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Atlas milling attachment
Saw this on E-bay today.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...egory=12 72&r d=1 Any opinions on this. Seems like he wants a lot of money for it. I wouldn't mind having one as I don't have room for a real milling macine but I wonder if these things are worth buying. It uses a morse taper collet and I'm uncertain if they would have enough holding power. Also would this cause excessive wear to my old Atlas? Then there's the question of whether it would be a big pain in the ass to setup. -- Doug Arthurs Kent Bridge, On Check out my website at http://www.netrover.com/~arthurs/ |
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Saw this on E-bay today. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...egory=12 72&r d=1 Any opinions on this. Seems like he wants a lot of money for it. I wouldn't mind having one as I don't have room for a real milling macine but I wonder if these things are worth buying. It uses a morse taper collet and I'm uncertain if they would have enough holding power. Also would this cause excessive wear to my old Atlas? Then there's the question of whether it would be a big pain in the ass to setup. Basically all your suspicions are correct. 1) they are very limited in rigidity and are difficult to set up for any involved work, beyond a simple keyway. 2) you cannot take heavy cuts with the MT2 collet holding an endmill, but then one cannot as a general rule take heavy cuts with a milling attachment anway. 3) if you do take heavy cuts it will put a bit of a strain on the cross slide and so on. 4) even with all these drawbacks, a milling attachment like this is better than no milling machine at all, and as such are highly in demand - and tend to fetch a very good price. Scan around and see what an original southbend milling attachment would cost on ebay, if you can find one. =8-O Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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Yes they are expensive. I was going to buy one but instead bought a used "bench top" knee type mill-drill at an auction for $500 and made room for it. Glad I did, much more versatile and easier to use. I know this really doesn't answer your question, but thought I'd give you a nudge in the direction of a mill. I guess it depends on how much you would use it. Lane "Doug Arthurs" wrote in message ... Saw this on E-bay today. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...egory=12 72&r d=1 Any opinions on this. Seems like he wants a lot of money for it. I wouldn't mind having one as I don't have room for a real milling macine but I wonder if these things are worth buying. It uses a morse taper collet and I'm uncertain if they would have enough holding power. Also would this cause excessive wear to my old Atlas? Then there's the question of whether it would be a big pain in the ass to setup. -- Doug Arthurs Kent Bridge, On Check out my website at http://www.netrover.com/~arthurs/ |
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"Doug Arthurs" wrote in message ... Saw this on E-bay today. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...egory=12 72&r d=1 Any opinions on this. Seems like he wants a lot of money for it. I wouldn't mind having one as I don't have room for a real milling macine but I wonder if these things are worth buying. It uses a morse taper collet and I'm uncertain if they would have enough holding power. Also would this cause excessive wear to my old Atlas? Then there's the question of whether it would be a big pain in the ass to setup. -- Doug Arthurs Kent Bridge, On Check out my website at http://www.netrover.com/~arthurs/ I've known a few people that have them, and mostly they say they are very limited in what they can do. Mark |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:10:09 -0400, "Doug Arthurs"
wrote: Saw this on E-bay today. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...egory=12 72&r d=1 Any opinions on this. Seems like he wants a lot of money for it. I wouldn't mind having one as I don't have room for a real milling macine but I wonder if these things are worth buying. It uses a morse taper collet and I'm uncertain if they would have enough holding power. Also would this cause excessive wear to my old Atlas? Then there's the question of whether it would be a big pain in the ass to setup. I made up a heavy angle setup for my SB9A to hold the compound in the vertical plane. End mills are held in a MT3 3/8 collet from Busy Bee. Not a perfect setup by any means but it helps me putter in my shop for my own enjoyment. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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Atlas milling attachment
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http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2546974159 The price seems a little outrageous. Well - there are no bids yet. It might not sell. However IMO milling attachments like this (factory ones, not the palmgren type) are pretty rare and tend to go for big money. A cursory ebay seach show this one as being the only one, including recent finished auctions as well. So it's tough to get a comp. I have to agree with you that they hardly seem to be worth the money, given the limited utility. I actually purchased a *new* 9" SB milling attachment for my lathe at one point, back when this did not require taking out a bank loan. The person who purchased that machine was very happy to see that it was included! Jim ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at yktvmv (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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Ain't worth the scrap rate of iron..........they are all junk On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:16:44 -0400, Jack Erbes wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:10:09 -0400, "Doug Arthurs" wrote: Saw this on E-bay today. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...egory=12 72&r d=1 Any opinions on this. Seems like he wants a lot of money for it. I wouldn't mind having one as I don't have room for a real milling macine but I wonder if these things are worth buying. It uses a morse taper collet and I'm uncertain if they would have enough holding power. Also would this cause excessive wear to my old Atlas? Then there's the question of whether it would be a big pain in the ass to setup. The price seems a little outrageous. The original collet setup on the Atlas consisted of a nose piece type, hardened and ground collet holder (that went into the spindle end), a spindle cap to protect the spindle threads and also unseat the collet holder for removal, and a drawbar for the collets. That used 3AT collets (near duplicates of the South Bend 3C collets) and the drawbar handle was tapped with a soft hammer to unseat the collets. I used that equipment for holding material for turning and also for holding cutters when using the milling attachment as seen on the auction. The milling attachment is tall and not a benchmark for rigidity. But lights cuts with good cutters and some patience will let you accomplish some meaningful work. One thing I used mine for was cutting extractor slots in the end of rifle and pistol barrels because I did not have any other way to make small, intricate, cuts on the end of a long object. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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I bought one of those new in 1977, before I got my mill-drill. IIRC, the
price was about $250.00. It is capable of some decent work, as long as you get to know its limitations, and spend time setting it up right. Good sharp end mills help, because the setup is flimsy, and anything done to reduce stress and vibration helps. With a little imagination, many things can be done with it. Now the only time I use it is for putting a bore in the end of a long piece that can't be held any other way. Jim Don't raise the bridge, lower the water |
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