Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.

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Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.


How about a sign. "Parking $1,000 + $200 per hour" Then just send a
bill to anyone who ends up in your yard.

--

Joseph Meehan

wrote:

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

Yep they would. Try evergreen bushes, they would catch the vehicle w/o
so much chance of injury, and give you a plausible excuse (decorative
value) to defend yourself with. Otherwise, you'll have to comply with a
myriad of highway safety rules, if you put up something immovable along
the roadway.

Something really viney and thorny would work also.

Big rocks are a better solution. They are less dangerous for the drivers but
they will leave some marks the car will be wearing for a while. They also look
more natural. You can plant flowers around them, land scape lighting etc.
That is what the ritzy developments do here to keep people from driving around
their gates and still not have an ugly fence.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

why dont you document some of the speeding/damage with a video camera and
threaten to sue the city..

randy

one road I travel, its a curvy shortcut to the suburban secondary little
Post Office, road is marked as scenic bicycle trail - normal unmarked
residential speed limits are 30 mph here and they, the city, put up 25mph
signs and within a year put up big speed bumps every so often and 15mph
signs at the bumps which are ..extra humpy-bumpy... or something,, and
additional 15mph signs at the curves. I assume neighborhood complaints
mailed to the appropriate city street sign department or area city
commissioner got attention.

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Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.

"Greg" wrote in message
...
Big rocks are a better solution. They are less dangerous for the drivers
but
they will leave some marks the car will be wearing for a while. They also
look
more natural. You can plant flowers around them, land scape lighting etc.
That is what the ritzy developments do here to keep people from driving
around
their gates and still not have an ugly fence.

Yup! Rocks, not big enough to kill anyone, just big enough to screw up their
car when they drive over them. Basket ball size. Add some landscaping, a few
small bushes and some flowers. After they get towed off your rocks you can
get their insurance information for the damage caused to your landscape.
Those proffesional landscape companies really charge some big bucks!
You may even make a few dollars in the end!
Greg

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Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.


Plant trees(the bigger,the better),we need the Oxygen too.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

wrote in message
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Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I'm not a lawyer but I'd not be surprised if someone sued you and actually
won. On an episonde of "Extreme Makeover- Home Edition" they has a house
with a similar problem. They installed barriers that would pop up once a
sensor was crossed. Sounds like a very expensive solution though.

Think: landscaping!

A few good sized shrubs would help as well as some rocks. Make the rocks
large enough to cause some damage, about 12 to 18" high. Idealy enough that
they would even get stuck so you could call the police or at least take a
photo of the car and plate so the police can go after them.

You also want to check where your property line actually starts. In most
cases, the town right of way extends from a few to twenty feet from the road
edge. If you obstruct that portion the town could possibly come after you
for something.

It would also be good if you can document the traffic and the speed. That
would put the liability backk to the police and highway department to
actually do something to enforce the laws.

You can always park a junk car right on the curve!

They use big rocks here. Things that weigh a significant part of the weight of
a car but being low they duplicate the things used in NHTSC tests with less
than half the kinetics, so the car does OK.
A post can slice through a car.

Yup! Rocks, not big enough to kill anyone, just big enough to screw up their
car when they drive over them. Basket ball size. Add some landscaping, a few
small bushes and some flowers. After they get towed off your rocks you can
get their insurance information for the damage caused to your landscape.
Those proffesional landscape companies really charge some big bucks!
You may even make a few dollars in the end!
Greg

Thought about moving?............For The Kids Sake?

This is not a flame type suggestion. I too live on a curve..........
On the outside, just like you describe. However I am in a fairly snug
little neighborhood so Speeds are not terribly high so far. I just
moved here in may and have already felt that nagging feeling about
living on a curve. cars coming up my street shine their lights right
into the bedroom window too..................Dark shades help with
that. But the big tree that sit's near the property line is a bit of a
help too.




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wrote:

Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

Of course they will try to sue you, but if the fence is on your
property, and not on the road's right-of-way or easement, they will lose.

I would put up a fence, using a couple of 8" concrete posts with about
three strands of 3/4" wire rope stretched loosely between them.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.

