I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.

--
Illegal is a big sick bird.

On 2/13/2017 5:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.


There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:07:55 -0000, Frank "frank wrote:

On 2/13/2017 5:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.


There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

Yes I can see it being more efficient for the mail people, although bloody inconvenient for the home owners (people who have them here to stop dogs eating the letters never remember to check them and get letters a week late). And my original point, doesn't mail get stolen?

--
Customer explaining flooded car to insurance claim investigator:
"It didn't look that deep at first glance - it only came half way up the ducks."

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 7:25:03 PM UTC-6, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:07:55 -0000, Frank "frank wrote:

There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

Yes I can see it being more efficient for the mail people, although bloody inconvenient for the home owners (people who have them here to stop dogs eating the letters never remember to check them and get letters a week late). And my original point, doesn't mail get stolen?


No one forced the home owner to buy a house that the mail box is
at the end of their driveway. Mail does get stolen on occasion
but not that often.

Are you saying people don't check their mail boxes if it's at the
end of their driveway but perhaps once a week where you live?

On 2/13/17 4:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.

Probably just because they see what's in their mailboxes and
social pressure.
It is common in parts of rural Nebraska to have several mailboxes
grouped on
their own posts. It will be up to the ranchers to get their mail from
there.
There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might say
something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 20:07:55 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:

On 2/13/2017 5:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.


There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

Brits don't know how Americans get Air Mail in the Everglades.

https://tinyurl.com/z9jjkgz

Or Alaska https://tinyurl.com/hbshtrm

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 8:31:03 PM UTC-6, Dean Hoffman wrote:

It is common in parts of rural Nebraska to have several mailboxes
grouped on
their own posts. It will be up to the ranchers to get their mail from
there.
There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might say
something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.


Last time I was in Nevada and Utah driving we'd see signs that just
said Ranch Road 30, etc. They didn't have addresses
like 123 Main Street or RR 10, Box 1.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 03:01:40 -0000, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 20:07:55 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:

On 2/13/2017 5:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.


There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

Brits don't know how Americans get Air Mail in the Everglades.

https://tinyurl.com/z9jjkgz

Or Alaska https://tinyurl.com/hbshtrm

I assume that's a joke.


--
"His idea of safe sex is an `X' spray-painted on the rump of animals that are known to kick."

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:30:58 -0000, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 2/13/17 4:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.

Probably just because they see what's in their mailboxes and
social pressure.
It is common in parts of rural Nebraska to have several mailboxes
grouped on
their own posts. It will be up to the ranchers to get their mail from
there.
There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might say
something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.

If I lived in one of those ranches, I'd have a lock on the box!

--
The modest young lass had just purchased some lingerie and asked if she might have the sentence "If you can read this, you're too damned close" embroidered on her panties and bra.
"Yes madam," said the clerk. "I'm quite certain that could be done. Would you prefer block or script letters ?"
"Braille," she replied.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:30:58 -0000, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 2/13/17 4:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.

Probably just because they see what's in their mailboxes and
social pressure.
It is common in parts of rural Nebraska to have several mailboxes
grouped on
their own posts. It will be up to the ranchers to get their mail from
there.
There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might say
something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.

What happens if you get a parcel delivered that's quite large?

--
The modest young lass had just purchased some lingerie and asked if she might have the sentence "If you can read this, you're too damned close" embroidered on her panties and bra.
"Yes madam," said the clerk. "I'm quite certain that could be done. Would you prefer block or script letters ?"
"Braille," she replied.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:35:24 -0000, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 7:25:03 PM UTC-6, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:07:55 -0000, Frank "frank wrote:

There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

Yes I can see it being more efficient for the mail people, although bloody inconvenient for the home owners (people who have them here to stop dogs eating the letters never remember to check them and get letters a week late). And my original point, doesn't mail get stolen?


No one forced the home owner to buy a house that the mail box is
at the end of their driveway. Mail does get stolen on occasion
but not that often.

