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I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/

The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.

I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?

Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.

Thanks!
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I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/

The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.

I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?

Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.

Thanks!


It's probably just the size of the picture and the way the shelf fills
the frame, but the shelf looks thick and heavy. Is it? You don't
mention what the wall surface is. Drywall, concrete block, plaster?

If it's drywall you might think about those Hercules Hook things. Two
of those would hold it and the holes left would be tiny. A dab of
toothpaste with a little coloring in it is the usual way for a tenant
to cover up a hole cheaply and quickly.

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I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/


The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.


I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?


Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.


Thanks!


It's probably just the size of the picture and the way the shelf fills
the frame, but the shelf looks thick and heavy. *Is it? *You don't
mention what the wall surface is. *Drywall, concrete block, plaster?

If it's drywall you might think about those Hercules Hook things. *Two
of those would hold it and the holes left would be tiny. *A dab of
toothpaste with a little coloring in it is the usual way for a tenant
to cover up a hole cheaply and quickly.

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The Sharpie was placed there as perspective to help viewers judge the
size, but I guess it didn't work as well as I had hoped. My bad!

The shelf is made from 3/4" veneered pine with 1" high strips of the
same material used as the side rails. The rails are there mainly for
aesthetics and to give me some more surface to add Velcro to. In other
words, the shelf is not very heavy. The sides are 1 3/4" high,
including the rails and the shelf itself, but the rails themselves are
only 3/4" thick. It's hard to tell from the picture, but there is a 1"
gap between the bottom of the shelf and the band saw table because the
shelf is supported by the side rails.

FWIW, the back corner is cut off to allow for the clock's power cord
to hang down behind the shelf when it's mounted in the corner above a
bed.

I have similar shelves for some small speakers in my house and I used
screws and/or toggle bolts through the side rails to mount them to the
walls. Unfortunately, I can't screw into the walls at either of my
girl's colleges, so the shelf must be surface mounted.

The walls are most likely block or plaster since it's an old dorm
building. Definitely not drywall. They are painted, so I know that I'm
at the mercy of how well the paint holds up. As I said, the shelf
worked well last year once I added the dowel as a brace, but it
doesn't look as clean as just the shelf alone.
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I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm room
wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the walls in
any way.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/

The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of the
wall.

I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't like
the look.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?

Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.

Thanks!



I would suggest a painters "push-up" pole. Use an appropriate sized conduit
clamp , mount it to the shelf,around the pole. Then simply set the push -up
against the wall and extend to get compression. Did a similar thing in a
rented apartment once, but with several shelves attached to the pole (mini
speakers.) For appearance sake, your daughter could wrap the pole with some
snazzy type ribbon as a decoration!

Bill in Plano

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I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm room
wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the walls in
any way.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/


The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of the
wall.


I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't like
the look.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?


Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.


Thanks!


I would suggest a painters "push-up" pole. Use an appropriate sized conduit
clamp , mount it to the shelf,around the pole. Then simply set the push -up
against the wall and extend to get compression. Did a similar thing in a
rented apartment once, but with several shelves attached to the pole (mini
speakers.) *For appearance sake, your daughter could wrap the pole with some
snazzy type ribbon as a decoration!

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Thanks Bill, that's an interesting concept.

Unfortunately I am not familiar with a "painters push-up pole" and
Googling the term wasn't much help (lots of hit for fiberglass attenna
masts).

Is it something I'll find if I run over to a big box store or
dedicated paint store?



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On Aug 17, 8:50*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.


There are about 1000 other ways to position a clock radio so it is
accessible from a bed. Why do you feel the need to intentionally
handicap yourself by limiting the solutions to THIS shelf?

Personally, I'd try Command strips. If not by sticking the shelf
directly to the wall, then by hanging the shelf from 3-4 Command Hooks.
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On 8/17/2011 8:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Aug 17, 9:00 am, wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:50 am, wrote:





I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/


The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.


I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?


Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.


Thanks!


It's probably just the size of the picture and the way the shelf fills
the frame, but the shelf looks thick and heavy. Is it? You don't
mention what the wall surface is. Drywall, concrete block, plaster?

