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Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to
rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! |
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"Crafty" wrote in message ... Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! Consult a pro? Steve |
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Crafty wrote in :
[snip] This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? When I was younger, my father used some stumping dynamite to remove several large tree stumps. Fire wasn't the primary problem -- it was flying debris. If you have anything valuable within several hundred yards of the stump (like your house), don't even think about doing something like this. Rocks, dirt, and chunks of wood go flying for a long distance -- much further than you might expect. There are also legal considerations; is it legal for you to build and detonate your own bomb at that location? You should check with your local fire/police department ahead of time -- you don't want to end up in jail over a tree stump. |
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You want to blow it up right over your well sump?
Call in the pro with a stump grinder. Let them make fast work of it. -- Joseph E. Meehan 26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math "Crafty" wrote in message ... Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! |
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Well, you've ruled out all the practical alternatives. What do you think we
are, magicians? Either leave the stumps in, or choose one. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. Digging is also impossible because My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. -- Christopher a. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.org "Crafty" wrote in message ... Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! |
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Not sure how well this works but you can buy an expensive commercial
product that accelerates the decomposition process of the stump. I have seen it for sale at Home Depot and it is somewhat expensive: $10 for a small container with enough to do two stumps. I looked at the container and the main ingredient is Potassium Nitrate (which you can buy on eBay for $10/10lbs). You can also drill holes and fill with cheap 10-10-10. Not sure how well that works either but it does provide a source of nitrogen for the bacteria that eat the stump and that's what will eventually do them in. Not the fastest way to get rid of stumps but I plan to try one or the other next year when I clear some large trees to expand a horse pasture. Crafty wrote in message ... Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. |
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Let me know when the blast will occur. I want to come and watch.
Crafty wrote in : Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! |
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You dont know gunpowder, when you cork it you may set it off and blow
yourself up. Plus you will need alot more than you describe to do anything. Like a pound or 2 . But your pump is below, bad idea. |
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Crafty wrote in message ... . . .(snip). . . 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run .. . .(snip). . . Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! Another way of describing this plan is : "Make my own explosive" "Blow up Something with home-made explosive" I spent some time doing stuff a bit like this for my Uncle when he was mad at some Vietnamese. Step 3 is tricky. You have to do this just right or you blow a hand off , maybe even part of a head. Er. . .you know stumps tend to rot out if you wait long enough. Regards Old Al (4 fingers and a thumb on each hand but a bit light on eye brows) |
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"DBCooper" wrote in message ... Let me know when the blast will occur. I want to come and watch. My favorite video clip was the one from the Pacific Northwest. A whale beached itself, and died. There was a discussion on the best way to remove the whale from the beach. Too big to pick up and put on a flatbed. Then someone had an idea. Pack explosives around the whale and convert it to very very small pieces. The idea was accepted, and the explosives placed. In the meantime, people started showing up. TV cameras showed up. Ice cream trucks showed up. All was ready. Cameras zoomed in from a "safe" distance. 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 BOOM. It looked good for about five seconds. Then chunks could be seen dropping from the sky. Closer and closer to the cameras came the puffs of dust from landing chunks of blubber. People start screaming and running. Chunks now landing IN the crowd of hysterical people. Cut tape. In the aftermath, there were large chunks of blubber all over. One chunk the size of a VolksWagen landed on top of a car pushing the roof down to seat level. Luckily, no one was sitting in the car. People had bloody blubber stains all over them, and it rained a mix of explosive residue mixed with blubber, oil, and blood. In the end, they had to go all over with pitchforks and front end loaders and pick it all up. It reminded me of Mr. Carlson's line in WKRP in Cinncinati: "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." STeve |
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Be forewarned. BATF agents have NO sense of humor.