Are you saying people don't check their mail boxes if it's at the
end of their driveway but perhaps once a week where you live?

In the UK, people sometimes (only 1 in 100) have boxes attached to the outside of their house (not at the street), just to avoid stuff being put into the house (because the dog might eat it). They often forget to check it (as would I if I had one), because the mail doesn't appear inside your home on the carpet so you notice it, you actually have to remember to keep checking the box.

--
If our service isn't up to your standards, please lower your standards.

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 10:53:23 PM UTC-5, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:35:24 -0000, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 7:25:03 PM UTC-6, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:07:55 -0000, Frank "frank wrote:

There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

Yes I can see it being more efficient for the mail people, although bloody inconvenient for the home owners (people who have them here to stop dogs eating the letters never remember to check them and get letters a week late). And my original point, doesn't mail get stolen?


No one forced the home owner to buy a house that the mail box is
at the end of their driveway. Mail does get stolen on occasion
but not that often.

Are you saying people don't check their mail boxes if it's at the
end of their driveway but perhaps once a week where you live?

In the UK, people sometimes (only 1 in 100) have boxes attached to the outside of their house (not at the street), just to avoid stuff being put into the house (because the dog might eat it). They often forget to check it (as would I if I had one), because the mail doesn't appear inside your home on the carpet so you notice it, you actually have to remember to keep checking the box.


1 - How do you know that these 1 in 100 people "often" forget to check their mail? Do you
know them all? Do they publish their forgetfulness in the local paper?

2 - How stupid would one have to be to see a mailbox on the outside of their house and
forget to check it? And *often* forget to check it? Now that's really stupid.

We've had a mailbox on the outside of our house for over 35 years. We check it every day
except for Sunday. It's really not that hard to remember. See if you can understand this
process:

Step 1: See Mailbox
Step 2: Think: "Did you check for mail today?"
Step 3: If no, check it. If yes, don't bother.

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 9:51:29 PM UTC-6, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:30:58 -0000, Dean Hoffman wrote:

There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might say
something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.

What happens if you get a parcel delivered that's quite large?


I guess they come to your door to deliver or you make arrangements
to pick up your package at the nearest town.

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 10:10:36 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 10:53:23 PM UTC-5, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:35:24 -0000, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

Are you saying people don't check their mail boxes if it's at the
end of their driveway but perhaps once a week where you live?

In the UK, people sometimes (only 1 in 100) have boxes attached to the outside of their house (not at the street), just to avoid stuff being put into the house (because the dog might eat it). They often forget to check it (as would I if I had one), because the mail doesn't appear inside your home on the carpet so you notice it, you actually have to remember to keep checking the box.


1 - How do you know that these 1 in 100 people "often" forget to check their mail? Do you
know them all? Do they publish their forgetfulness in the local paper?

It does kinda silly and made up, doesn't it? I'd venture a guess
that most people get some sort of mail each day. That might be
junk mail, a letter, catalog, or a bill. He's trying to make us
believe that everybody that doesn't get their mail through a slot
in the door has Alzhiemers and completely forget to check their
outside mail boxes.

2 - How stupid would one have to be to see a mailbox on the outside of their house and
forget to check it? And *often* forget to check it? Now that's really stupid.

Yep! Not too bright when it comes to getting their mail, are they?

We've had a mailbox on the outside of our house for over 35 years. We check it every day
except for Sunday. It's really not that hard to remember. See if you can understand this
process:

Step 1: See Mailbox
Step 2: Think: "Did you check for mail today?"
Step 3: If no, check it. If yes, don't bother.

My house is 90 years old and so are the surrounding houses.
Every single one has a mail box on the outside, just a step
or two outside the front door. It ain't rocket science to
remember to check to see if you have mail that day.

On 02/13/2017 05:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids
steal everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox
INSIDE the house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door).
Surely kids are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's
right on the street.


As far as I know, I've never had my mail stolen...but it's just junkmail
anyway.

