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Kitchen Aid Side-by-side - Water Dispenser/Filter Problem
Hi All -
Just wondering if anyone has experience with side-by-side fridges and their water filters. I had my fridge for a year before the light changed and I had to change my filter. We use *TONS* of water and ice. The ice bucket used to fill up in a day and the water flow was adequate (but not exceptional). As soon as we changed the filter, we noticed a slow-down in the flow of the water and how quickly the ice was being made. We thought the water pressure in our area was being affected by our water shortage, so we just kind of ignored it. Now it is the fall, no more water shortages and the flow seems worse. I removed the filter - and YEP - heavy water flow. So, it is the filter, now, what's the problem with it? I am pretty confident it's installed correctly (I hear a vaccuum sound each time I put it in and turn it). Perhaps it was a faulty filter or clogged from day one? Does anyone know if buying a new filter will solve this? It was expensive ($50) and is now 4 months old - I doubt the parts place will exchange it for me (BUT, the label does say it should last for 6 - 12 months, and the Green indicator light is still on). Do you think I have a case to demand a new filter free of charge? What could be the problem if the new filter does not help increase the flow? Thanks, Paula |
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Kitchen Aid Side-by-side - Water Dispenser/Filter Problem
Paula wrote:
Hi All - Just wondering if anyone has experience with side-by-side fridges and their water filters. I had my fridge for a year before the light changed and I had to change my filter. We use *TONS* of water and ice. The ice bucket used to fill up in a day and the water flow was adequate (but not exceptional). As soon as we changed the filter, we noticed a slow-down in the flow of the water and how quickly the ice was being made. We thought the water pressure in our area was being affected by our water shortage, so we just kind of ignored it. Now it is the fall, no more water shortages and the flow seems worse. I removed the filter - and YEP - heavy water flow. So, it is the filter, now, what's the problem with it? I am pretty confident it's installed correctly (I hear a vaccuum sound each time I put it in and turn it). Perhaps it was a faulty filter or clogged from day one? Does anyone know if buying a new filter will solve this? It was expensive ($50) and is now 4 months old - I doubt the parts place will exchange it for me (BUT, the label does say it should last for 6 - 12 months, and the Green indicator light is still on). Do you think I have a case to demand a new filter free of charge? What could be the problem if the new filter does not help increase the flow? Thanks, Paula i got a whirlpool(think they also make the kitchenair one... probably the same filter(or maybe not.. that might be the problem??? pull the filter out and look inside the front tip to see if anything is blocking the water flow??? that might be the problem.. put the old filter back in and see if thats the problem??? also on mine they have about 10 feet of plastic hose that is coiled up and sits behind the lower drawers in the refigerator section.. that might be kinked????? |
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Kitchen Aid Side-by-side - Water Dispenser/Filter Problem
Paula wrote: I had my fridge for a year before the light changed and I had to change my filter. We use *TONS* of water and ice. The ice bucket used to fill up in a day and the water flow was adequate (but not exceptional). As soon as we changed the filter, we noticed a slow-down in the flow of the water and how quickly the ice was being made. The amount of water should not effect ice production. It will harvest whenever it is ready whether water is in there or not. Unless the icemaker isn't filling *at all* at times (unlikely IMO), the water supply likely has nothing to do with reduced ice production. if you're having a problem with reduced ice production (not reduced cube size), a more likely cause is reduced freezer temperature. Check and clean the condenser coils beneath the fridge as that is a major cause of reduced freezer temperature (and also increases energy consumption of the fridge). We thought the water pressure in our area was being affected by our water shortage, so we just kind of ignored it. Now it is the fall, no more water shortages and the flow seems worse. I removed the filter - and YEP - heavy water flow. There will be some reduced water pressure through the filter but if your "heavy water flow" is still not 'up to snuff', the filter will just make it worse. Many water line installations will have a sediment screen in the water line where it attaches to the fridge's water fill valve. If it is partially plugged, it could be contributing to the problem. Also, if a 'saddle valve' was installed on your house water