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Hello all,
I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? |
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The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Have you tried shoving 3000 loaves of bread into the pipe as a temporary absorbent? |
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The Fisherman wrote:
I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? If the pressure is low enough the hose clamp works, a Fernco coupling would probably also work. -- |
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On Oct 7, 10:38 am, The Fisherman wrote:
Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? This oughta work: http://www.fernco.com/QCHose.asp |
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On Oct 7, 10:45 am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Have you tried shoving 3000 loaves of bread into the pipe as a temporary absorbent?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How about temporarily plugging it, then freezing a section farther back? I think plumbers use this technique. Not sure on what the best way to freeze it would be. |
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On Oct 7, 7:38 am, The Fisherman wrote:
Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? The operation is simple. Buy a valve that will fit the pipe. Open it, Place it on the pipe. Close the valve. Yes, you will probably get wet doing it but it isn't harmful. That is the short version. I would prepare a string of fittings beginning with one that fits the pipe and sizing down to a 1" or 3/4" then fit it. Being PVC you might have a problem glueing a fitting on due to the wetness. If so, use a fernco connector. There are also connectors with 'rubber' gaskets and screw ends that repair pipe leaks. Memory is fading at my age and I can't recall the technical name of them. Harry K |
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Look in the sewer fittings department at the store and they have rubber hose
clamp fittings where you can attach a pipe at both ends then clamp down with the hose clamps. So on one end of the hose clamp fitting, install a series of fittings to attach a valve, then stick the whole works onto your pipe and tighten down. This will work if the water is low pressure. "The Fisherman" wrote in message Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? |
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On Oct 7, 8:32 am, "Bill" wrote:
Look in the sewer fittings department at the store and they have rubber hose clamp fittings where you can attach a pipe at both ends then clamp down with the hose clamps. So on one end of the hose clamp fitting, install a series of fittings to attach a valve, then stick the whole works onto your pipe and tighten down. This will work if the water is low pressure. "The Fisherman" wrote in message Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It'll work even under high pressure. You open the valve before fitting the lash up. BTDT working with around 60 psi. Harry K |
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The Fisherman wrote:
Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? there is wet use pvc glue. |
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The Fisherman wrote:
Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Oil well blow-out specialists manage to cap wells that are spewing 50,000 gallons per minute AND on fire! While being shot at. In the dark. It can be done. Check he http://www.bootsandcoots.com/History/history.htm |
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HeyBub wrote:
.... Oil well blow-out specialists manage to cap wells that are spewing 50,000 gallons per minute AND on fire! ... In the dark. Hmmm....where do they get that dark-burning fire???? -- |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:50:21 -0700, DerbyDad03
wrote: On Oct 7, 10:38 am, The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? This oughta work: http://www.fernco.com/QCHose.asp Thanks to all of you that answered this thread. One guy mentioned wet-use PVC cement. I've never seen any. Does anyone know of a particular brand of this that works well? I would like to build onto this pipe and would like to glue it if possible. The clamp on rubber fittings will work for now. Thanks again! |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:01:14 -0500, dpb wrote:
HeyBub wrote: ... Oil well blow-out specialists manage to cap wells that are spewing 50,000 gallons per minute AND on fire! ... In the dark. Hmmm....where do they get that dark-burning fire???? Antiluminescent powder is one of things the secret world government organization called DJE is supposed to be suppressing knowledge of, but one of the yorxl starships carrying it crashed in Kuwait in 1990. DJE agents failed to kill everyone who found out about it. |
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Merlin wrote:
Thanks to all of you that answered this thread. One guy mentioned wet-use PVC cement. I've never seen any. Does anyone know of a particular brand of this that works well? I would like to build onto this pipe and would like to glue it if possible. The clamp on rubber fittings will work for now. get a small length of rubber hose that just fits inside existing pipe. this will allow water to flow through this hose and keep edge of pvc dry for gluing. Slide the fitting over this sleeve and prime and glue treaded fitting onto existing pipe while most of the water flows through the hose you have jammed in. remove hose when done and add spigot to treaded connection. I got the wet-use glue at HD last time I worked on well, cpl weeks ago because of drought and too much watering blew the pvc threaded fitting out of the top of the jet pump because of sucking air I think. Switched to galv to straight pipe to house. |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:18:02 -0400, Slob wrote:
Merlin wrote: Thanks to all of you that answered this thread. One guy mentioned wet-use PVC cement. I've never seen any. Does anyone know of a particular brand of this that works well? I would like to build onto this pipe and would like to glue it if possible. The clamp on rubber fittings will work for now. get a small length of rubber hose that just fits inside existing pipe. this will allow water to flow through this hose and keep edge of pvc dry for gluing. Slide the fitting over this sleeve and prime and glue treaded fitting onto existing pipe while most of the water flows through the hose you have jammed in. remove hose when done and add spigot to treaded connection. I got the wet-use glue at HD last time I worked on well, cpl weeks ago because of drought and too much watering blew the pvc threaded fitting out of the top of the jet pump because of sucking air I think. Switched to galv to straight pipe to house. Thanks, that trick didn't occur to me. Good idea! |
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The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Prepare all your hardware in advance. Rent or borrow a 10 GPM pump and a use a long suction hose to get as close to the bottom as possible. Yank the hose out of the well when it starts sucking air, slap on your hardware (valve open, of course) and by the time the water arrives again your glue should be set just fine. HTH Joe |
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On Oct 7, 4:22 pm, Merlin wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:18:02 -0400, Slob wrote: Merlin wrote: Thanks to all of you that answered this thread. One guy mentioned wet-use PVC cement. I've never seen any. Does anyone know of a particular brand of this that works well? I would like to build onto this pipe and would like to glue it if possible. The clamp on rubber fittings will work for now. get a small length of rubber hose that just fits inside existing pipe. this will allow water to flow through this hose and keep edge of pvc dry for gluing. Slide the fitting over this sleeve and prime and glue treaded fitting onto existing pipe while most of the water flows through the hose you have jammed in. remove hose when done and add spigot to treaded connection. I got the wet-use glue at HD last time I worked on well, cpl weeks ago because of drought and too much watering blew the pvc threaded fitting out of the top of the jet pump because of sucking air I think. Switched to galv to straight pipe to house. Thanks, that trick didn't occur to me. Good idea!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The 'compression coupler' that I couldn't recall the name of is a "Dressler Coupling" - available in both PVC and Galv. Would make a better looking and firmer connection than the clamp on style. Probably a lot more dollars than the clamp on though. Harry K |
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Use a pneumatic pipe plug made for your well pipe size, they pump up with a
bicycle tire pump, if it holds the flow install your valve setup so you can extract your pipe plug. Depending on the pipe plug this may mean you go to a larger valve, probably a gate valve. If you can't find a glued setup that allows you to extract the pneumatic plug though the valve, just glue on a threaded adapter so you have threads to work with. "The Fisherman" wrote in message ... Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? |
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I was thinking of substitutes for the commercial plug. Do you think a bicycle
innertube could be shoved in with a rod and inflated to seal it diring the addition? You'd need to be able to pull it back out through the valve after deflating. Bob "Jeff Dieterle" wrote in message ... Use a pneumatic pipe plug made for your well pipe size, they pump up with a bicycle tire pump, if it holds the flow install your valve setup so you can extract your pipe plug. Depending on the pipe plug this may mean you go to a larger valve, probably a gate valve. If you can't find a glued setup that allows you to extract the pneumatic plug though the valve, just glue on a threaded adapter so you have threads to work with. "The Fisherman" wrote in message ... Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? |
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On Oct 9, 4:12 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
I was thinking of substitutes for the commercial plug. Do you think a bicycle innertube could be shoved in with a rod and inflated to seal it diring the addition? You'd need to be able to pull it back out through the valve after deflating. Bob "Jeff Dieterle" wrote in message ... Use a pneumatic pipe plug made for your well pipe size, they pump up with a bicycle tire pump, if it holds the flow install your valve setup so you can extract your pipe plug. Depending on the pipe plug this may mean you go to a larger valve, probably a gate valve. If you can't find a glued setup that allows you to extract the pneumatic plug though the valve, just glue on a threaded adapter so you have threads to work with. "The Fisherman" wrote in message .. . Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I'd like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it's running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Soccer ball? Football bladder? Harry K |
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tofu wrote:
responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ll-256123-.htm tofu wrote: The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I\'d like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it\'s running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Get a short length of rubber hose with an inside diameter the same as the O.D. of the pipe, and another chunk of PVC pipe the same diameter with valve and fitting attached. Slip the hose over the end of the new pipe and attach it with a hose clamp. Open the valve, push the other end of the hose over the well pipe, and clamp it on also. Then close the valve. |
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On Jun 24, 10:05*am, "Bob F" wrote:
tofu wrote: responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...esian-well-256... tofu wrote: The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I\'d like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it\'s running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Get a short length of rubber hose with an inside diameter the same as the O.D. of the pipe, and another chunk of PVC pipe the same diameter with valve and fitting attached. Slip the hose over the end of the new pipe and attach it with a hose clamp. Open the valve, push the other end of the hose over the well pipe, and clamp it on also. Then close the valve.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Get a inflatable stiopper with air extension hose. Install it and inflate. Install a ball valve passing the hose and chain from the stopper through it while installing. Take care not to let pvc glue run down onthe stopper. Deflate and remove the stopper when the glue has dried. That's how a pro would do it. |
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tofu wrote:
responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ll-256123-.htm tofu wrote: The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I\'d like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it\'s running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Use a rubber coupling. Also I think there's blue PVC cement for wet use. You could glue on a thread adapter. Don't screw on the cap or a valve until the glue sets. Bob |
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zxcvbob writes:
tofu wrote: responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ll-256123-.htm tofu wrote: The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I\'d like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it\'s running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Use a rubber coupling. Also I think there's blue PVC cement for wet use. You could glue on a thread adapter. Don't screw on the cap or a valve until the glue sets. Dry ice held to outside of pipe will stop it in seconds. Only a small piece needed. I've done it to a main under city water pressure to repair the main shutoff. -- Dan Espen |
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wrote:
zxcvbob writes: tofu wrote: responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ll-256123-.htm tofu wrote: The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I\'d like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it\'s running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Use a rubber coupling. Also I think there's blue PVC cement for wet use. You could glue on a thread adapter. Don't screw on the cap or a valve until the glue sets. Dry ice held to outside of pipe will stop it in seconds. Only a small piece needed. I've done it to a main under city water pressure to repair the main shutoff. On PVC pipe?? It's not very thermally conductive. |
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"Bob F" writes:
wrote: zxcvbob writes: tofu wrote: responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ll-256123-.htm tofu wrote: The Fisherman wrote: Hello all, I have an artesian well that has been disconnected from my house and is now only a 1 5/8" inch PVC pipe sticking out of the ground in my front yard. It flows at about 5 gallons per/minute. I currently have a plastic cap on it with a hose clamp to stop it from running. I\'d like to put a hose bib on it so that I can use the water in various uses when I want to. How in the world can I work with this? How can I glue anything to this pipe while it\'s running? Is there some method that would allow me to cap this thing properly where I could then add on to this system? Getting a valve into the line is my problem. How can I put a valve into this line? Use a rubber coupling. Also I think there's blue PVC cement for wet use. You could glue on a thread adapter. Don't screw on the cap or a valve until the glue sets. Dry ice held to outside of pipe will stop it in seconds. Only a small piece needed. I've done it to a main under city water pressure to repair the main shutoff. On PVC pipe?? It's not very thermally conductive. Don't know. I did it on galvanized wrapped in lead. This was a 2 inch main gushing water at a pretty good rate. Just checked, you're right PVC isn't very conductive at all. My guess is that it would still work. You could stuff the dry ice directly into the water flow I suppose. I doesn't sound like this well is generating a lot of pressure. Just take a chunk and push it into the water flow. My story is that I got a quote for 2.5K to repair the leaking valve. All of the cost was digging up the street. I already had a replacement valve. My neighbor told me about this. 5 bucks worth of dry ice vs. a $2500 repair bill. -- Dan Espen |
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stuff snipped My guess is that it would still work. You could stuff the dry ice directly into the water flow I suppose. I doesn't sound like this well is generating a lot of pressure. Just take a chunk and push it into the water flow. My story is that I got a quote for 2.5K to repair the leaking valve. All of the cost was digging up the street. I already had a replacement valve. My neighbor told me about this. 5 bucks worth of dry ice vs. a $2500 repair bill. Certainly seems worth a shot considering I can get dry ice for free from my Peapod driver. Good tip. -- Bobby G. |
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Robert Green wrote:
wrote in message ... stuff snipped My guess is that it would still work. You could stuff the dry ice directly into the water flow I suppose. I doesn't sound like this well is generating a lot of pressure. Just take a chunk and push it into the water flow. My story is that I got a quote for 2.5K to repair the leaking valve. All of the cost was digging up the street. I already had a replacement valve. My neighbor told me about this. 5 bucks worth of dry ice vs. a $2500 repair bill. Certainly seems worth a shot considering I can get dry ice for free from my Peapod driver. Good tip. -- Bobby G. You'll need to shut off the water flow with a temporary cap first, then it will probably work. Just freeze it from the outside (even though it's plastic pipe) and give it time to work. Be careful not to break the pipe while it's frozen. -Bob |
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