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 10:51:29 PM UTC-5, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:30:58 -0000, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 2/13/17 4:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.

Probably just because they see what's in their mailboxes and
social pressure.
It is common in parts of rural Nebraska to have several mailboxes
grouped on
their own posts. It will be up to the ranchers to get their mail from
there.
There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might say
something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.

What happens if you get a parcel delivered that's quite large?

I have a mailbox at the street. I've never (as far as I know) had
mail stolen from it.

If I get a package that's too big for the mailbox, the carrier leaves
it on the porch. I don't live in a crime-ridden hive, as apparently
you do. The houses on my street are generally about 40 meters apart,
although some are more like 80 meters. It would be a lot of legwork
for kids to come around messing with mailboxes (which is a federal
offense worth up to a $5000 fine and/or 5 years in prison--although I
doubt they'd sentence dumb kids to more than a token penalty).

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:19:39 -0000
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote:

I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids
steal everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox
INSIDE the house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door).
Surely kids are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's
right on the street.


They only steal once unless they like hot lead in their belly.

ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 9:51:29 PM UTC-6, James Wilkinson
Sword wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:30:58 -0000, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might
say something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.

What happens if you get a parcel delivered that's quite large?


I guess they come to your door to deliver or you make arrangements
to pick up your package at the nearest town.

My mail carrier comes down the driveway and hand delivers it , or leaves
it in a designated place at the front of the shop . A jar of (our bees')
honey , a half-pint of jam , a couple of minutes of conversation , Aaron has
become a good friend too .
--
Snag

the post office wants to move to a big neighborhood box. each home gets its own locked box, as part of a large group of boxes.

this saves tons of time for the carrier,'

i suppose residents could pay to get their mail at their door.

my dad in phoenix gets his mail this way. he is near 90 and enjoys taking his handicap scooter to the central mailbox....

there are some big boxes for oversized stuff, the carrier puts a key to the over sized box in the recipents usual box.

dad seems satisfied

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:57:36 -0800 (PST)
bob haller wrote:

the post office wants to move to a big neighborhood box. each home
gets its own locked box, as part of a large group of boxes.

this saves tons of time for the carrier,'

i suppose residents could pay to get their mail at their door.

my dad in phoenix gets his mail this way. he is near 90 and enjoys
taking his handicap scooter to the central mailbox....

there are some big boxes for oversized stuff, the carrier puts a key
to the over sized box in the recipents usual box.

dad seems satisfied


USPS lost $9 Billion mostly due to fat lazy workers
and outdated ideas on how to do things.
Oh yea and you can not fire one no matter what.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:57:36 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:


the post office wants to move to a big neighborhood box.
each home gets its own locked box, as part of a large group of boxes.
this saves tons of time for the carrier,'
i suppose residents could pay to get their mail at their door.
my dad in phoenix gets his mail this way. he is near 90 and enjoys
taking his handicap scooter to the central mailbox....
there are some big boxes for oversized stuff, the carrier puts a key
to the over sized box in the recipents usual box.
dad seems satisfied


This is what Canada Post is moving toward -
over much crying and protest from the folks who think
that mail delivery to their door is a constitutional right.
.... it doesn't help when they install the "super malibox"
in a poor location - as was the case with some much-publicized
early efforts.
I have personally seen one case of rural mail theft - I found a
bunch of mail in the ditch - torn open - it was an Amish farm family
- I suspect that the thief was looking for cash or cheques ?
John T.

Per James Wilkinson Sword:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal everyone's mail?"

Theft from mailboxes happens but, here in the suburbs of Philadelphia,
it's rare.

When I visited relatives in the UK about 10 years ago, I was surprised
at the high level of perceived residential theft risk: bars on windows,
my cousin's husband felt the need to chain his bike even when it was
inside of their locked garage, and so-on-and-so-forth.

Ditto Germany.
--
Pete Cresswell

Per bob haller:
the central mailbox....

there are some big boxes for oversized stuff, the carrier puts a key to the over sized box in the recipents usual box.

