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Transmix utility mixer...
This is a stretch for sure but, nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Have old (as in late 50s/very early 60s) utility mixer that was mounted on old Farmall 560 w/ the two-point connection system and two other brackets around the rear axles. No longer have the 560; was looking at trying to rig up a mount for either the JD 4440 or little 955 utility tractor (or perhaps even just make a fixed platform and and convert it into essentially a stationary mixer since the cab on the 4440 is in the way and there's not much of any way to mount the solid shaft to the rear PTO to hold the weight and the little 955 isn't much more convenient it appears, but I've not yet totally given it up) Anyway, the Transmix was/is a 3-pt (or similar since IH had 2-pt at the time) mixer that ran off the PTO using a center hub on the PTO and a tire mounted on the rear of the drum as the driving mechanism. It was on a tilting cradle that let you drive to a pour site and dump there. We used it to pour all the bunks for the feedlots back then. The point of the posting is while have all the pieces, it's been so long since it used it I can't recall precisely how it assembled and if anybody just out of the blue had access to manual or pictures on an IH it would aid significantly in sorting it out. Can't believe in all the manuals there are here(*) I can't find where Dad must have squirreled this one away... They were built by an outfit called Universal Pulleys Co. in Wichita, KS. AFAICT they are no more and apparently haven't been for quite some time. Here's a link to one on a Ford 850; the one here has a different mounting arrangement by enough that that picture is of minimal help on the pieces-parts that I can't quite figure out orientation of as yet to make it work. The cradle that the drum rolls on is similar but not the remainder of the framework isn't at all similar. Part of difficulty is I don't have/know distances and/or heights from the axles, etc., of the 560 so can't precisely locate a reference point to start from. http://mmg.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/Jim.UT/TransMix/mixer01lr.jpg.html I'm sure eventually I can get it worked out but just took a break and thought would ask -- if nothing else, others might find it an interesting piece of gear... (*) Like a like-new manual for 1920s Farmall and a Twin City Model 30 or .... -- |
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Transmix utility mixer...
On 5/25/13 3:40 PM, dpb wrote:
This is a stretch for sure but, nothing ventured, nothing gained... Have old (as in late 50s/very early 60s) utility mixer that was mounted on old Farmall 560 w/ the two-point connection system and two other brackets around the rear axles. No longer have the 560; was looking at trying to rig up a mount for either the JD 4440 or little 955 utility tractor (or perhaps even just make a fixed platform and and convert it into essentially a stationary mixer since the cab on the 4440 is in the way and there's not much of any way to mount the solid shaft to the rear PTO to hold the weight and the little 955 isn't much more convenient it appears, but I've not yet totally given it up) Snipped some. You might have luck he http://tinyurl.com/22fhu8 or http://www.yesterdaystractors.com |
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Transmix utility mixer...
On 5/25/13 3:40 PM, dpb wrote:
This is a stretch for sure but, nothing ventured, nothing gained... Have old (as in late 50s/very early 60s) utility mixer that was mounted on old Farmall 560 w/ the two-point connection system and two other brackets around the rear axles. No longer have the 560; was looking at trying to rig up a mount for either the JD 4440 or little 955 utility tractor (or perhaps even just make a fixed platform and and convert it into essentially a stationary mixer since the cab on the 4440 is in the way and there's not much of any way to mount the solid shaft to the rear PTO to hold the weight and the little 955 isn't much more convenient it appears, but I've not yet totally given it up) There might be some help here also: http://www.ntractorclub.com/forums/manuals/manuals.htm or http://tinyurl.com/7rkhb |
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Transmix utility mixer...