pipe for the fridge's water supply, it could be partially plugged with lime and scale, etc. It will be even worse if a 'self piercing' type saddle valve was installed or any type of saddle valve was installed on the underside of a horizontal water pipe. Only a drill type saddle valve should be used (if not a regular plumbing tap) and installed on the side of a vertical pipe or on the *top* of a horizontal one. You can read about the water valves used on appliances and cleaning a filter screen at the following link: Appliance water fill vavle information http://ng.appliance411.com/links/sea...ry=water+valve So, it is the filter, now, what's the problem with it? Perhaps it was a faulty filter or clogged from day one? Does anyone know if buying a new filter will solve this? Once you've ruled out all the other possibilities, you can try a new one. It was expensive ($50) The company at the following link has some pretty good priced refrigerator water filters (and even often has deals on shipping for quantity purchases). Maybe you can get a replacement a bit cheaper? http://ng.appliance411.com/data.php?...erfilters.html and is now 4 months old - I doubt the parts place will exchange it for me (BUT, the label does say it should last for 6 - 12 months, and the Green indicator light is still on). What is printed on the label is only a suggestion and will vary with amount of water use. Depending on your dispenser system, it may only count elapsed time and not actual water use. Do you think I have a case to demand a new filter free of charge? You can try but after 4 months... More likely if you tried to return it immediately but you never know. What could be the problem if the new filter does not help increase the flow? I would check the other things first and also that Jim suggests below. Maybe an O-ring slipped off anf got inside?? jim wrote i got a whirlpool (think they also make the kitchenair one... Yes, Whirlpool makes and owns KitchanAid. pull the filter out and look inside the front tip to see if anything is blocking the water flow??? It certainly is a possibility. JMO Dan O. - Appliance411.com http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=KitchenAid+fridge =Ð~~~~~~ |
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"Dan O." wrote in message ... Paula wrote: I had my fridge for a year before the light changed and I had to change my filter. We use *TONS* of water and ice. The ice bucket used to fill up in a day and the water flow was adequate (but not exceptional). As soon as we changed the filter, we noticed a slow-down in the flow of the water and how quickly the ice was being made. The amount of water should not effect ice production. It will harvest whenever it is ready whether water is in there or not. Unless the icemaker isn't filling *at all* at times (unlikely IMO), the water supply likely has nothing to do with reduced ice production. if you're having a problem with reduced ice production (not reduced cube size), a more likely cause is reduced freezer temperature. Check and clean the condenser coils beneath the fridge as that is a major cause of reduced freezer temperature (and also increases energy consumption of the fridge). We thought the water pressure in our area was being affected by our water shortage, so we just kind of ignored it. Now it is the fall, no more water shortages and the flow seems worse. I removed the filter - and YEP - heavy water flow. There will be some reduced water pressure through the filter but if your "heavy water flow" is still not 'up to snuff', the filter will just make it worse. Many water line installations will have a sediment screen in the water line where it attaches to the fridge's water fill valve. If it is partially plugged, it could be contributing to the problem. Also, if a 'saddle valve' was installed on your house water pipe for the fridge's water supply, it could be partially plugged with lime and scale, etc. It will be even worse if a 'self piercing' type saddle valve was installed or any type of saddle valve was installed on the underside of a horizontal water pipe. Only a drill type saddle valve should be used (if not a regular plumbing tap) and installed on the side of a vertical pipe or on the *top* of a horizontal one. You can read about the water valves used on appliances and cleaning a filter screen at the following link: Appliance water fill vavle information http://ng.appliance411.com/links/sea...ry=water+valve So, it is the filter, now, what's the problem with it? Perhaps it was a faulty filter or clogged from day one? Does anyone know if buying a new filter will solve this? Once you've ruled out all the other possibilities, you can try a new one. It was expensive ($50) The company at the following link has some pretty good priced refrigerator water filters (and even often has deals on shipping for quantity purchases). Maybe you can get a replacement a bit cheaper? http://ng.appliance411.com/data.php?...erfilters.html