Still waiting to hear how splicing an electrical cord onto a hardwired
smoke detector and then securing it into the receptacle with a
bracket-is so damn DANGEROUS! (other than it is a violation of some
code that no one seems to be able to document)

BTW- in some Arab countries, the code says it is not a punishable
offense for a man to have sex with a female animal, but having sex
with a male animal is punsihable by DEATH ( I would include any code
that prohibits the installation of a plug-in smoke detector- with the
above)

"misterfact" wrote in message
m...

Still waiting to hear how splicing an electrical cord onto a hardwired
smoke detector and then securing it into the receptacle with a
bracket-is so damn DANGEROUS! (other than it is a violation of some
code that no one seems to be able to document)

Buy some property _anywhere_ in the USA, pull the permits, build a house,
wire it yourself and leave out the (NFPA 72 required) 120v/with battery
backup, _hardwired_, and interconnected smoke alarms. Then call for a CO.
I will guarantee you that you or anyone else will _never_ legally live in
that house until the 120v/with battery backup, _hardwired_ and
interconnected smoke alarms are installed in the correct locations in that
house. Same usually applies for existing houses that are totally
rewired/remodeled.

Many areas (in accordance with NFPA 72) will allow battery-only smoke
detectors in _existing_ homes. In those cases where a battery only smoke
detector is permitted, yes, a plug-in 120v/with battery backup smoke
detector would be an improvement. HOWEVER, NFPA 72 makes it clear that
these are STOP GAP measures at best, and the best solution is to install
_hardwired_ , interconnected, 120v/with battery backup smoke detectors.
Call your local Fire Marshall for the straight dope.

The smoke detector that I referred to in the last thread on this topic,
http://www.marilynelectronics.net/pr...ors/7109LS.htm, as
others pointed out, is intended for use by hearing impaired people, in
ADDITION to a hardwired system, or, as permitted by NFPA 72 _and_ your local
fire authorities where battery only smoke detectors are permitted (EXISTING
houses). At $200 bux a pop, I'm sure that you won't have any problem
finding an electrical contractor who will install a 120v/with battery
backup, hardwired, interconnected system for the same price per smoke.

The NFPA72 battery-only smoke detector clause is intended to ease the
transition from houses that originally never had smoke detectors to the now
required hardwired smoke detectors.

The point many others were trying to make in the other thread was that you
will _never_ buy a _new_ house in the USA that doesn't have hardwired,
120v/with battery backup smoke detectors in the proper locations. Some
AHJ's/lending institutions/insurance companies, will require that existing
houses be brought up to fire code before transfer of ownership can occur.

Bottom line is this. Should someone decide to do as you propose, it is
strongly recommended that one check with their local Fire Marshall and their
insurance company _first_.

If your intention is to disallow battery-only smoke detectors in favor of
plug-in 120v/with battery backup smokes, that may be a step in the right
direction. However, IMO, DIY, homeowner jerry-rigged smokes is not the way
to go, and even if they were store bought, UL listed, and NFPA 72 approved,
as soon as some little kid (or an irresponsible adult) unplugs one, you're
right back to square one with the battery-only smoke, which you so adamantly
oppose.

Its been documented moron . Just look it up its code , lazy ass. But
then your the guy who thought moron was spelled MoRRon , moron.
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So you beleive in sex with animals .They give polyps or didnt you know
I Knew you were a weird one. Move back to your Arab homeland Moron.

(m Ransley) wrote in message ...


Find this nut a straight jacket AND CALL AN AMBULANCE

"volts500" wrote in message .com...
"misterfact" wrote in message
m...

Still waiting to hear how splicing an electrical cord onto a hardwired
smoke detector and then securing it into the receptacle with a
bracket-is so damn DANGEROUS! (other than it is a violation of some
code that no one seems to be able to document)

Buy some property _anywhere_ in the USA, pull the permits, build a house,
wire it yourself and leave out the (NFPA 72 required) 120v/with battery
backup, _hardwired_, and interconnected smoke alarms. Then call for a CO.
I will guarantee you that you or anyone else will _never_ legally live in
that house until the 120v/with battery backup, _hardwired_ and
interconnected smoke alarms are installed in the correct locations in that
house. Same usually applies for existing houses that are totally
rewired/remodeled.

Many areas (in accordance with NFPA 72) will allow battery-only smoke
detectors in _existing_ homes. In those cases where a battery only smoke
detector is permitted, yes, a plug-in 120v/with battery backup smoke
detector would be an improvement. HOWEVER, NFPA 72 makes it clear that
these are STOP GAP measures at best, and the best solution is to install
_hardwired_ , interconnected, 120v/with battery backup smoke detectors.
Call your local Fire Marshall for the straight dope.

The smoke detector that I referred to in the last thread on this topic,
http://www.marilynelectronics.net/pr...ors/7109LS.htm, as
others pointed out, is intended for use by hearing impaired people, in
ADDITION to a hardwired system, or, as permitted by NFPA 72 _and_ your local
fire authorities where battery only smoke detectors are permitted (EXISTING
houses). At $200 bux a pop, I'm sure that you won't have any problem
finding an electrical contractor who will install a 120v/with battery
backup, hardwired, interconnected system for the same price per smoke.

The NFPA72 battery-only smoke detector clause is intended to ease the
transition from houses that originally never had smoke detectors to the now
required hardwired smoke detectors.

The point many others were trying to make in the other thread was that you
will _never_ buy a _new_ house in the USA that doesn't have hardwired,
120v/with battery backup smoke detectors in the proper locations. Some
AHJ's/lending institutions/insurance companies, will require that existing
houses be brought up to fire code before transfer of ownership can occur.

Bottom line is this. Should someone decide to do as you propose, it is
strongly recommended that one check with their local Fire Marshall and their
insurance company _first_.

If your intention is to disallow battery-only smoke detectors in favor of
plug-in 120v/with battery backup smokes, that may be a step in the right
direction. However, IMO, DIY, homeowner jerry-rigged smokes is not the way
to go, and even if they were store bought, UL listed, and NFPA 72 approved,
as soon as some little kid (or an irresponsible adult) unplugs one, you're
right back to square one with the battery-only smoke, which you so adamantly
oppose.

Bravo! Someone finally actually READ my post and caught on! If some
kid unplugs it- you still have the battery back-up! Bravo! But then
your back to the cheap 9v. dead battery situation- so get smart- read
my post again and you'll see that I suggested SCREWING IT WITH A
BRACKET INTO THE CENTER SCREW OF THE WALL RECEPTACLE (WITH A CHILPROOF
SCREW-LIKE AN ALLEN HEAD OR STAR). Why you ever thought I suggested
this as a replacement for hardwired- I'll never know! It's the
cheapest and most reliable way to go. If it isn't approved by some
code- it's probably because it eliminates the need for an electrician.
Good electrical splices are not refered to as "jerry-rigged" by the
way!

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