On 5/26/2013 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 5/25/13 3:40 PM, dpb wrote: This is a stretch for sure but, nothing ventured, nothing gained... Have old (as in late 50s/very early 60s) utility mixer that was mounted on old Farmall 560 w/ the two-point connection system and two other brackets around the rear axles. No longer have the 560; was looking at trying to rig up a mount for either the JD 4440 or little 955 utility tractor (or perhaps even just make a fixed platform and and convert it into essentially a stationary mixer since the cab on the 4440 is in the way and there's not much of any way to mount the solid shaft to the rear PTO to hold the weight and the little 955 isn't much more convenient it appears, but I've not yet totally given it up) There might be some help here also: http://www.ntractorclub.com/forums/manuals/manuals.htm or http://tinyurl.com/7rkhb I had stumbled across another link to the same manual the owner of it had posted in another forum but he's got an old Ford and the rigging was/is enough different didn't really help w/ the pieces-parts I've got to play with..._BUT_, at the above link there's also a sales brochure that shows one mounted on a number of other tractors, one of which _is_ a Farmall 2-pt and I think by blowing it up large enough I have at least a clue out what they did... Thanks...I'll post back if it works out as I think from this. We used this a ton back then, but that was 50+ yr ago and I've no recollections of mounting details; only of tossing what seemed innumerable scoops of sand/gravel into it... -- |
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Transmix utility mixer...revisited
On 5/25/2013 3:40 PM, dpb wrote:
This is a stretch for sure but, nothing ventured, nothing gained... Have old (as in late 50s/very early 60s) utility mixer that was mounted on old Farmall 560 w/ the two-point connection system and two other brackets around the rear axles. No longer have the 560; was looking at trying to rig up a mount for either the JD 4440 or little 955 utility tractor ... ...[big snip]... The point of the posting is while have all the pieces, it's been so long since it used it I can't recall precisely how it assembled and if anybody just out of the blue had access to manual or pictures on an IH it would aid significantly in sorting it out. ... ...[and another]... I'm sure eventually I can get it worked out but just took a break and thought would ask -- if nothing else, others might find it an interesting piece of gear... .... OK, I have from a couple of trial and error attempts and the picture from the brochure a link to which Dean Hoffman posted, managed to get the frame/cradle mounting fingered out and have pulled the PTO shaft from the humongous casting that was mounted to the rear PTO cover plate on the 560 but that is far too big in outside dimensions to fit into the area around a PTO on any tractor since the '50s or very early '60s...so the plan was/is to build another support structure to mount from the drawbar hanger and whatever else can find that is convenient and planned on bolting just some pillow blocks to it for the bearings/support. Problem is, the rear end of the shaft is cut down for the bearing for only a 3/4" width and can't find a 1" pillow block that isn't roughly 1-3/8" in thickness or so owing to the lock collar, etc. So, question is, anybody got an idea for an inexpensive bearing mount to save having to have the shaft turned? Any other idears accepted as well... The outrigger end is 1-5/8" and has plenty of length to use a standard pillow block; it's only this inboard end that needs help that I've not got an answer for at the moment... -- |
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Transmix utility mixer...
replying to dpb , fred wrote:
none wrote: This is a stretch for sure but, nothing ventured, nothing gained... Have old (as in late 50s/very early 60s) utility mixer that was mounted on old Farmall 560 w/ the two-point connection system and two other brackets around the rear axles. No longer have the 560; was looking at trying to rig up a mount for either the JD 4440 or little 955 utility tractor (or perhaps even just make a fixed platform and and convert it into essentially a stationary mixer since the cab on the 4440 is in the way and there's not much of any way to mount the solid shaft to the rear PTO to hold the weight and the little 955 isn't much more convenient it appears, but I've not yet totally given it up) Anyway, the Transmix was/is a 3-pt (or similar since IH had 2-pt at the time) mixer that ran off the PTO using a center hub on the PTO and a tire mounted on the rear of the drum as the driving mechanism. It was on a tilting cradle that let you drive to a pour site and dump there. We used it to pour all the bunks for the feedlots back then. The point of the posting is while have all the pieces, it's been so long since it used it I can't recall precisely how it assembled and if anybody just out of the blue had access to manual or pictures on an IH it would aid significantly in sorting it out. Can't believe in all the manuals there are here(*) I can't find where Dad must have squirreled this one away... They were built by an outfit called Universal Pulleys Co. in Wichita, KS. AFAICT they are no more and apparently haven't been for quite some time. Here's a link to one on a Ford 850; the one here has a different mounting arrangement by enough that that picture is of minimal help on the pieces-parts that I can't quite figure out orientation of as yet to make it work. The cradle that the drum rolls on is similar but not the remainder of the framework isn't at all similar. Part of difficulty is I don't have/know distances and/or heights from the axles, etc., of the 560 so can't precisely locate a reference point to start from. http://mmg.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/Jim.UT/TransMix/mixer01lr.jpg.html I'm sure eventually I can get it worked out but just took a break and thought would ask -- if nothing else, others might find it an interesting piece of gear... (*) Like a like-new manual for 1920s Farmall and a Twin City Model 30 or ... here is the manual Found this at http://www.ntractorclub.com/ http://www.ntractorclub.com/manuals/implements/misc/Transmix%20Utility%20Mixer%20-%20Owner's%20Manual.pdf Enjoy If you see one of these for sale I am looking. -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...er-749891-.htm using HomeOwnersHub's Web, RSS and Social Media Interface to home and garden related groups |
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Transmix utility mixer...