Surprisingly (to me....) that idea has some appeal: people get to talk
to each other a little bit when they meet while checking mail...
--
Pete Cresswell

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:49:45 -0000, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 10:10:36 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 10:53:23 PM UTC-5, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:35:24 -0000, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

Are you saying people don't check their mail boxes if it's at the
end of their driveway but perhaps once a week where you live?

In the UK, people sometimes (only 1 in 100) have boxes attached to the outside of their house (not at the street), just to avoid stuff being put into the house (because the dog might eat it). They often forget to check it (as would I if I had one), because the mail doesn't appear inside your home on the carpet so you notice it, you actually have to remember to keep checking the box.


1 - How do you know that these 1 in 100 people "often" forget to check their mail? Do you
know them all? Do they publish their forgetfulness in the local paper?

It does kinda silly and made up, doesn't it? I'd venture a guess
that most people get some sort of mail each day. That might be
junk mail, a letter, catalog, or a bill. He's trying to make us
believe that everybody that doesn't get their mail through a slot
in the door has Alzhiemers and completely forget to check their
outside mail boxes.

Most people do not bother checking mail every day if it's in a box. But if it's flopped into your hallway, you'll see it.

2 - How stupid would one have to be to see a mailbox on the outside of their house and
forget to check it? And *often* forget to check it? Now that's really stupid.

Yep! Not too bright when it comes to getting their mail, are they?

Why bother checking it every day if you don't get important mail every day?

We've had a mailbox on the outside of our house for over 35 years. We check it every day
except for Sunday. It's really not that hard to remember. See if you can understand this
process:

Step 1: See Mailbox
Step 2: Think: "Did you check for mail today?"
Step 3: If no, check it. If yes, don't bother.

My house is 90 years old and so are the surrounding houses.
Every single one has a mail box on the outside, just a step
or two outside the front door. It ain't rocket science to
remember to check to see if you have mail that day.

It's unnecessary. My letters appear inside my house, I see them if they're there. I don't have to go outside, unlock the box, and check to find just junk mail.

--
Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day. Teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks, months, maybe years.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:01:33 -0500
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

Per James Wilkinson Sword:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids
steal everyone's mail?"

Theft from mailboxes happens but, here in the suburbs of Philadelphia,
it's rare.

When I visited relatives in the UK about 10 years ago, I was surprised
at the high level of perceived residential theft risk: bars on
windows, my cousin's husband felt the need to chain his bike even
when it was inside of their locked garage, and so-on-and-so-forth.

Ditto Germany.

Many invaders...AKA undocumented muslims

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:04:27 -0500
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

Per bob haller:
the central mailbox....

there are some big boxes for oversized stuff, the carrier puts a key
to the over sized box in the recipents usual box.

Surprisingly (to me....) that idea has some appeal: people get to talk
to each other a little bit when they meet while checking mail...

and will they sing Kumbaya ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJMtn6IJeE

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:01:33 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote in

Per James Wilkinson Sword:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal everyone's mail?"

Theft from mailboxes happens but, here in the suburbs of Philadelphia,
it's rare.

When I visited relatives in the UK about 10 years ago, I was surprised
at the high level of perceived residential theft risk: bars on windows,
my cousin's husband felt the need to chain his bike even when it was
inside of their locked garage, and so-on-and-so-forth.

Ditto Germany.

That's whey Muslims love to go to the UK and KrautLand. The fit right
in.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 10:03:52 -0500, wrote:

I have personally seen one case of rural mail theft - I found a
bunch of mail in the ditch

A few years ago, I was following behind a snow plow on a rural state
route. Everyone on the road had a rural mailbox mounted near the
road. Many of them were plastic boxes that fit over a 4x4 that is
cemented into the soil. The show plow was shooting a significant
amount of snow up and to the right. When it came to one particular
mailbox, the whole plastic thing was lifted off the 4x4 and shot about
20 feet into the air. The box opened and the next thing I saw was
about a dozen letters floating down into the ditch like confetti. I
couldn't stop thinking about what the home onwner would think after
finding his mailbox in the ditch with his mail scattered all over the
place. Vandals? Theft? I doubt a department of transportation snow
plow driver would be the first suspect.