Steve |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:34:10 -0500, Stormin Mormonn
wrote: Well, you've ruled out all the practical alternatives. What do you think we are, magicians? Either leave the stumps in, or choose one. Recipro saw with a pruning blade. You don't want to use your chainsaw that close to the ground, as you'll just eat up your chain and bar. Pruning blade is 2-3 bucks. All you need to do it get it below lawnmower height and let Mother Nature do the rest. Then toss the blade. Nothing is more useless than trying to cut wood with a dull recipro blade. DAMHIKT. |
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Not sure how well this works but you can buy an expensive commercial product that accelerates the decomposition process of the stump. I have seen it for sale at Home Depot and it is somewhat expensive: $10 for a small container with enough to do two stumps. I looked at the container and the main ingredient is Potassium Nitrate (which you can buy on eBay for $10/10lbs). You can also drill holes and fill with cheap 10-10-10. Not sure how well that works either but it does provide a source of nitrogen for the bacteria that eat the stump and that's what will eventually do them in. Not the fastest way to get rid of stumps but I plan to try one or the other next year when I clear some large trees to expand a horse pasture. Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. Well, it may be the only thing I can do. There are just too many to hire someone else to do it for me. There's about 15 of them. I live in the mountains, and it's a LONG way to town. Anyone coming out here would cost serious dough. Sure, the deep country is tranquil, but when you need something, you're usually SOL unless you want to pay a lot or travel a long way to get it. Thanks for the suggestions, though. |
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"Crafty" wrote in message ... Not sure how well this works but you can buy an expensive commercial product that accelerates the decomposition process of the stump. I have seen it for sale at Home Depot and it is somewhat expensive: $10 for a small container with enough to do two stumps. I looked at the container and the main ingredient is Potassium Nitrate (which you can buy on eBay for $10/10lbs). You can also drill holes and fill with cheap 10-10-10. Not sure how well that works either but it does provide a source of nitrogen for the bacteria that eat the stump and that's what will eventually do them in. Not the fastest way to get rid of stumps but I plan to try one or the other next year when I clear some large trees to expand a horse pasture. Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. Well, it may be the only thing I can do. There are just too many to hire someone else to do it for me. There's about 15 of them. I live in the mountains, and it's a LONG way to town. Anyone coming out here would cost serious dough. Sure, the deep country is tranquil, but when you need something, you're usually SOL unless you want to pay a lot or travel a long way to get it. Thanks for the suggestions, though. buy the stump grinder, perhaps used, and sell it after you're done. it'll probably be cheaper than having someone else do it. |
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"oldal4865" wrote in message ... Er. . .you know stumps tend to rot out if you wait long enough. I was just going to suggest he look up someone here that has a termite problem and offer to "relocate" the problem. |
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For some reason, fire sounds like a good solution.
(you should consult other people to determine the best approach to a controlled stump burning. We don't need to start another california fire) Are you trying to level it off for grass? or to put something in its place? |
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Crafty writes:
1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder Aside from the legal problems, admit that you have no idea how big or deep this hole should be, and how much powder to charge in. Guessing will not work. Some things can be learned on-the-job, but blasting? There are good reasons that stumps are no longer removed by blasting, even by those who might know how. |
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Crafty ) wrote:
: Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to : rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several : LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many : other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I've heard that you can get rid of stumps by drilling holes into the stumps and then watering frequently (daily?) with a high nitrogen fertilizer. The organic breakdown of wood is limited by the supply of air, water and nitrogen - give it plenty of all three and it'll turn to compost pretty quickly. At least, that's the theory - I've never done this. There's also burning out the stump. It's reckless, but probably safer than blasting. I'd use the air/water/nitrogen technique myself. I did a quick look in google and found this. http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...444421263.html --- Chip |
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Its possible to buy explosives to remove the stumps. Here you must obtain a