If it's drywall you might think about those Hercules Hook things. Two
of those would hold it and the holes left would be tiny. A dab of
toothpaste with a little coloring in it is the usual way for a tenant
to cover up a hole cheaply and quickly.

R- Hide quoted text -

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The Sharpie was placed there as perspective to help viewers judge the
size, but I guess it didn't work as well as I had hoped. My bad!

The shelf is made from 3/4" veneered pine with 1" high strips of the
same material used as the side rails. The rails are there mainly for
aesthetics and to give me some more surface to add Velcro to. In other
words, the shelf is not very heavy. The sides are 1 3/4" high,
including the rails and the shelf itself, but the rails themselves are
only 3/4" thick. It's hard to tell from the picture, but there is a 1"
gap between the bottom of the shelf and the band saw table because the
shelf is supported by the side rails.

FWIW, the back corner is cut off to allow for the clock's power cord
to hang down behind the shelf when it's mounted in the corner above a
bed.

I have similar shelves for some small speakers in my house and I used
screws and/or toggle bolts through the side rails to mount them to the
walls. Unfortunately, I can't screw into the walls at either of my
girl's colleges, so the shelf must be surface mounted.

The walls are most likely block or plaster since it's an old dorm
building. Definitely not drywall. They are painted, so I know that I'm
at the mercy of how well the paint holds up. As I said, the shelf
worked well last year once I added the dowel as a brace, but it
doesn't look as clean as just the shelf alone.


3m vhb tape. with a lower 45 support to prevent torquing the shelf off,
it might be impossible to remove, but it doesn't leave holes in the wall.

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On Aug 17, 12:00*pm, wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:50*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.


There are about 1000 other ways to position a clock radio so it is
accessible from a bed. Why do you feel the need to intentionally
handicap yourself by limiting the solutions to THIS shelf?

Personally, I'd try Command strips. If not by sticking the shelf
directly to the wall, then by hanging the shelf from 3-4 Command Hooks.


I don't know how much time you've spent in college dorm rooms, but
some of them are pretty small and will typically house 2 and sometimes
3 students. Space is at a premium.

Both of my daughters have their beds "lofted" so that they can use the
area underneath for a futon. Since their beds are essentially the
highest surface level in the room, there really aren't "about 1000
other ways to position a clock radio so it is accessible from a bed" -
at least not in a location where it can easily be set/snoozed/reset
with a simple reach of the hand.

In the case where we used the shelf last year, the only other place
for the clock radio would have been on the window ledge which is
probably about 3 feet below the top of the matress and behind the
curtains. Not exactly a prime location for a clock radio. You wouldn't
even be able to *see* it from your pillow, never mind being able to
set/snooze/reset it easily. Imagine if you had to place your clock
radio on the floor, a foot beyond the head of your bed and behind a
curtain. How accessible would you consider that?

As a matter of fact, my daughters sleep in bunk beds at home and the
one in the top bunk has a similar corner shelf (screwed to the wall)
for her clock radio. She also has a second shelf that she uses to
charge her cell phone and ipod while keeping them within easy reach of
her bed. I made them for her bedroom many years ago and they work so
well that I made some more for their dorm rooms.

The corner shelf solution is ideal for a dorm room or any room with a
raised bed. My daughter has had comments like "Wow...I wish my dad
would make me one of those! It's only the mounting that's a bit of
pain when you don't want to/aren't allow to damage the walls.
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3m vhb tape. with a lower 45 support to prevent torquing the shelf off,
it might be impossible to remove, but it doesn't leave holes in the wall.


Right. He can say "I didn't damage the wall, I just added to it."

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Check this out.

http://www.dormco.com/Bed_Post_Shelf_p/dormco-bps.htm

--Vic


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On Aug 17, 11:45 am, "Bill Hall" wrote:
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I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room
wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the walls in
any way.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/


The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the
wall.


I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like
the look.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?


Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.


Thanks!