On 2/14/2017 3:48 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 10:51:29 PM UTC-5, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:30:58 -0000, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 2/13/17 4:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the street.

Probably just because they see what's in their mailboxes and
social pressure.
It is common in parts of rural Nebraska to have several mailboxes
grouped on
their own posts. It will be up to the ranchers to get their mail from
there.
There isn't delivery to individual houses.
There might also be a post there with signs pointing to the
individual ranches.
Each sign would be a single board cut to make an arrow. It might say
something
like Too Poor Ranch 12 miles.

What happens if you get a parcel delivered that's quite large?

I have a mailbox at the street. I've never (as far as I know) had
mail stolen from it.

If I get a package that's too big for the mailbox, the carrier leaves
it on the porch. I don't live in a crime-ridden hive, as apparently
you do. The houses on my street are generally about 40 meters apart,
although some are more like 80 meters. It would be a lot of legwork
for kids to come around messing with mailboxes (which is a federal
offense worth up to a $5000 fine and/or 5 years in prison--although I
doubt they'd sentence dumb kids to more than a token penalty).

Cindy Hamilton


I had mail stolen a few times over the years. I finally got a heavy duty
locking box. Mail theft seems to be an increasing problem in cities.

On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 10:01:44 AM UTC-6, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per James Wilkinson Sword:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal everyone's mail?"

Theft from mailboxes happens but, here in the suburbs of Philadelphia,
it's rare.

When I visited relatives in the UK about 10 years ago, I was surprised
at the high level of perceived residential theft risk: bars on windows,
my cousin's husband felt the need to chain his bike even when it was
inside of their locked garage, and so-on-and-so-forth.

Ditto Germany.
--
Pete Cresswell


Both countries have been allowing 3rd World savages to invade for decades and I'm wondering what the out of wedlock birthrate has been for the past generation. *******s make the best thugs. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Thuggish Monster

"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in
news
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids
steal everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox
INSIDE the house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door).
Surely kids are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's
right on the street.


That's always been a concern of mine. I try to only put mail in the box a
few hours before delivery time and empty it soon after - hard to tell so
need to guess, depends on carrier and day of week. So far, so good, AFAIK.
Also, isn't the US Post Office a federal agency so wouldn't mail theft be a
federal crime? If so, maybe helps prevents it, or at least reduce it?



--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

On 14/02/2017 16:54, Joe Jones wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:01:33 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote in

Per James Wilkinson Sword:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal everyone's mail?"

Theft from mailboxes happens but, here in the suburbs of Philadelphia,
it's rare.

When I visited relatives in the UK about 10 years ago, I was surprised
at the high level of perceived residential theft risk: bars on windows,
my cousin's husband felt the need to chain his bike even when it was
inside of their locked garage, and so-on-and-so-forth.

Ditto Germany.

That's whey Muslims love to go to the UK and KrautLand. The fit right
in.

Most of the UK is *not* like that. Where I live I don't even bother to
lock the car up and have even left the front door wide open on hot
summer days many times whilst we went shopping for an hour or so.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:04:17 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 14/02/2017 16:54, Joe Jones wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:01:33 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote in

Per James Wilkinson Sword:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal everyone's mail?"

Theft from mailboxes happens but, here in the suburbs of Philadelphia,
it's rare.

When I visited relatives in the UK about 10 years ago, I was surprised
at the high level of perceived residential theft risk: bars on windows,
my cousin's husband felt the need to chain his bike even when it was
inside of their locked garage, and so-on-and-so-forth.

Ditto Germany.

That's whey Muslims love to go to the UK and KrautLand. The fit right
in.

