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George Rickey Sculpture..How does it work?
I recently saw this George Rickey sculpture at my local library branch.
The interesting thing is the way it moves. Its obviously 2 triangles suspended in such a way as to move in the wind. There is a central bearing at the top of the pole, allowing it to turn to face the wind and the trinagles move horizontally. However, the traingles never seem to tip completely over like you would expect them to. I watched it for a long time and concluded the bottoms of the traingles are weighted somehow to offset the balance, but at some point, I would expect the tipping point or weight at the top cause it to tip over. Its made of stainless plate welded to form square tubes that make up the triangles. How do you think this done? Hopefully the pictures will be able to tell the story of how it moves. His other pieces are also an elegant use of material and balance. View my pics he http://photos.yahoo.com/knucklehead1002002 -Mike |
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I viewed your pics with interest. It almost seems a physical impossibility
that they would ever turn completely over due to the way they are weighted. I was wondering if they might be gear driven somehow and motors in there to get them to turn. I cant imagine how turning the both of them into the wind in any direction would ever allow them to catch enough wind to even stand up straight from their axis point. They look too top heavy. "mclorson" wrote in message oups.com... I recently saw this George Rickey sculpture at my local library branch. The interesting thing is the way it moves. Its obviously 2 triangles suspended in such a way as to move in the wind. There is a central bearing at the top of the pole, allowing it to turn to face the wind and the trinagles move horizontally. However, the traingles never seem to tip completely over like you would expect them to. I watched it for a long time and concluded the bottoms of the traingles are weighted somehow to offset the balance, but at some point, I would expect the tipping point or weight at the top cause it to tip over. Its made of stainless plate welded to form square tubes that make up the triangles. How do you think this done? Hopefully the pictures will be able to tell the story of how it moves. His other pieces are also an elegant use of material and balance. View my pics he http://photos.yahoo.com/knucklehead1002002 -Mike |
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I haven't seen any of that series but I did help erect one of his spear
pieces at our local science museum. It was three 8' long tapered spikes formed in stainless and mounted on a 12' pole with a pivoting top. The spikes had universal joint mounts about 2' from the big end. The only limit stops were to keep it from bumping into the support pole but otherwise could swing freely. The bottom of each spike had just enough lead weight to hold it vertical. The slightest pressure would send it spinning. In normal winds the spikes will only go as far as the horizontal but they can rotate 360 degrees. I know this because I was standing at the base mounting the title plate to the pole when the guy in the bucket who was giving it a final polish bumped a spike and sent the tip flying about an inch away from my face. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "mclorson" wrote in message oups.com... I recently saw this George Rickey sculpture at my local library branch. The interesting thing is the way it moves. Its obviously 2 triangles suspended in such a way as to move in the wind. There is a central bearing at the top of the pole, allowing it to turn to face the wind and the trinagles move horizontally. However, the traingles never seem to tip completely over like you would expect them to. I watched it for a long time and concluded the bottoms of the traingles are weighted somehow to offset the balance, but at some point, I would expect the tipping point or weight at the top cause it to tip over. Its made of stainless plate welded to form square tubes that make up the triangles. How do you think this done? Hopefully the pictures will be able to tell the story of how it moves. His other pieces are also an elegant use of material and balance. View my pics he http://photos.yahoo.com/knucklehead1002002 -Mike |
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The lead weight would make sense. I noticed the pivot point of the
triangle is anchored from the very axis of the traingle and actually extends toward the middle of the triangle. This would, I think, move the center of gravity to a balnce point ...if the weight were heavy enough. I don't know for sure, but I don't think there is anything mechanical to offset the weight. Other than counterbalancing. -Mike |
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hint "Two Open Triangles, Gyratory II Rickey's two wind driven