I would suggest a painters "push-up" pole. Use an appropriate sized
conduit
clamp , mount it to the shelf,around the pole. Then simply set the
push -up
against the wall and extend to get compression. Did a similar thing in a
rented apartment once, but with several shelves attached to the pole (mini
speakers.) For appearance sake, your daughter could wrap the pole with
some
snazzy type ribbon as a decoration!

Bill in Plano- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks Bill, that's an interesting concept.

Unfortunately I am not familiar with a "painters push-up pole" and
Googling the term wasn't much help (lots of hit for fiberglass attenna
masts).

Is it something I'll find if I run over to a big box store or
dedicated paint store?


Sorry I wasn't more specific DD. The pole is an extendable pole that screws
into/onto a paint roller that allows you to reach high places for painting
i.e.. ceilings, high walls. You loosen, extend to desired length and tighten
back up. Any paint,hardware, Big Box store carries them. HTH

Bill in Plano

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On Aug 17, 11:45 am, "Bill Hall" wrote:





"DerbyDad03" wrote in message


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I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room
wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the walls in
any way.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/


The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the
wall.


I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like
the look.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?


Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.


Thanks!


I would suggest a painters "push-up" pole. Use an appropriate sized
conduit
clamp , mount it to the shelf,around the pole. Then simply set the
push -up
against the wall and extend to get compression. Did a similar thing in a
rented apartment once, but with several shelves attached to the pole (mini
speakers.) For appearance sake, your daughter could wrap the pole with
some
snazzy type ribbon as a decoration!


Bill in Plano- Hide quoted text -


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Thanks Bill, that's an interesting concept.

Unfortunately I am not familiar with a "painters push-up pole" and
Googling the term wasn't much help (lots of hit for fiberglass attenna
masts).

Is it something I'll find if I run over to a big box store or
dedicated paint store?

Sorry I wasn't more specific DD. The pole is an extendable pole that screws
into/onto a paint roller that allows you to reach high places for painting
i.e.. ceilings, high walls. You loosen, extend to desired length and tighten
back up. Any paint,hardware, Big Box store carries them. HTH

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Yeah...went over to HD during lunch and checked out the extension
poles. It's a thought that I'll keep in mind.
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On Aug 17, 1:16*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:42:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03

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Check this out.

http://www.dormco.com/Bed_Post_Shelf_p/dormco-bps.htm

--Vic


One major issue with those units:

Dad didn't make them for his daughters. ;-)

I'll show them to my daughters and see what they think.

Thanks!
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On Aug 17, 12:42*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I don't know how much time you've spent in college dorm rooms, but
some of them are pretty small and will typically house 2 and sometimes
3 students. Space is at a premium.


Only about 4 years...

Both of my daughters have their beds "lofted" so that they can use the
area underneath for a futon. Since their beds are essentially the
highest surface level in the room, there really aren't "about 1000
other ways to position a clock radio so it is accessible from a bed" -
at least not in a location where it can easily be set/snoozed/reset
with a simple reach of the hand.


Had a loft in the dorm room for two years, so I know all about it. The
platforms on mine were about 12" wider than the mattresses. Plus we
had a shelf that ran between the bed platforms on the window end of
the room. Plenty of places to put a clock radio without fretting over
an impossible task. I had my stereo and my meager CD collection up
there too.

Heck, you can even screw the shelf to the loft. Fasten an upright post
in the corner and put the shelf on the post.
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On Aug 17, 2:30*pm, wrote:
On Aug 17, 12:42*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I don't know how much time you've spent in college dorm rooms, but
some of them are pretty small and will typically house 2 and sometimes
3 students. Space is at a premium.


Only about 4 years...

Both of my daughters have their beds "lofted" so that they can use the
area underneath for a futon. Since their beds are essentially the
highest surface level in the room, there really aren't "about 1000
other ways to position a clock radio so it is accessible from a bed" -
at least not in a location where it can easily be set/snoozed/reset
with a simple reach of the hand.


Had a loft in the dorm room for two years, so I know all about it. The
platforms on mine were about 12" wider than the mattresses. Plus we
had a shelf that ran between the bed platforms on the window end of
the room. Plenty of places to put a clock radio without fretting over
an impossible task. I had my stereo and my meager CD collection up
there too.