Buy a big old car or pickup for about $200, park it just inside your
property line with a "FOR SALE $1200" sign on it. When someone crashes
into it, you can collect about $1000 from their insurance company and
use the proceeds to buy another one and pocket the difference.

Bob

Got any friends in the military? See if they can get you some "Land
Mines". Install the land mines on your own property, right at the
curve. If a car lands on your property, it won't last long, and will
be blown to shreads. After the police remove the bodily remains, you

Doesn't work, all that does is lift the 1.5 tons of moving metal about
6 feet in the air, and separate the parts. They still slam into your
house, and now they're on fire.

On 11/30/2004 12:14 PM US(ET), took fingers to keys, and
typed the following:

Got any friends in the military? See if they can get you some "Land
Mines". Install the land mines on your own property, right at the
curve. If a car lands on your property, it won't last long, and will
be blown to shreads. After the police remove the bodily remains, you



Doesn't work, all that does is lift the 1.5 tons of moving metal about
6 feet in the air, and separate the parts. They still slam into your
house, and now they're on fire.

Not only that, but the local laws would probably make you put up signs
with the red skull and crossbones and the words, "Achtung!" "Minen", all
over the lawn.

Around here the city will put up a guardrail, but it usually takes
repeated demands before they will do it. Suggest to them that a
guardrail will protect both you and the drivers who go off the road. If
you can document that you notified them of a hazard, and they did
nothing about it, you are in a good position to sue them when the
problem recurs. Building a barrier or fence yourself, with the intent
of inflicting harm, is not a good idea.

wrote:

Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.


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William Brown wrote:
Around here the city will put up a guardrail, but it usually takes
repeated demands before they will do it. Suggest to them that a
guardrail will protect both you and the drivers who go off the road. If
you can document that you notified them of a hazard, and they did
nothing about it, you are in a good position to sue them when the
problem recurs. Building a barrier or fence yourself, with the intent
of inflicting harm, is not a good idea.


The intent would be to protect your family from reckless drivers. Keep
the barrier off of the ROW and take minimal precautions to not make it
dangerous and there should be no liability issues at all.

Actually, just don't make it intentionally more dangerous than necessary
should be enough to avoid liability. For example, iron spikes sticking
3 feet out of the the ground at a 20 degree angle and point at the road
might not be a good idea, nor would the Claymore mines someone else
mentioned.

The reason the city has to be so careful about the barriers they put up
is because their barriers on in the ROW. Your barrier will not be.

Bob

On 29 Nov 2004 10:39:48 -0800, wrote:

Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

A fence is probably okay if you meet your local codes, but landscaping
may be a better idea. A berm, topped with significant shrubbery, will
stop cars and is likely legal to have closer to the road than a fence
(check you local codes though).

Though I like the parking charge idea...

Jeff

Get some big landscape rocks and install them where the cars enter your
lawn. After a few cars get torn up it will stop.



"Jeff Cochran" wrote in message
...
On 29 Nov 2004 10:39:48 -0800, wrote:

Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

A fence is probably okay if you meet your local codes, but landscaping
may be a better idea. A berm, topped with significant shrubbery, will
stop cars and is likely legal to have closer to the road than a fence
(check you local codes though).

Though I like the parking charge idea...

Jeff

if someone does get stuck in your yard, but a lean on the car and insist it
stays on your property until all damage is paided if that is possible.


"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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wrote in message
oups.com...
Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I'm not a lawyer but I'd not be surprised if someone sued you and actually
won. On an episonde of "Extreme Makeover- Home Edition" they has a house
with a similar problem. They installed barriers that would pop up once a
sensor was crossed. Sounds like a very expensive solution though.

Think: landscaping!

A few good sized shrubs would help as well as some rocks. Make the rocks
large enough to cause some damage, about 12 to 18" high. Idealy enough
that
they would even get stuck so you could call the police or at least take a
photo of the car and plate so the police can go after them.

You also want to check where your property line actually starts. In most
cases, the town right of way extends from a few to twenty feet from the
road
edge. If you obstruct that portion the town could possibly come after you
for something.