and is now 4 months old - I doubt the parts place will exchange it for me (BUT, the label does say it should last for 6 - 12 months, and the Green indicator light is still on). What is printed on the label is only a suggestion and will vary with amount of water use. Depending on your dispenser system, it may only count elapsed time and not actual water use. Do you think I have a case to demand a new filter free of charge? You can try but after 4 months... More likely if you tried to return it immediately but you never know. What could be the problem if the new filter does not help increase the flow? I would check the other things first and also that Jim suggests below. Maybe an O-ring slipped off anf got inside?? jim wrote i got a whirlpool (think they also make the kitchenair one... Yes, Whirlpool makes and owns KitchanAid. pull the filter out and look inside the front tip to see if anything is blocking the water flow??? It certainly is a possibility. JMO Dan O. - Appliance411.com http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=KitchenAid+fridge =Ð~~~~~~ This is Turtle. Hey Dan O , I have a brother inlaw with a brand new Whirlpool side by side and ice and water in the door when he installed the new water filter in it / first filter ever put in it. The water pressure was cut down to 1/3 of without the filter in it. You have to wait more than a whole minute to get a 16 oz glass filled with water , with ice in it already. He is calling Whirlpool out on it this week and see what it is. If you have anything on this let me know for i think there is something to this for this is the 6 th Whirlpool side by side with the same words or problem on them and all on side by sides whirlpool less than 6 months old. Two of them was on the newsgroup and 4 on people I know. We maybe seeing a design defect in the making. TURTLE |
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"TURTLE" wrote in message ...
I have a brother inlaw with a brand new Whirlpool side by side and ice and water in the door when he installed the new water filter in it / first filter ever put in it. The water pressure was cut down to 1/3 of without the filter in it. You have to wait more than a whole minute to get a 16 oz glass filled with water , with ice in it already. He is calling Whirlpool out on it this week and see what it is. If you have anything on this let me know for i think there is something to this for this is the 6 th Whirlpool side by side with the same words or problem on them and all on side by sides whirlpool less than 6 months old. Two of them was on the newsgroup and 4 on people I know. We maybe seeing a design defect in the making. Hi all, Kinda wonder if the new filter has more filtering ability ( better filter than the original ) cutting down the flow rate.....or is the replacement(s) wrong flow rate to begin with?? jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ |
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Kitchen Aid Side-by-side - Water Dispenser/Filter Problem
"jeff" wrote in message om... "TURTLE" wrote in message ... I have a brother inlaw with a brand new Whirlpool side by side and ice and water in the door when he installed the new water filter in it / first filter ever put in it. The water pressure was cut down to 1/3 of without the filter in it. You have to wait more than a whole minute to get a 16 oz glass filled with water , with ice in it already. He is calling Whirlpool out on it this week and see what it is. If you have anything on this let me know for i think there is something to this for this is the 6 th Whirlpool side by side with the same words or problem on them and all on side by sides whirlpool less than 6 months old. Two of them was on the newsgroup and 4 on people I know. We maybe seeing a design defect in the making. Hi all, Kinda wonder if the new filter has more filtering ability ( better filter than the original ) cutting down the flow rate.....or is the replacement(s) wrong flow rate to begin with?? jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ this is Turtle. This is what I'm thinking here. I think we are seeing a design flaw in the making here. TURTLE |
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Kitchen Aid Side-by-side - Water Dispenser/Filter Problem
Kinda wonder if the new filter has more filtering ability
(better filter than the original) cutting down the flow rate ...or is the replacement(s) wrong flow rate to begin with?? this is Turtle. This is what I'm thinking here. I think we are seeing a design flaw in the making here. Frigidaire has 2 different water filters which are not interchangeable, I've never heard of such a thing on Whirlpool built models. I'd be curious to know the refrigerator models affected and the part number of the filter which was installed. Dan O. - Appliance411.com http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Whirlpool+fridge =Ð~~~~~~ |
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