Most of the UK is *not* like that. Where I live I don't even bother to
lock the car up and have even left the front door wide open on hot
summer days many times whilst we went shopping for an hour or so.

Same here, cities are different.

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On 14 Feb 2017 17:55:23 GMT, KenK wrote:

Also, isn't the US Post Office a federal agency so wouldn't mail theft be a
federal crime? If so, maybe helps prevents it, or at least reduce it?

Postal Inspectors are law enforcement. They investigate theft, mail
fraud, etc.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:04:17 +0000, Bod wrote:

Where I live I [...] have even left the front door wide open on hot
summer days many times whilst we went shopping for an hour or so.

Are you not worried at least about animals? (Cats, dogs, mice, rats,
raccoons, skunks, pigeons, snakes, mosquitos, wasps, crickets, ants, etc.)

On 2/13/2017 8:24 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 01:07:55 -0000, Frank "frank wrote:

On 2/13/2017 5:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
I was just watching an American film and thought, "Why don't kids steal
everyone's mail?" In the UK, most people have the mailbox INSIDE the
house (or simply a letterbox opening in the front door). Surely kids
are tempted to nick American mail, especially as it's right on the
street.


There are mailboxes on doors here too but single family homes on larger
lots will have their mailbox outside on the street. Mail-carriers drive
vehicles with steering wheels on the right (since we drive on the right,
normal are on the left) and drop off mail without leaving vehicle.

Yes I can see it being more efficient for the mail people, although
bloody inconvenient for the home owners (people who have them here to
stop dogs eating the letters never remember to check them and get
letters a week late). And my original point, doesn't mail get stolen?

Mail might get stolen. It does not happen often. The mail carrier will
also take outgoing mail and boxes have a flag on them to put up if there
is outgoing mail. We don't leave outgoing mail out overnight.

Theft problem is more serious for packages too big for the box and left
on the porch. Mail carrier as others point out will drive/carry
packages to house. Packages are also delivered by other services like
Fedex. If you don't have to sign for delivery they will just drop on
porch or driveway.

More serious to our curb mailboxes is damage by vandals or getting
struck by vehicles. Neighbor across the street has box situated such
that it has probably been accidentally hit by everyone in the
neighborhood. He's got it on a hinged post so if knocked over it can be
set up-right.

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:42:34 -0000, Mike Duffy wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:04:17 +0000, Bod wrote:

Where I live I [...] have even left the front door wide open on hot
summer days many times whilst we went shopping for an hour or so.

Are you not worried at least about animals? (Cats, dogs, mice, rats,
raccoons, skunks, pigeons, snakes, mosquitos, wasps, crickets, ants, etc.)

Cats are harmless, dogs don't tend to wander off form their owners, the smaller ones could go through windows anyway.

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Lymph (v.), to walk with a lisp.

James Wilkinson Sword posted for all of us...



What happens if you get a parcel delivered that's quite large?


The carrier delivers it to the door. Also the delivery services have a deal
with the USPS to deliver non urgent stuff.

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Tekkie

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 19:05:43 -0000
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote:

Cats are harmless,

cats make good moving targets.

On 2/14/2017 2:05 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:42:34 -0000, Mike Duffy wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:04:17 +0000, Bod wrote:

Where I live I [...] have even left the front door wide open on hot
summer days many times whilst we went shopping for an hour or so.

Are you not worried at least about animals? (Cats, dogs, mice, rats,
raccoons, skunks, pigeons, snakes, mosquitos, wasps, crickets, ants,
etc.)

Cats are harmless, dogs don't tend to wander off form their owners, the
smaller ones could go through windows anyway.


Years ago neighbor had a cat door and his son came down one morning to
see a raccoon eating cat food. Rabies is endemic here and he was lucky
it was not rabid.

I had an open garage door and neighbors dog chewed up one of my boots.
Birds would often try to nest in the garage and a few times I shut to
door to find a bird trapped in the garage.