Heck, you can even screw the shelf to the loft. Fasten an upright post
in the corner and put the shelf on the post.


2 girls in 2 different colleges:

Platforms are no wider than the mattresses.

No shelf between the bed and window/wall.

I can't screw anything to the "loft": They're metal bunk frames and
I'd probably get in just as much trouble ($) if I drilled holes in the
bed frames. Clamping a shelf to the bed posts might be an option, but
putting the shelf in an otherwise unused corner is really the best
place for it. It can be seen from anywhere in the room since it faces
out and it's easily reachable by the person in the bed.

An upright post is an option, but both the girls are both being moved
into their rooms which are 200 miles apart and 300 miles from home on
the same day - this coming Sunday. I don't have a lot of time to rig
something up in the short time period that I'll be spending in each
room and driving the 700 mile loop it's going to take to get them to
their schools.

As far as "fretting over an impossible task", you must not be reading
my posts very thoroughly. I have stated more than once that I have
mounted one shelf with velcro and a dowel set at 45 degrees and it
worked fine all last year. In fact, it's been mounted and unmounted 3
times over 3 semesters. All I was asking for was a suggestion that
eliminated the dowel since it looks much "cleaner" without it. The
task is not only far from "impossible", it's extremely doable and has
been done multiple times before.

I've already made the shelf for my other daughter and I've cut the
dowel in case I need it, but if a non-dowel suggestion comes along,
I'll welcome it and use it in both rooms. There's not a lot of
"fretting" going on...just a Dad looking for another option.


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On Aug 17, 3:03*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:30*pm, wrote:









On Aug 17, 12:42*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:


I don't know how much time you've spent in college dorm rooms, but
some of them are pretty small and will typically house 2 and sometimes
3 students. Space is at a premium.


Only about 4 years...


Both of my daughters have their beds "lofted" so that they can use the
area underneath for a futon. Since their beds are essentially the
highest surface level in the room, there really aren't "about 1000
other ways to position a clock radio so it is accessible from a bed" -
at least not in a location where it can easily be set/snoozed/reset
with a simple reach of the hand.


Had a loft in the dorm room for two years, so I know all about it. The
platforms on mine were about 12" wider than the mattresses. Plus we
had a shelf that ran between the bed platforms on the window end of
the room. Plenty of places to put a clock radio without fretting over
an impossible task. I had my stereo and my meager CD collection up
there too.


Heck, you can even screw the shelf to the loft. Fasten an upright post
in the corner and put the shelf on the post.


2 girls in 2 different colleges:

Platforms are no wider than the mattresses.

No shelf between the bed and window/wall.

I can't screw anything to the "loft": They're metal bunk frames and
I'd probably get in just as much trouble ($) if I drilled holes in the
bed frames. Clamping a shelf to the bed posts might be an option, but
putting the shelf in an otherwise unused corner is really the best
place for it. It can be seen from anywhere in the room since it faces
out and it's easily reachable by the person in the bed.


Band clamps a couple corner brackets to the bed and screw your shelf
to the brackets.

What's the next project we're working on...?

R
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On 08/17/11 4:10 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 17, 3:03 pm, wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:30 pm, wrote:









On Aug 17, 12:42 pm, wrote:


I don't know how much time you've spent in college dorm rooms, but
some of them are pretty small and will typically house 2 and sometimes
3 students. Space is at a premium.


Only about 4 years...


Both of my daughters have their beds "lofted" so that they can use the
area underneath for a futon. Since their beds are essentially the
highest surface level in the room, there really aren't "about 1000
other ways to position a clock radio so it is accessible from a bed" -
at least not in a location where it can easily be set/snoozed/reset
with a simple reach of the hand.


Had a loft in the dorm room for two years, so I know all about it. The
platforms on mine were about 12" wider than the mattresses. Plus we
had a shelf that ran between the bed platforms on the window end of
the room. Plenty of places to put a clock radio without fretting over
an impossible task. I had my stereo and my meager CD collection up
there too.