On 7/18/2013 9:53 PM, fred wrote:
.... here is the manual Found this at http://www.ntractorclub.com/ .... Had found that; unfortunately the N mount is sufficiently different than the Farmall 2-pt that didn't really help...as noted earlier, found a sales brochure w/ pictures of various tractors one of which was similar enough it helped... Enjoy If you see one of these for sale I am looking. The one here is the only one I've ever seen and the manufacturer is out of business and I'm unaware of anything currently available. Altho I suppose somebody must make a 3-pt mounted mixer, I've not seen one. I did get the drive shaft bearings reconfigured and a bracket made for it to mount to the little 955 before getting sidetracked on more pressing business; still have to adapt the carriage to mount it... Anybody got an old 6.70x15 tire that'll hold air they want to donate for the drive tire? I've had no luck so far in town finding anything in 15" that isn't too wide to go on the rim. Unfortunately, the rim is welded to the drum so swapping to something more currently easy to find isn't really an option... -- |
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Transmix utility mixer...
On 7/20/13 12:25 PM, dpb wrote:
Enjoy If you see one of these for sale I am looking. The one here is the only one I've ever seen and the manufacturer is out of business and I'm unaware of anything currently available. Altho I suppose somebody must make a 3-pt mounted mixer, I've not seen one. I did get the drive shaft bearings reconfigured and a bracket made for it to mount to the little 955 before getting sidetracked on more pressing business; still have to adapt the carriage to mount it... Anybody got an old 6.70x15 tire that'll hold air they want to donate for the drive tire? I've had no luck so far in town finding anything in 15" that isn't too wide to go on the rim. Unfortunately, the rim is welded to the drum so swapping to something more currently easy to find isn't really an option... There is a new three point mounted mixer for sale on Ebay. I found a couple more doing a search. Prices ran from about $900 to double that if I remember correctly. Ebay has some of those tires also. $$$ |
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Transmix utility mixer...
On 7/23/2013 6:02 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 7/20/13 12:25 PM, dpb wrote: .... Anybody got an old 6.70x15 tire that'll hold air they want to donate for the drive tire? I've had no luck so far in town finding anything in 15" that isn't too wide to go on the rim. Unfortunately, the rim is welded to the drum so swapping to something more currently easy to find isn't really an option... There is a new three point mounted mixer for sale on Ebay. I found a couple more doing a search. Prices ran from about $900 to double that if I remember correctly. Ebay has some of those tires also. $$$ I figured somebody had to be making something; just hadn't looked. I did do a little looking on tires but all one needs is a junker only good enough to hold air...I haven't yet gone out to the salvage yard here to see about pulling one off an old '55 Ford or the like... Certainly there's no need for anything even resembling anything good enough to put on an actual vehicle...I'm not sure; I've not tried it either, it's possible the remnants of the one still on it might hold altho it's pretty frayed and I figure will probably fail. Didn't think ahead 40 yr ago and save a couple used tires off the school cars in the shed--have many of various sizes/types (mostly larger truck and/or implement or front tractor) but not one of these. -- |
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Transmix utility mixer...
On 7/23/2013 8:33 AM, dpb wrote:
On 7/23/2013 6:02 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote: On 7/20/13 12:25 PM, dpb wrote: ... Anybody got an old 6.70x15 tire that'll hold air they want to donate for the drive tire? ... .... Ebay has some of those tires also. $$$ .... It would be roughly 175/85- or 185/85-15 in today's sizing -- anything probably 205 or narrower w/ aspect ratio above 70, say, would likely be just fine... Just did another search--one or two used 205/70's at about $50 w/ free shipping. That's about $35 too much for the application... I'll do some serious looking when I finally have time to actually get the carriage mounting done far enough to be able to actually get the thing on the tractor... -- |
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