license from the county before you can purchase explosives. Its not cheaper then grinding. When you are done removing them with explosives you have a large hole in the ground that will need to be filled and a large stump that will need to be disposed of in some manner ( you said no fire). Grinding makes a lot of sense. A lot of stumps can be done in a day. I like to burn my stumps. I simply build a small fire on top of the stump and add some more fire wood every few hours. Usually takes about a week. |
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Crafty wrote in :
Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight Yeah,like that will work.Might shoot the cork a good distance. 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! When using explosives,one must consider where the debris will fly. (possible damage to property,especially other's) Blasting inside city limits also is a no-no. From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. -- Jim Yanik,NRA member jyanik-at-kua.net |
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Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight Yeah,like that will work.Might shoot the cork a good distance. 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! When using explosives,one must consider where the debris will fly. (possible damage to property,especially other's) Blasting inside city limits also is a no-no. From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. I load shotgun shells often, so I am familiar with gunpowder. I wasn't aware that it was so unstable, and I've never had it detonate prematurely. A little wood glue should hold the cork in place well enough. I already have gunpowder, so the cost would be minimal. |
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All right, let's give you an introduction to explosives. Something explodes because it is in a confined space. A cork plugging the hole is not sufficient to keep the gunpowder from simply burning quickly and popping the cork. Frankly, I cannot BELIEVE that people haven't told you about the most common way to make an explosive, but perhaps it's so they don't want to share it with a few dozen teenagers looking for a way to blow something up. Crafty wrote in message ... Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight Yeah,like that will work.Might shoot the cork a good distance. 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! When using explosives,one must consider where the debris will fly. (possible damage to property,especially other's) Blasting inside city limits also is a no-no. From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. I load shotgun shells often, so I am familiar with gunpowder. I wasn't aware that it was so unstable, and I've never had it detonate prematurely. A little wood glue should hold the cork in place well enough. I already have gunpowder, so the cost would be minimal. |
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All right, let's give you an introduction to explosives. Something explodes because it is in a confined space. A cork plugging the hole is not sufficient to keep the gunpowder from simply burning quickly and popping the cork. Frankly, I cannot BELIEVE that people haven't told you about the most common way to make an explosive, but perhaps it's so they don't want to share it with a few dozen teenagers looking for a way to blow something up. Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight Yeah,like that will work.Might shoot the cork a good distance. 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! When using explosives,one must consider where the debris will fly. (possible damage to property,especially other's) Blasting inside city limits also is a no-no. From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. I load shotgun shells often, so I am familiar with gunpowder. I wasn't aware that it was so unstable, and I've never had it detonate prematurely. A little wood glue should hold the cork in place well enough. I already have gunpowder, so the cost would be minimal. Okay, again, I wasn't aware that there were explosives training classes. Where did you go to school, Afghanistan? I am not a teenager, either. |
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Go down to the local pharmacy and get a bunch of salt peter, drill holes in the stump, and pour the salt peter into the holes. The roots will then dry out and start to rot. Michael Baugh wrote in message .. . All right, let's give you an introduction to explosives. Something explodes because it is in a confined space. A cork plugging the hole is not sufficient to keep the gunpowder from simply burning quickly and popping the cork. Frankly, I cannot BELIEVE that people haven't told you about the most common way to make an explosive, but perhaps it's so they don't want to share it with a few dozen teenagers looking for a way to blow something up. Crafty wrote in message ... Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight Yeah,like that will work.Might shoot the cork a good distance. 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! When using explosives,one must consider where the debris will fly. (possible damage to property,especially other's) Blasting inside city limits also is a no-no. From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. I load shotgun shells often, so I am familiar with gunpowder. I wasn't aware that it was so unstable, and I've never had it detonate prematurely. A little wood glue should hold the cork in place well enough. I already have gunpowder, so the cost would be minimal. |