Heck, you can even screw the shelf to the loft. Fasten an upright post
in the corner and put the shelf on the post.


2 girls in 2 different colleges:

Platforms are no wider than the mattresses.

No shelf between the bed and window/wall.

I can't screw anything to the "loft": They're metal bunk frames and
I'd probably get in just as much trouble ($) if I drilled holes in the
bed frames. Clamping a shelf to the bed posts might be an option, but
putting the shelf in an otherwise unused corner is really the best
place for it. It can be seen from anywhere in the room since it faces
out and it's easily reachable by the person in the bed.


Band clamps a couple corner brackets to the bed and screw your shelf
to the brackets.

What's the next project we're working on...?

R


As noted in an earlier post, the bed frame does not extend above the
mattress. In addition, a shelf attached to the frame itself couldn't be
on any post against a wall and on any other side would stick out into
the room.

Now, if a post was band clamped to the frame and the shelf was attached
to the post, that might raise it to a usable height.

That's something I'll consider...
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On Aug 17, 6:17*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 08/17/11 4:10 PM, RicodJour wrote:









On Aug 17, 3:03 pm, *wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:30 pm, wrote:


On Aug 17, 12:42 pm, *wrote:


I don't know how much time you've spent in college dorm rooms, but
some of them are pretty small and will typically house 2 and sometimes
3 students. Space is at a premium.


Only about 4 years...


Both of my daughters have their beds "lofted" so that they can use the
area underneath for a futon. Since their beds are essentially the
highest surface level in the room, there really aren't "about 1000
other ways to position a clock radio so it is accessible from a bed" -
at least not in a location where it can easily be set/snoozed/reset
with a simple reach of the hand.


Had a loft in the dorm room for two years, so I know all about it. The
platforms on mine were about 12" wider than the mattresses. Plus we
had a shelf that ran between the bed platforms on the window end of
the room. Plenty of places to put a clock radio without fretting over
an impossible task. I had my stereo and my meager CD collection up
there too.


Heck, you can even screw the shelf to the loft. Fasten an upright post
in the corner and put the shelf on the post.


2 girls in 2 different colleges:


Platforms are no wider than the mattresses.


No shelf between the bed and window/wall.


I can't screw anything to the "loft": They're metal bunk frames and
I'd probably get in just as much trouble ($) if I drilled holes in the
bed frames. Clamping a shelf to the bed posts might be an option, but
putting the shelf in an otherwise unused corner is really the best
place for it. It can be seen from anywhere in the room since it faces
out and it's easily reachable by the person in the bed.


Band clamps a couple corner brackets to the bed and screw your shelf
to the brackets.


What's the next project we're working on...? *


R


As noted in an earlier post, the bed frame does not extend above the
mattress. In addition, a shelf attached to the frame itself couldn't be
on any post against a wall and on any other side would stick out into
the room.


You're being an obstructionist.

Now, if a post was band clamped to the frame and the shelf was attached
to the post, that might raise it to a usable height.


That's the ticket!

That's something I'll consider...


You could do it six ways from Tuesday with band clamps that wouldn't
mar the wall or the bed frame and it would be positionable whereever
your daughters thought it worked best. One of the hardest things
about being a designer is letting go and allowing something to be used
in the wrong place or the wrong way just because the recipient prefers
it that way.

R
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On 8/17/2011 8:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/

The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.

I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?

Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.

Thanks!


Nobody else suggested it, so I will- one or two of those poles with the
rubber pads on the end, like they use in trucks to keep cargo from
shifting. HF has cheap ones for around 20 bucks. Put in corner, jack
till tight, and clamp or bolt your shelf to it. Maybe this is what the
other guy meant by painter's push pole. For safety, I do recommend
through-drilling once in place, and putting a hairpin clip (like used on
trailers and scaffolding) through the overlapping parts of the tube.
That is in case somebody starts playing with it during a dorm party. If
not that, use a lot of zip ties to keep people from pressing the release
button. You'll understand once you see it.

