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Magic Chef Gas Range model:6498VTV



 
 
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Old August 13th 04, 06:39 PM
youngguns76
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Hello,

We have an older Magic Chef Gas Range model:6498VTV that has the F1
code (again) sigh.

I have read previous post to disconnect the ribbon cable to see if the
fault is the Touch Pad or the ERC (controller) I believe.

My problem is how do you disconnect the touch pad.

I have been looking all over the net for some schematics on doing this
but could not find any. I have some drawings from:

http://www.partselect.com/ModelFrame...en/Hood&Mark=3

and I found some other parts with pictures on this site:
http://www.repairclinic.com/0080.asp

Please, help with any assitance. We have paid through the nose before
to have a Maytag Technician repair the unit once costing about $500CDN
and now the same problem again. Of course Maytag won't replace it for
free, they say we have to reaplace the unit again. Which means
another $500 for (parts and labour) What a scam.

I don't want to pay another Technician to come and determine its the
controller again if I can do it myself.

Thanks.
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Old August 13th 04, 08:45 PM
William W. Plummer
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youngguns76 wrote:

Hello,

We have an older Magic Chef Gas Range model:6498VTV that has the F1
code (again) sigh.

I have read previous post to disconnect the ribbon cable to see if the
fault is the Touch Pad or the ERC (controller) I believe.

My problem is how do you disconnect the touch pad.

I have been looking all over the net for some schematics on doing this
but could not find any. I have some drawings from:

http://www.partselect.com/ModelFrame...en/Hood&Mark=3

and I found some other parts with pictures on this site:
http://www.repairclinic.com/0080.asp

Please, help with any assitance. We have paid through the nose before
to have a Maytag Technician repair the unit once costing about $500CDN
and now the same problem again. Of course Maytag won't replace it for
free, they say we have to reaplace the unit again. Which means
another $500 for (parts and labour) What a scam.

I don't want to pay another Technician to come and determine its the
controller again if I can do it myself.

Thanks.

I hate my Magic Chef Range. The F1 code is one of its many failings and
Magic Chef support doesn't know anything about it. They say to call
a repairman who will replace the control board.

I asked around about F1. It indicates the microprocessor is unhappy,
probably because of excess heat from using the broiler. The cu
unplug the range for a full day, long enough to discharge the capacitive
memory in it. I've done that twice now. The second time was over a
year ago.
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Old August 14th 04, 01:25 PM
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(youngguns76) wrote in message om...

Hi,

Hello,

We have an older Magic Chef Gas Range model:6498VTV that has the F1
code (again) sigh.

I have read previous post to disconnect the ribbon cable to see if the
fault is the Touch Pad or the ERC (controller) I believe.


How to test many brands of Ranges that are flashing a F1 fault code:
You have either a bad ERC (clock) or a bad touch pad.

Disconnect power to stove
Gain access to the back of the clock (electronic range control or
ERC).
Unplug the touch pad ribbon connector from the ERC. This will be a
flat wire approx. 1 1/2" to 2" wide.
Make sure everything is clear and will not short out when power is
turned back on.
Turn power back on to stove.
Watch for the F1 and listen for the beep.
If you get the F1 and beep, replace the ERC.
If after approx. 30 minutes you do NOT get the F1 and hear the beep,
replace the touch pad.
NOTE: Some models incorporate the touch pad and the clock as one part.
* We have seen a few of the newer Maytag ranges with a F1 fault code
and the problem was the oven temp sensor, check carefully the wires to
and from the oven temp sensor!! This has been a new occurrence to us
in the last 2 years or so.

My problem is how do you disconnect the touch pad.


See small ribbon on the side of the clock, this will come apart.
Most F1's have been the key panal itself, but the clock and sensor are
possible as well.

Of course Maytag won't replace it for
free, they say we have to reaplace the unit again.


If the part(s) are over the warranty period, Maytag doesn't -have- to
do anything.

Which means
another $500 for (parts and labour) What a scam.