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Explosives: Tree stump removal
"Michael Baugh" wrote in message
... Go down to the local pharmacy and get a bunch of salt peter, drill holes in the stump, and pour the salt peter into the holes. The roots will then dry out and start to rot. Michael Baugh wrote in message .. . All right, let's give you an introduction to explosives. Something explodes because it is in a confined space. A cork plugging the hole is not sufficient to keep the gunpowder from simply burning quickly and popping the cork. Frankly, I cannot BELIEVE that people haven't told you about the most common way to make an explosive, but perhaps it's so they don't want to share it with a few dozen teenagers looking for a way to blow something up. Crafty wrote in message ... Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight Yeah,like that will work.Might shoot the cork a good distance. 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! When using explosives,one must consider where the debris will fly. (possible damage to property,especially other's) Blasting inside city limits also is a no-no. From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. I load shotgun shells often, so I am familiar with gunpowder. I wasn't aware that it was so unstable, and I've never had it detonate prematurely. A little wood glue should hold the cork in place well enough. I already have gunpowder, so the cost would be minimal. HD has stuff called "Stump Out" which is salt peter. It will speed rot. Also, you could easily cut the stump out a few months after application. EJ |
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Ammonium nitrate at the farm supply store, with
diesel fuel to increase effect by a factor of 10, with a shotgun shell as detonator. It's what they used to "blow stumps". Oklahoma bombing used about 5,000 pounds of it. Crafty wrote in message ... All right, let's give you an introduction to explosives. Something explodes because it is in a confined space. A cork plugging the hole is not sufficient to keep the gunpowder from simply burning quickly and popping the cork. Frankly, I cannot BELIEVE that people haven't told you about the most common way to make an explosive, but perhaps it's so they don't want to share it with a few dozen teenagers looking for a way to blow something up. Hello. I have been having trouble with removing a stump. I cannot afford to rent a dozer, grinder, or hire someone to do it for me. I have several LARGE stumps to remove. Digging is also impossible because there are many other tree roots nearby, and the ground is mostly rock and clay. I cut down the trees a few years ago. I don't know what kind they are, but they are the toughest damned trees I've ever seen in my life! My chainsaw broke cutting them down, and an axe barely penetrates the surface! They look like Poplar, but they are simply too large to be poplar trees. I am on my last leg, and this is my idea: 1) Drill a 1.5'' diameter hole in the stump, about 3-4 inches deep 2) Fill it with gunpowder 3) Cork it tight Yeah,like that will work.Might shoot the cork a good distance. 4) Install a long fuse 5) Light it and run This will most certainly work. The only problem is that there are a LOT of nearby trees that I want to keep, and I don't want to catch anything on fire. Has anyone tried anything similar to this? Also, I cannot use chemicals. The trees are right above my well sump. Burning is also out of the question. Please do not try this yourself. I don't anyone to get hurt from my idea. I'm looking for people who've tried it or something similar. Open to other suggestions. Advice is appreciated. Thanks a lot! When using explosives,one must consider where the debris will fly. (possible damage to property,especially other's) Blasting inside city limits also is a no-no. From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. I load shotgun shells often, so I am familiar with gunpowder. I wasn't aware that it was so unstable, and I've never had it detonate prematurely. A little wood glue should hold the cork in place well enough. I already have gunpowder, so the cost would be minimal. Okay, again, I wasn't aware that there were explosives training classes. Where did you go to school, Afghanistan? I am not a teenager, either. |
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"Michael Baugh" wrote in message ... Ammonium nitrate at the farm supply store, with diesel fuel to increase effect by a factor of 10, with a shotgun shell as detonator. It's what they used to "blow stumps". Oklahoma bombing used about 5,000 pounds of it. You did it now! Son the black helicopters will be flying over your home!!! When the Oklahoma bombing took place some people were shocked to find out about the mix for the bomb. Someone even mentioned to me as to how people find out about stuff like this. I mentioned one such conversation to my Dad and he reached into his file cabinat and showed me some information he has had for years on mixing and use of the fertilizer/diesel fuel mix. The sheet had the address where it came from, I forget the specifics, but it came right from a county goverment office, and it was given out to farmers with the intent for ues to blow stumps, ditches, and watering holes for livestock. Greg |
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"Michael Baugh" wrote in message ...