Me, I'd just use a pretty 4x4 with 12" square 3/4 plywood plates screwed
to top and bottom, with shims under the bottom plate hammered into place
till pole is tight against ceiling. If dorm has the usual textured
gunnite on the concrete ceiling, a square of the white styrofoam is
called for to keep from leaving a mark. A portable saw and cordless
drill in trunk of car would making fitting it in on move-in day, a
matter of a few minutes.

Ah- memories- building shelves and stereo racks and loft beds, for young
ladies living in dorms.... (fat lot of good it did me, though their
daddies did thank me.)

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On Aug 17, 7:50*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/

The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.

I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?

Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.

Thanks!


go back to the 45 support and hang some frilly stuff around the curve
to cover up the dowel.


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On 08/17/11 4:10 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 17, 3:03 pm, wrote:
On Aug 17, 2:30 pm, wrote:









On Aug 17, 12:42 pm, wrote:

I don't know how much time you've spent in college dorm rooms, but
some of them are pretty small and will typically house 2 and
sometimes 3 students. Space is at a premium.

Only about 4 years...

Both of my daughters have their beds "lofted" so that they can use
the area underneath for a futon. Since their beds are essentially
the highest surface level in the room, there really aren't "about
1000 other ways to position a clock radio so it is accessible from
a bed" - at least not in a location where it can easily be
set/snoozed/reset with a simple reach of the hand.

Had a loft in the dorm room for two years, so I know all about it.
The platforms on mine were about 12" wider than the mattresses.
Plus we had a shelf that ran between the bed platforms on the
window end of the room. Plenty of places to put a clock radio
without fretting over an impossible task. I had my stereo and my
meager CD collection up there too.

Heck, you can even screw the shelf to the loft. Fasten an upright
post in the corner and put the shelf on the post.

2 girls in 2 different colleges:

Platforms are no wider than the mattresses.

No shelf between the bed and window/wall.

I can't screw anything to the "loft": They're metal bunk frames and
I'd probably get in just as much trouble ($) if I drilled holes in
the bed frames. Clamping a shelf to the bed posts might be an
option, but putting the shelf in an otherwise unused corner is
really the best place for it. It can be seen from anywhere in the
room since it faces out and it's easily reachable by the person in
the bed.


Band clamps a couple corner brackets to the bed and screw your shelf
to the brackets.

What's the next project we're working on...?

R


As noted in an earlier post, the bed frame does not extend above the
mattress. In addition, a shelf attached to the frame itself couldn't
be on any post against a wall and on any other side would stick out
into the room.

Now, if a post was band clamped to the frame and the shelf was
attached to the post, that might raise it to a usable height.

That's something I'll consider...


do they still make those bathroom shelving units that have two spring-
loaded floor-to-ceiling vertical poles that support shelves between
them,for over the toilet tank?
IIRC,they were sold at Target and other similar stores,and probably at
Bed,Bath,and Beyond.

you could use it as-is,or use one pole alone with a homemade shelf as
someone else here suggested earlier.

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On Aug 17, 8:32*pm, aemeijers wrote:
On 8/17/2011 8:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:









I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/


The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.


I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?


Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.


Thanks!


Nobody else suggested it, so I will- one or two of those poles with the
rubber pads on the end, like they use in trucks to keep cargo from
shifting. HF has cheap ones for around 20 bucks. Put in corner, jack
till tight, and clamp or bolt your shelf to it. Maybe this is what the
other guy meant by painter's push pole. For safety, I do recommend
through-drilling once in place, and putting a hairpin clip (like used on
trailers and scaffolding) through the overlapping parts of the tube.
That is in case somebody starts playing with it during a dorm party. If
not that, use a lot of zip ties to keep people from pressing the release
button. You'll understand once you see it.

Me, I'd just use a pretty 4x4 with 12" square 3/4 plywood plates screwed
to top and bottom, with shims under the bottom plate hammered into place
till pole is tight against ceiling. If dorm has the usual textured
gunnite on the concrete ceiling, a square of the white styrofoam is
called for to keep from leaving a mark. *A portable saw and cordless
drill in trunk of car would making fitting it in on move-in day, a
matter of a few minutes.