Part(s), service call, labour and taxes...I don't see a scam?!?!

I don't want to pay another Technician to come and determine its the
controller again if I can do it myself.

Thanks.


http://www.pcappliancerepair.com/cgi...8-60&brand=MAC
Touch-Pad/Membrane (White)

http://www.pcappliancerepair.com/cgi...6-60&brand=MAC
Electronic Clock Assembly (Black)

http://www.pcappliancerepair.com/cgi...9-60&brand=MAC
Sensor Kit

*Sometime* a hair dryer blown on the key panal will allow it to work a
bit longer, not an repair but an get by route if needed.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
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Old September 1st 04, 01:09 PM
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I have the same Magic Chef 6498VTV gas range, and the same F1 beeping
problem. Instead of replacing the ERC or the touch pad, is it possible
to simply disconnect the speaker? I assume that there is a speaker since
the *$%# beep is so loud. My other assumption is that the F1 code is a
false alarm, and all the functions on the panel will continue to work
after the speaker is disconnected. If so, where is the speaker located?
Also, where can I get a copy of the user's manual for this model?
Thanks.

jeff wrote:

(youngguns76) wrote in message om...

Hi,

Hello,

We have an older Magic Chef Gas Range model:6498VTV that has the F1
code (again) sigh.

I have read previous post to disconnect the ribbon cable to see if the
fault is the Touch Pad or the ERC (controller) I believe.


How to test many brands of Ranges that are flashing a F1 fault code:
You have either a bad ERC (clock) or a bad touch pad.

Disconnect power to stove
Gain access to the back of the clock (electronic range control or
ERC).
Unplug the touch pad ribbon connector from the ERC. This will be a
flat wire approx. 1 1/2" to 2" wide.
Make sure everything is clear and will not short out when power is
turned back on.
Turn power back on to stove.
Watch for the F1 and listen for the beep.
If you get the F1 and beep, replace the ERC.
If after approx. 30 minutes you do NOT get the F1 and hear the beep,
replace the touch pad.
NOTE: Some models incorporate the touch pad and the clock as one part.
* We have seen a few of the newer Maytag ranges with a F1 fault code
and the problem was the oven temp sensor, check carefully the wires to
and from the oven temp sensor!! This has been a new occurrence to us
in the last 2 years or so.

My problem is how do you disconnect the touch pad.


See small ribbon on the side of the clock, this will come apart.
Most F1's have been the key panal itself, but the clock and sensor are
possible as well.

Of course Maytag won't replace it for
free, they say we have to reaplace the unit again.


If the part(s) are over the warranty period, Maytag doesn't -have- to
do anything.

Which means
another $500 for (parts and labour) What a scam.


Part(s), service call, labour and taxes...I don't see a scam?!?!

I don't want to pay another Technician to come and determine its the
controller again if I can do it myself.

Thanks.


http://www.pcappliancerepair.com/cgi...8-60&brand=MAC
Touch-Pad/Membrane (White)

http://www.pcappliancerepair.com/cgi...6-60&brand=MAC
Electronic Clock Assembly (Black)

http://www.pcappliancerepair.com/cgi...9-60&brand=MAC
Sensor Kit

*Sometime* a hair dryer blown on the key panal will allow it to work a
bit longer, not an repair but an get by route if needed.

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

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Old September 2nd 04, 06:14 PM
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Thanks for the response, Jeff. Since I would replace the oven rather
than repair it for $$$, disconnecting the buzzer and assume everything
will continue to work is a reasonable risk. If after disconnecting the
buzzer, there indeed is something wrong with the oven, I will throw it
out and not any worse off.

How difficult is it to get access to the clock assembly and the buzzer
board? Thanks.

jeff wrote:

wrote in message ...
I have the same Magic Chef 6498VTV gas range, and the same F1 beeping
problem. Instead of replacing the ERC or the touch pad, is it possible
to simply disconnect the speaker? I assume that there is a speaker since
the *$%# beep is so loud. My other assumption is that the F1 code is a
false alarm, and all the functions on the panel will continue to work
after the speaker is disconnected. If so, where is the speaker located?
Also, where can I get a copy of the user's manual for this model?
Thanks.