All right, let's give you an introduction to explosives. Something explodes because it is in a confined space. A cork plugging the hole is not sufficient to keep the gunpowder from simply burning quickly and popping the cork. Frankly, I cannot BELIEVE that people haven't told you about the most common way to make an explosive, but perhaps it's so they don't want to share it with a few dozen teenagers looking for a way to blow something up. Thats not correct. Smokeless powder is not an explosive, it burns very fast and when it is confined has explosive properties due to the rapid expansion of gases. Blackpowder, on the other hand IS explosive and needs no confining to make it so. A hand full of smokeless powder can be touched off with a match and will only burn, admittedly very fast and you may loose some eyebrows, but a hand full of blackpowder would take your hand off when a match touched it. I would not recommend either method. The most common method and one we used when was working on a pipeline is ANFO. But trying any of these is unsafe and probably would earn you a comfortable stay in a warm place with 3 meals a day, hospital or jail. |
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Yeah, before posting it I did a search and verified
that the same information is readily available. Such as http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/Out...lizerBomb.html But in view of the "Homeland Security" stuff nowadays, and since the original poster obviously didn't get told how to do it at his local country store, I suggest salt peter to rot it out, instead. Greg O wrote in message ... When the Oklahoma bombing took place some people were shocked to find out about the mix for the bomb. Someone even mentioned to me as to how people find out about stuff like this. |
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Yeah, some other comments about anfo at
http://www.skepticfiles.org/new/201doc.htm bighead wrote in message om... The most common method and one we used when was working on a pipeline is ANFO. But trying any of these is unsafe and probably would earn you a comfortable stay in a warm place with 3 meals a day, hospital or jail. |
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Rent a stump grinder. I wouldn't play with gun powder. It can scare you
for life and then you'll be blind (or worse) with those pesky stumps still standing. I think it'll cost you about 60.00. |
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Crafty wrote in
: From your comments/plans,it appears you lack knowledge of safely doing any explosives work. I'd suggest a pro. I load shotgun shells often, so I am familiar with gunpowder. I wasn't aware that it was so unstable, and I've never had it detonate prematurely. A little wood glue should hold the cork in place well enough. I already have gunpowder, so the cost would be minimal. Do you know the laws regarding "destructive devices"? and the penalties for making them? -- Jim Yanik,NRA member jyanik-at-kua.net |
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"Greg O" wrote in
: "Michael Baugh" wrote in message ... Ammonium nitrate at the farm supply store, with diesel fuel to increase effect by a factor of 10, with a shotgun shell as detonator. It's what they used to "blow stumps". Oklahoma bombing used about 5,000 pounds of it. You did it now! Son the black helicopters will be flying over your home!!! When the Oklahoma bombing took place some people were shocked to find out about the mix for the bomb. Someone even mentioned to me as to how people find out about stuff like this. I mentioned one such conversation to my Dad and he reached into his file cabinat and showed me some information he has had for years on mixing and use of the fertilizer/diesel fuel mix. The sheet had the address where it came from, I forget the specifics, but it came right from a county goverment office, and it was given out to farmers with the intent for ues to blow stumps, ditches, and watering holes for livestock. Greg Last report I saw about OKC was that it was AN/nitromethane mix,not ANFO. (NM used as Drag-racing or RC car fuel) -- Jim Yanik,NRA member jyanik-at-kua.net |
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"Michael Baugh" wrote in message .. . All right, let's give you an introduction to explosives. Something explodes because it is in a confined space. A cork plugging the hole is not sufficient to keep the gunpowder from simply burning quickly and popping the cork. As in when a cartridge in a gun is supposed to fire, and the "cork" (lead) pop out through the barrel, but doesn't and causes the gun to "explode"? As when a blackpowder M-80 is put into a mailbox, and the door doesn't "pop" open to relieve the pressure, but the mailbox is destroyed? Things explode all the time although they have a relief channel. Where did you go to explosives school? I think you should ask for a refund. What state do you live in? (other than the state of confusion) I want to avoid that state in my travels. Steve |
