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In another post the term power wagon came up and it reminded me of the huge
rock pile I must move this spring. I've been wanting a walk behind self
propelled larger than normal garden variety dumping wagon for a while.
Anyone have plans already available BEFORE I start searching. I've got a few
spare B&S and Honda engines salvaged from dead generators and lawn tractors
and would like to build one fairly soon.

This is what I would like to do with it.

1) self dumping bed...flip a switch / valve and rocks on the ground
2) carry at least 700 lbs some of my rocks are over 100lbs each and it's a
ways from the rock pile
3) Forward / Reverse and a positive braking system..Sometimes I'm on a hill

Doesn't matter if the propulsion is mechanical or pneumatic except I would
like the cost to be as low as possible

Anyone have plans online??

Thanks
Pedroman


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Pedroman wrote:

In another post the term power wagon came up and it reminded me of the huge
rock pile I must move this spring. I've been wanting a walk behind self
propelled larger than normal garden variety dumping wagon for a while.
Anyone have plans already available BEFORE I start searching. I've got a few
spare B&S and Honda engines salvaged from dead generators and lawn tractors
and would like to build one fairly soon.

This is what I would like to do with it.

1) self dumping bed...flip a switch / valve and rocks on the ground
2) carry at least 700 lbs some of my rocks are over 100lbs each and it's a
ways from the rock pile
3) Forward / Reverse and a positive braking system..Sometimes I'm on a hill

Doesn't matter if the propulsion is mechanical or pneumatic except I would
like the cost to be as low as possible

Anyone have plans online??

Thanks
Pedroman


I was the one who posted about my power wagon. I didn't have any plans
- I "designed" it by copying the DR Power Wagon. I used the transaxle
out of a riding lawnmower and a smaller lawnmower engine.

The geometry required to get it to dump resulted in a bed that's pretty
high. Lifting 100# rocks onto it would be a lot of work. A high center
of gravity is another result. This is a problem on hills. Going up a
hill, the COG is now longer over the driving wheels and traction
suffers. Going across a hill is really tricky. Traction is a big
problem - I added 150# of lead without satisfaction. I have some chains
that I'm going to adapt.

The best way to move rocks (excluding a bucket on a tractor) is a sled.
Just a piece of 1/8 steel sheet with the curved up front edge. Pulled
by a riding lawnmower. Roll the stones on and roll them off.

Bob
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What Bob said about the sled. We call them 'stone boats'. I was
stuggling with lifting rocks into a dump wagon, an old timer
neighbor loaned me his sled. He was too old to use it any more,
it has had a few repairs and still sits in my 'use it every now
and then pile' It has lasted much longer than he did.

Bob Engelhardt wrote:

Pedroman wrote:

In another post the term power wagon came up and it reminded me of the huge
rock pile I must move this spring. I've been wanting a walk behind self
propelled larger than normal garden variety dumping wagon for a while.
Anyone have plans already available BEFORE I start searching. I've got a few
spare B&S and Honda engines salvaged from dead generators and lawn tractors
and would like to build one fairly soon.

This is what I would like to do with it.

1) self dumping bed...flip a switch / valve and rocks on the ground
2) carry at least 700 lbs some of my rocks are over 100lbs each and it's a
ways from the rock pile
3) Forward / Reverse and a positive braking system..Sometimes I'm on a hill

Doesn't matter if the propulsion is mechanical or pneumatic except I would
like the cost to be as low as possible

Anyone have plans online??

Thanks
Pedroman



I was the one who posted about my power wagon. I didn't have any plans
- I "designed" it by copying the DR Power Wagon. I used the transaxle
out of a riding lawnmower and a smaller lawnmower engine.

The geometry required to get it to dump resulted in a bed that's pretty
high. Lifting 100# rocks onto it would be a lot of work. A high center
of gravity is another result. This is a problem on hills. Going up a
hill, the COG is now longer over the driving wheels and traction
suffers. Going across a hill is really tricky. Traction is a big
problem - I added 150# of lead without satisfaction. I have some chains
that I'm going to adapt.

The best way to move rocks (excluding a bucket on a tractor) is a sled.
Just a piece of 1/8 steel sheet with the curved up front edge. Pulled
by a riding lawnmower. Roll the stones on and roll them off.

Bob

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The best way to move rocks (excluding a bucket on a tractor) is a sled.
Just a piece of 1/8 steel sheet with the curved up front edge. Pulled
by a riding lawnmower. Roll the stones on and roll them off.

Bob

Best thing I ever "invented" was using an old truck hood as a sled. Used it
for transplanting bushes with large dirt balls on them. Just roll them on
and off the hood. Punched two holes in the front of the hood, used a short
piece of chain as a bridle, and pulled it with the truck or tractor. The
front of the hood was turned up (down) so it moved very easily. Hood also
had a ridge down the middle so it tracked straight.
Never did put a patent on it so you are free to use it. :-)


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Chief McGee wrote:


The best way to move rocks (excluding a bucket on a tractor) is a sled.
Just a piece of 1/8 steel sheet with the curved up front edge. Pulled
by a riding lawnmower. Roll the stones on and roll them off.

Bob

Best thing I ever "invented" was using an old truck hood as a sled. Used it
for transplanting bushes with large dirt balls on them. Just roll them on
and off the hood. Punched two holes in the front of the hood, used a short
piece of chain as a bridle, and pulled it with the truck or tractor. The
front of the hood was turned up (down) so it moved very easily. Hood also
had a ridge down the middle so it tracked straight.
Never did put a patent on it so you are free to use it. :-)

sounds like in the 50's my dad had this old car, the seats in it well,
they were not in it so he used some old time milk cases, the wooden ones
with the sheetmetal bracking on them.. they workd for sitting in a car
to drive it as it was just about the right height to drive.. i dont
think he patented it either..... but dont try that today as there would
be problems attaching a seat belt to those old milk cases....
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