Hi,

An F1 code is often a stuck/sticky key panal....but can be a bad clock
or bad oven temp sensor as well.

Instead of replacing the ERC or the touch pad, is it possible
to simply disconnect the speaker?


Usually yes, it is on the backside of the clock assy....
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=709249
Clock control

The buzzer will -probably- look similier to the one on this one...
http://www.repairclinic.com/dbimages...0/00203059.jpg

My other assumption is that the F1 code is a
false alarm, and all the functions on the panel will continue to work
after the speaker is disconnected


We can hope!

Also, where can I get a copy of the user's manual for this model?


MC & Maytag ( they own MC ) can probably help...
http://www.applianceaid.com/useandcare.html

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/

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Old July 11th 13, 07:08 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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On Friday, September 3, 2004 6:54:07 AM UTC-4, jeff wrote:
wrote in message ...
Thanks for the response, Jeff. Since I would replace the oven rather
than repair it for $$$, disconnecting the buzzer and assume everything
will continue to work is a reasonable risk. If after disconnecting the
buzzer, there indeed is something wrong with the oven, I will throw it
out and not any worse off.

How difficult is it to get access to the clock assembly and the buzzer
board? Thanks.


Hi,

More time consuming than anything to access that clock.

Power off
Knobs off
Grates and burners off
Screws under surface burners removed so the cooktop can be proped up at the front
Screws removed from under the clock panal ( open oven door )
Screws removed from on top of the clock panal
The panal with the clock will roll out towards you and off

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/


Jeff,

I realize that you probably won't get this since the last post was in 2004, but I want to say thanks. I haven't had a gas range in a long time and I was having a hell of a time figuring out how to get off the front of my range... thank you for the tip about the screws under the surface burner. All my previous gas ranges had "flip up burners" if that's what it's called, where the whole top tipped up.

Jon
Pittsburgh, pa
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Old July 11th 13, 08:03 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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On Friday, August 13, 2004 10:39:40 AM UTC-7, youngguns76 wrote:
Hello,

We have an older Magic Chef Gas Range model:6498VTV that has the F1
code (again) sigh.

I have read previous post to disconnect the ribbon cable to see if the
fault is the Touch Pad or the ERC (controller) I believe.

My problem is how do you disconnect the touch pad.

I have been looking all over the net for some schematics on doing this
but could not find any. I have some drawings from:

http://www.partselect.com/ModelFrame...en/Hood&Mark=3

and I found some other parts with pictures on this site:
http://www.repairclinic.com/0080.asp

Please, help with any assitance. We have paid through the nose before
to have a Maytag Technician repair the unit once costing about $500CDN
and now the same problem again. Of course Maytag won't replace it for
free, they say we have to reaplace the unit again. Which means
another $500 for (parts and labour) What a scam.

I don't want to pay another Technician to come and determine its the
controller again if I can do it myself.

Thanks.


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Old July 12th 13, 12:27 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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2004 or not, it sure is heart warming that someone
says thank you. Now, later, or ever. Jeff probably
still reads the list, maybe under different ISP, or
different user name. You sure brightened my day.
Thanks, mate.

Incidentally, Jeff from Appliance Aid has given a
lot of help to a lot of people over the years. I hope
he is prosperous, happily married, and has many
loving children and grand children.
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Learn more about Jesus
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wrote in message ...


jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/


Jeff,

I realize that you probably won't get this since the last post was in 2004, but I want to say thanks. I haven't had a gas range in a long time and I was having a hell of a time figuring out how to get off the front of my range... thank you for the tip about the screws under the surface burner. All my previous gas ranges had "flip up burners" if that's what it's called, where the whole top tipped up.

Jon
Pittsburgh, pa

 




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