elements (geared down so that in high winds the parts are not dangerous) provide an endless series of combined, almost dance like, shapes and movements" ... If you look closely at the pictures, you will notice that the edges are recessed and appear to be gear connected (rack and pinion) to each other. "mclorson" wrote in message oups.com... |I recently saw this George Rickey sculpture at my local library branch. | The interesting thing is the way it moves. Its obviously 2 triangles | suspended in such a way as to move in the wind. There is a central | bearing at the top of the pole, allowing it to turn to face the wind | and the trinagles move horizontally. However, the traingles never seem | to tip completely over like you would expect them to. I watched it for | a long time and concluded the bottoms of the traingles are weighted | somehow to offset the balance, but at some point, I would expect the | tipping point or weight at the top cause it to tip over. Its made of | stainless plate welded to form square tubes that make up the triangles. | How do you think this done? Hopefully the pictures will be able to tell | the story of how it moves. His other pieces are also an elegant use of | material and balance. View my pics he | | http://photos.yahoo.com/knucklehead1002002 | | -Mike | |
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hint "Two Open Triangles, Gyratory II Rickey's two wind driven elements (geared down so that in high winds the parts are not dangerous) provide an endless series of combined, almost dance like, shapes and movements" There are no gears that I was able to see close up. Even if so, remarkable engineeering don't you think? ... If you look closely at the pictures, you will notice that the edges are recessed and appear to be gear connected (rack and pinion) to each other. The triangles are not connected to each other. There is a small lip around the entire outer surface where it appears the exterior has been spot welded onto an internal frame They move completely independant of each other. I'd like to know more...where are you quoting from? -Mike |
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mclorson wrote:
I recently saw this George Rickey sculpture at my local library branch. The interesting thing is the way it moves. Its obviously 2 triangles suspended in such a way as to move in the wind. There is a central bearing at the top of the pole, allowing it to turn to face the wind and the trinagles move horizontally. However, the traingles never seem to tip completely over like you would expect them to. I watched it for a long time and concluded the bottoms of the traingles are weighted somehow to offset the balance, but at some point, I would expect the tipping point or weight at the top cause it to tip over. Its made of stainless plate welded to form square tubes that make up the triangles. How do you think this done? Hopefully the pictures will be able to tell the story of how it moves. His other pieces are also an elegant use of material and balance. View my pics he http://photos.yahoo.com/knucklehead1002002 -Mike Since nobody mentioned "springs", I will... But it probably is just plain old gravity. I hope that the pivots are well designed remain mechanically sound as they weather and wear. The artist/owners probably wouldn't want to experience the gravity of the situation if one of those triangles went sailing off into the breeze and landed in an occupied baby carriage. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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I agree with other posters that this is rather neat.
Figure it's just a matter of weighting the triangles properly and setting the pivot points at or above the center of gravity. The different edges of the triangles act as simple air foils and cause the triangles to move relative to each other. And the bicycle crank in the middle adds to the effect. Not complex but VERY ingenious! DOC "mclorson" wrote in message oups.com... I recently saw this George Rickey sculpture at my local library branch. The interesting thing is the way it moves. Its obviously 2 triangles suspended in such a way as to move in the wind. There is a central bearing at the top of the pole, allowing it to turn to face the wind and the trinagles move horizontally. However, the traingles never seem to tip completely over like you would expect them to. I watched it for a long time and concluded the bottoms of the traingles are weighted somehow to offset the balance, but at some point, I would expect the tipping point or weight at the top cause it to tip over. Its made of stainless plate welded to form square tubes that make up the triangles. How do you think this done? Hopefully the pictures will be able to tell the story of how it moves. His other pieces are also an elegant use of material and balance. View my pics he http://photos.yahoo.com/knucklehead1002002 -Mike |
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What appears to be a bicycle crank is really a flat level bar with the
axles mounted on each end opposing each other. My underneath angle for taking the picture made it appear that way. Yeah, great stuff...I'm drooling. -M |
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Ah...
That guy needs to put a crank in there!! Don't these artists know anything?? :-)oooooooo DOC "mclorson" wrote in message oups.com... What appears to be a bicycle crank is really a flat level bar with the axles mounted on each end opposing each other. My underneath angle for taking the picture made it appear that way. Yeah, great stuff...I'm drooling. -M |
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