It would also be good if you can document the traffic and the speed. That
would put the liability backk to the police and highway department to
actually do something to enforce the laws.

You can always park a junk car right on the curve!

Yeah, and nothing left of anyone to sue you either

wrote in message
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On 29 Nov 2004 10:39:48 -0800, wrote:

Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.


Got any friends in the military? See if they can get you some "Land
Mines". Install the land mines on your own property, right at the
curve. If a car lands on your property, it won't last long, and will
be blown to shreads. After the police remove the bodily remains, you
can collect the pieces of metal and sell them for scrap, . The cost
of steel is high right now, so you should come out ahead to pay for
the cost of lawn damage. The other plus of this method is that you
just got another careless driver off the road, possibly saving someone
else's life.

No good around here, has to be multiple fatalities before any traffic safty
device is implemented


"William Brown" wrote in message
...
Around here the city will put up a guardrail, but it usually takes
repeated demands before they will do it. Suggest to them that a
guardrail will protect both you and the drivers who go off the road. If
you can document that you notified them of a hazard, and they did
nothing about it, you are in a good position to sue them when the
problem recurs. Building a barrier or fence yourself, with the intent
of inflicting harm, is not a good idea.

wrote:

Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.


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wrote in message
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Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.


This is Turtle.

I had a uncle that had the same problem with car coming up in his front yard and
cutting up the yard and cutting deep rutts in the yard . He check out the laws
on building a car stop to keep car off your property in the state of Texas and
Louisiana. Both states have law on this but what make the laws and you getting
sued for it is this. Put a row of rail road rail steel angled back toward the
house in a row all the way across the frontage. then back 5 feet toward the
house put a row of rail road rail steel straight up. Put all the rails in
concrete and put a potted plant on top of everyone. they are called potted plant
holders to have growing plants in. If you don't call them a car stop, you can
not be sued for having them for they are yard plant holders for the look of the
house. It would be the same as a bird bath in the front yard and want to sue you
for running over it.

Now you will not have to worry about cars getting to your house for the first
row slows the car down and the second row stops the cars. When they land there
they don't drive off for you have to get a wrecker to lift the car off the rails
and if you pull the car off them Half the car stays there and the other half
goes with the wrecker. You just don't drive through your yard and drive off with
out a wrecker to come get it. also if a wrecker operator see's the damage on the
car he is suppose to call the law to write it up and have his insurance company
to replace your potted plant holders and also landscape the yard where the car
went. My uncle was having about 6 to 8 a year coming up in his yard by missing
the turn off at the end of the road. he put the rails in and he had 3 in 2
months hit the rails and he had them there for another 15 years and only had 2
more hit them in 15 years. The drunks and speeders learn where your trap is and
know to slow down for that turn or your insurance company may drop you.

Now one thing here to do and check it out to be right and that is have your
rails on your land and not city or state property. City -- they own the first 10
feet from the street. State has different foot amounts from the road and find
this out and have your rails on your property for sure. All the drunks, Here
Hold my beer, and watch this types, and speeders started call his turn '' Steel
Turn ''. The only ones he would get is the new drunks and speeders in town.

TURTLE

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On 29 Nov 2004 10:39:48 -0800, wrote:

Any idea on what I can do about people driving too fast and sliding
around a curve landing in my front yard? The speedlimit is 35 but they
drive about 60. I got home to find huge ruts in my yard the other day.

I have talked to the county executive , judge madjestrate, highway
department. I have written letters and attached photos.

I was thinking of putting a fence up using 6x6 posts in concrete but
wondered if somehow someone would try to sue me if they got hurt.

I have a daughter and a son on the way and their bedroom faces the
road. I am scared to death someone is going to end up in my house!

I can attach pictures if that helps. I am just so fed up right now I
dont know what to do.


Got any friends in the military? See if they can get you some "Land
Mines". Install the land mines on your own property, right at the
curve. If a car lands on your property, it won't last long, and will
be blown to shreads.

And so will your home's windows,along with nearby neighbors homes,autos.
I'm sure a hailstorm of glass shards will increase your family' safety.


More useless UseNet advice.



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jyanik-at-kua.net