Here are three different patents illustrating the idea: ... I was made a sling shot with a fishing reel attached, to shoot line over tree limbs, to start ropes for felling. Didn't work for ****. Problem was the line would get tangled in the slingshot. Went through a number of revisions before I gave up. It works better if you use an arrow in the slingshot. Bend a piece of coat-hanger wire for an arrow guide, with a bent notch between the two arms of the slingshot. Tie the string near the point of the arrow, rather than the nock, if you have any trouble with the string getting caught in the rubber. This is the setup I've used to launch a string for radio antennas, over trees, in the field. I've used a closed-face spincasting reel taped to the front of the grip and I've tried open-face. Closed face is less troublesome. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Leon Fisk" wrote Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... -- Leon Fisk Electricians in the convention industry in Las Vegas use sling shots with a Zebco reel taped on to shoot a nut carrying fishing line. They then pull a rope that pulls their cables through the bar joists that support the ceiling. Been doing it for quite a while. Steve |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:37:39 -0500, Leon Fisk
wrote: I used to just grab a 9 foot low band antenna whip off the van and tie onto the end. Reach as far as a could with that and note which ceiling tile to pop up next. I didn't run stuff everyday or I would have made a better pole type system like you described. Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun I have, on occasion, used a 30' tape measure with a suitable wad of vinyl tape over the hook to fish a pull string through ceiling spaces. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Dec 11, 6:44 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"Leon Fisk" wrote Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... -- Leon Fisk Electricians in the convention industry in Las Vegas use sling shots with a Zebco reel taped on to shoot a nut carrying fishing line. They then pull a rope that pulls their cables through the bar joists that support the ceiling. Been doing it for quite a while. Steve I saw the greenlee cablecaster and as a kid i had a little fishing rod called a pocket fisherman. It was a closed face reel and about 18 inches long overall with a little peice of rod I am CURSING MYSELF for having lost it in the changes of houses because casting a nut or sinker with it would have been so nice. I never attached much faith in it as fishing equipment since i always used open bail reels from the age of about 8 onwards and it seemed like a gimmick or something to put in a suitcase I suddenly wish it was in my toolbox. Brent Ottawa Canada |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:36:08 -0500, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:09:42 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Dec 11, 2:37 pm, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun Leon youre a genius =) the thought of usng an RC vehicle never crossed my mind but its SOOOOOO elegant and simple And it means i get to buy a fun toy when its not work time If you do and get a chance to try it out I want to know how well it works They were too darn expensive yet when I was doing stuff like that. Sure beats falling through the ceiling though like one of my co-workers did. Ooops! Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... I don't know the truth of the matter, but the story was that on Friday afternoon, a pull string needed to be provided in 500' of 8" duct. One of the crew came back from the pet store with a rabbit which he harnessed to the string. When said rabbit refused to go more than ten feet into the duct, he pulled it back and applied a few drops of gasoline to the exhaust pipe. It was estimated the rabbit was doing 30 MPH when it came out the other end. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:40:59 -0500, Gerald Miller
wrote: I don't know the truth of the matter, but the story was that on Friday afternoon, a pull string needed to be provided in 500' of 8" duct. One of the crew came back from the pet store with a rabbit which he harnessed to the string. When said rabbit refused to go more than ten feet into the duct, he pulled it back and applied a few drops of gasoline to the exhaust pipe. It was estimated the rabbit was doing 30 MPH when it came out the other end. Gerry :-)} London, Canada And the crewman with the bright idea of using gasoline on the animal was met at the other end of the conduit by a Humane Officer and the local Deputy Sheriff with the "matching bracelets" already out. Do not even kid about **** like that. Unless you want us to book the "Michael Vick Suite" for you at the regional Club Fed. There are more effective ways to do things like that - find a friend with a pet Ferret or two. They aren't stupid - once the Carpet Shark gets the idea that when they follow the sound of the ringing bell and come out the other end of the pipe they get their favorite treat, they'll be in and out faster than that rabbit ever could - and it won't hurt. And even at that you purge the pipes with a manhole blower first, to make sure there is good air inside. -- Bruce -- |
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"Brent" wrote in message ... On Dec 11, 6:44 pm, "SteveB" wrote: "Leon Fisk" wrote Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... -- Leon Fisk Electricians in the convention industry in Las Vegas use sling shots with a Zebco reel taped on to shoot a nut carrying fishing line. They then pull a rope that pulls their cables through the bar joists that support the ceiling. Been doing it for quite a while. Steve I saw the greenlee cablecaster and as a kid i had a little fishing rod called a pocket fisherman. It was a closed face reel and about 18 inches long overall with a little peice of rod I am CURSING MYSELF for having lost it in the changes of houses because casting a nut or sinker with it would have been so nice. I never attached much faith in it as fishing equipment since i always used open bail reels from the age of about 8 onwards and it seemed like a gimmick or something to put in a suitcase I suddenly wish it was in my toolbox. Brent Ottawa Canada I got some 18" ice fishing poles and reels for Christmas last year. They are the bail type reels and not pushbutton type. But, I bet you could get a pushbutton one, and I do know they make short poles ala Snoopy Fishing Poles for kids. STeve |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent
wrote: On Dec 10, 7:49 pm, Paul wrote: A guy at work sent me a link to a neat magnetic tool for fishing wires in walls and even under carpet, don't remember the brand name. I'll try to remember to forward the link from my work PC and post it here. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- That sounds like my greenlee FISH STIX. they are in the cable fishing family of tools but unlike a fish tape you can PUSH it over and through open areas. Basically its 4' lengths of fishing rod with threaded ends and a hook or basket at the end that will easily let you push a cable out up to 24' they save HOURS working up in drop ceilings Drop ceilings were MADE for remote control trucks!!! I have an old BAHA buggy with the body taken off that I run in reverse across suspendend ceilings tied to a fish line.. If it gets stuck I jerk it back a bit and take another run at it. When it drops through the hole at the other end I tie my network cable to it and real in the fishline. For heavier cables I pull a pull rope through with the fishline, then use that to pull the heavy cable. I was hoping it would give me the excuse to buy a real good 4X4 with proportional control, but the old garage sale find has done the job well enough that I've been satisfied not spending the extra. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:09:42 -0800 (PST), Brent
wrote: On Dec 11, 2:37 pm, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Dec 10, 7:49 pm, Paul wrote: A guy at work sent me a link to a neat magnetic tool for fishing wires in walls and even under carpet, don't remember the brand name. I'll try to remember to forward the link from my work PC and post it here. Paul -- ----------------------------------------- It's a Linux world....well, it oughta be. ----------------------------------------- That sounds like my greenlee FISH STIX. they are in the cable fishing family of tools but unlike a fish tape you can PUSH it over and through open areas. Basically its 4' lengths of fishing rod with threaded ends and a hook or basket at the end that will easily let you push a cable out up to 24' they save HOURS working up in drop ceilings I always want to try using an RC 4x4 pulling a fish line on a drop ceiling. Now that the prices are affordable for such toys I don't do stuff like that anymore. I used to just grab a 9 foot low band antenna whip off the van and tie onto the end. Reach as far as a could with that and note which ceiling tile to pop up next. I didn't run stuff everyday or I would have made a better pole type system like you described. Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun -- Been using mine off and on for over 10 years. Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email Leon youre a genius =) the thought of usng an RC vehicle never crossed my mind but its SOOOOOO elegant and simple And it means i get to buy a fun toy when its not work time -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:40:59 -0500, Gerald Miller
wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:36:08 -0500, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:09:42 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Dec 11, 2:37 pm, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun Leon youre a genius =) the thought of usng an RC vehicle never crossed my mind but its SOOOOOO elegant and simple And it means i get to buy a fun toy when its not work time If you do and get a chance to try it out I want to know how well it works They were too darn expensive yet when I was doing stuff like that. Sure beats falling through the ceiling though like one of my co-workers did. Ooops! Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... I don't know the truth of the matter, but the story was that on Friday afternoon, a pull string needed to be provided in 500' of 8" duct. One of the crew came back from the pet store with a rabbit which he harnessed to the string. When said rabbit refused to go more than ten feet into the duct, he pulled it back and applied a few drops of gasoline to the exhaust pipe. It was estimated the rabbit was doing 30 MPH when it came out the other end. Gerry :-)} London, Canada Well I KNOW mice have been used to get a pull line through condoit ----.(1.5 or 2") -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Gerald Miller" wrote in message news On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:36:08 -0500, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:09:42 -0800 (PST), Brent wrote: On Dec 11, 2:37 pm, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:20:34 -0800 (PST), Brent Still think that would be a good RC application and maybe make the job a bit more fun Leon youre a genius =) the thought of usng an RC vehicle never crossed my mind but its SOOOOOO elegant and simple And it means i get to buy a fun toy when its not work time If you do and get a chance to try it out I want to know how well it works They were too darn expensive yet when I was doing stuff like that. Sure beats falling through the ceiling though like one of my co-workers did. Ooops! Somebody made a sling-shot, weight and string rig too. Nowadays someone would probably freak out and call the police if they saw you with a sling-shot... I don't know the truth of the matter, but the story was that on Friday afternoon, a pull string needed to be provided in 500' of 8" duct. One of the crew came back from the pet store with a rabbit which he harnessed to the string. When said rabbit refused to go more than ten feet into the duct, he pulled it back and applied a few drops of gasoline to the exhaust pipe. It was estimated the rabbit was doing 30 MPH when it came out the other end. The tale may have mutated into some uncertainties by the time it reached me, but the role played by the animal would have remained a constant. Seems there was an offshore oil rig with some problem, maybe a grounding problem which required attatching a cable at the bottom of one of the supporting legs after the unit had been in service for some time. Underwater cutting into the leg was not a bright idea for obvious reasons. And, evidently, the interior of the leg was made nearly impassable by a collection of fixed apparatus and general mechanical obstructions and wires. So, a bright boy got the idea of getting a dead rabbit and blew it, or most of what remained of it, down to the end of the leg with extreme air pressure. Then (remember another poster mentioned one of these) they took a ferret and affixed a cable with an electromagnetic clamp on his neck. When the cable reached maximum payout, the triggered the clamp which also released the ferret's collar and allowed him to come up into a cage baited with more of Brer' Rabbit. Regards, Edward Hennessey |
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