Ah- memories- building shelves and stereo racks and loft beds, for young
ladies living in dorms.... (fat lot of good it did me, though their
daddies did thank me.)

--
aem sends...


Whilst I was hanging by the hotel pool last night (move in day is
today) the wife went out and bought one of these:

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...p?SKU=15120444

It might not be tall enough, but we'll see.

I may have a corner shelf for sale. Stay tuned!
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On Aug 21, 7:27*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:32*pm, aemeijers wrote:





On 8/17/2011 8:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


I need to mount the corner shelf in this picture on my daughter's dorm
room wall. I am not allowed to drill holes in the wall or damage the
walls in any way.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...lockshelf.jpg/


The shelf is to hold a clock radio. Last year I used strips of Velcro on
the sides and it held for a few months, but eventually the weight of the
clock and it's use (pushing buttons) caused the Velcro to pull off of
the wall.


I then added the dowel (again using Velcro) mounted at a 45 degree angle
below the shelf to support the front and it worked fine, but I didn't
like the look.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to mount the shelf so that it
holds without the dowel? 3M Command strips? Removable Silicon adhesive?


Yes, I am aware that any surface mount that I use could fail because of
the paint on the walls, but let's assume that the paint will hold.


Thanks!


Nobody else suggested it, so I will- one or two of those poles with the
rubber pads on the end, like they use in trucks to keep cargo from
shifting. HF has cheap ones for around 20 bucks. Put in corner, jack
till tight, and clamp or bolt your shelf to it. Maybe this is what the
other guy meant by painter's push pole. For safety, I do recommend
through-drilling once in place, and putting a hairpin clip (like used on
trailers and scaffolding) through the overlapping parts of the tube.
That is in case somebody starts playing with it during a dorm party. If
not that, use a lot of zip ties to keep people from pressing the release
button. You'll understand once you see it.


Me, I'd just use a pretty 4x4 with 12" square 3/4 plywood plates screwed
to top and bottom, with shims under the bottom plate hammered into place
till pole is tight against ceiling. If dorm has the usual textured
gunnite on the concrete ceiling, a square of the white styrofoam is
called for to keep from leaving a mark. *A portable saw and cordless
drill in trunk of car would making fitting it in on move-in day, a
matter of a few minutes.


Ah- memories- building shelves and stereo racks and loft beds, for young
ladies living in dorms.... (fat lot of good it did me, though their
daddies did thank me.)


--
aem sends...


Whilst I was hanging by the hotel pool last night (move in day is
today) the wife went out and bought one of these:

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...p?SKU=15120444

It might not be tall enough, but we'll see.

I may have a corner shelf for sale. Stay tuned!- Hide quoted text -

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Well, as it turned out, my 2nd daughter's dorm room has no corners.

By that I mean this:

On the window wall, the windows come within 3" of the side walls, so
there is no wall space on the window wall to mount the shelf to.

On the opposite wall (not that we would mount the shelf on that wall
anyway) the door is on one side and a typical dorm room open "closet"
on the other.

In other words, there isn't one corner where a corner shelf could be
mounted directly to 2 walls.

Luckily the wife bought one of these so that daughter is all set:

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...p?SKU=15120444

Now, in my 1st daughter's new dorm rooom (the daughter who has been
using a shelf like that for years) I mounted the shelf with 8 pairs of
the Medium 3M Command picture hanging strips, 4 pairs per side.

The strips themselves are certainly strong enough, so as long as the
paint holds, she should be all set. The Command strips seem much more
secure than the adhesive backed Velcro did.

Thanks for all the suggestions!
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I didn't have time to read all the responses so I'm sorry if this is a repeat of someone else. I have had great success with the 3M command strips both in hanging pictures and some wighty objects from our walls. I would double duty it and use the picture frame holders as stands and set the shelf on top of those towards the ends and maybe a couple of the velco kind one on each side of part that goes in the corner to keep it there. and If it doesn't balance well on the picture frame holders I might try a rubber band between them wrapped a couple times around the "nail" parts of the hangers. Hope this helps.
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