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"bighead" wrote The most common method and one we used when was working on a pipeline is ANFO. But trying any of these is unsafe and probably would earn you a comfortable stay in a warm place with 3 meals a day, hospital or jail. Buying ammonium nitrate fertilizer and fuel oil is illegal now? Steve |
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031114 1339 - Eric Scantlebury wrote:
"oldal4865" wrote in message ... Er. . .you know stumps tend to rot out if you wait long enough. I was just going to suggest he look up someone here that has a termite problem and offer to "relocate" the problem. When the Erie Canal was built they used an interesting device to remove tree stumps. The program that I saw showed a computer generated image of the device, which consisted of two wheels about 10' in diameter with an axle between. A chain was wrapped around the axle, and down around the stump. A team of horses were attached to heavy ropes around the wheels and the horses were "encouraged" to pull on the wheels. The axle turned with the chain pulling up on the stump. It was explained that this method was quite effective and used extensively. |
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In one of the sites I looked at, a person talked about
securing chains to the stump with a railroad spike, wrapping the chain around the stump, and then the chains being pulled, causing the stump to be rotated and the roots sheared or removed from the dirt so that the stump was able to be removed. indago wrote in message ... 031114 1339 - Eric Scantlebury wrote: "oldal4865" wrote in message ... Er. . .you know stumps tend to rot out if you wait long enough. I was just going to suggest he look up someone here that has a termite problem and offer to "relocate" the problem. When the Erie Canal was built they used an interesting device to remove tree stumps. The program that I saw showed a computer generated image of the device, which consisted of two wheels about 10' in diameter with an axle between. A chain was wrapped around the axle, and down around the stump. A team of horses were attached to heavy ropes around the wheels and the horses were "encouraged" to pull on the wheels. The axle turned with the chain pulling up on the stump. It was explained that this method was quite effective and used extensively. |
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Michael Baugh wrote: In one of the sites I looked at, a person talked about securing chains to the stump with a railroad spike, wrapping the chain around the stump, and then the chains being pulled, causing the stump to be rotated and the roots sheared or removed from the dirt so that the stump was able to be removed. Sounds like Excedrin headache #712,if the spike lets go ) |
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What a very strange question. You're describing explosions of
devices. The cartridge, the M-80. And you're describing associated devices being damaged. The gun doesn't explode, it is damaged by the 'exploding' cartridge. The mailbox doesn't explode. The 'relief channel' is designed into the device, such as the gun, But let mud get into the barrel, and watch the force get vented otherwise. The door of the mailbox doesn't have to open. The box may or may not be deformed/damaged by the M-80, with or without the door opening. In fact, the box could be damaged by the localized explosion, even with the door open. I'll not tell you where I got my training with explosives, but I can tell you that they've been in business for a long time, and that their training is frequently called upon to change someone's lifestyle. I will again endorse the choice of using stump rotting chemicals, and ignoring you. SteveB wrote in message news:rastb.14271$Q64.1419@fed1read03... As in when a cartridge in a gun is supposed to fire, and the "cork" (lead) pop out through the barrel, but doesn't and causes the gun to "explode"? As when a blackpowder M-80 is put into a mailbox, and the door doesn't "pop" open to relieve the pressure, but the mailbox is destroyed? Things explode all the time although they have a relief channel. Where did you go to explosives school? I think you should ask for a refund. What state do you live in? (other than the state of confusion) I want to avoid that state in my travels. Steve |
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No one said buying them was illegal. Using them to create
an explosive puts you under different scrutiny. SteveB wrote in message news:bdstb.14289$Q64.1072@fed1read03... "bighead" wrote The most common method and one we used when was working on a pipeline is ANFO. But trying any of these is unsafe and probably would earn you a comfortable stay in a warm place with 3 meals a day, hospital or jail. Buying ammonium nitrate fertilizer and fuel oil is illegal now? Steve |
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