[John]

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, John

[Ed Pawlowski[_2_]]

"John" wrote in message
...
I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, John

Hard to guess precisely due to so many variable conditions. Here is a quick
helper though.
Most 3 tab shingles are rated as 20 year
Most architectural types are rated at 30 or more years.
Most don't last much longer than the original warranty period or life
rating.
If end are curled and braking, getting close to replacement time.
If you have leaks, it is at or very close to replacement time.

If a lot of shingles have to be removed for the work that needs to be done,
it may be time to replace. If you see signs of trouble, it may be worth
replacing so you have peace of mind for the next 20 or 30 years. If they
are still in good condition, why not wait a few more years and keep the
money in the bank.

[hr(bob) [email protected]]

On Apr 24, 9:16*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"John" wrote in message

....

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. *I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. *Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, *John

Hard to guess precisely due to so many variable conditions. *Here is a quick
helper though.
Most 3 tab shingles are rated as 20 year
Most architectural types are rated at 30 or more years.
Most don't last much longer than the original warranty period or life
rating.
If end are curled and braking, getting close to replacement time.
If you have leaks, it is at or very close to replacement time.

If a lot of shingles have to be removed for the work that needs to be done,
it may be time to replace. * If you see signs of trouble, it may be worth
replacing so you have peace of mind for the next 20 or 30 years. *If they
are still in good condition, why not wait a few more years and keep the
money in the bank.

It depends on how the solar water-heating panels are mounted. if they
can be easil;y moved when it is time to reroof, then you can wait a
few years. But, if it will be difficult to replace the shingles after
the solar panels are updated, then that is a good reason to do them
both at the same time. A photo of what the roof looks like at the
present time would be interesting. If you are not losing a lot of the
stone granules that are on the surface of the shingles, and theyu are
not curling up, they probably are good for at least five more years.
You don't say where you live, as that has some influence on shingle
life. Hot sumer sun or extensive repeated freezing=thawing cycles
both take a toll. IF you live in the middle band of the USA, that is
probably best for long shingle life.

[[email protected]]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:05 -0700 (PDT), John
wrote:

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, John
If you are on the roof to do solar panels and chimney I, personally,
would also be doing the roof.

However, there are a few things you can check. Are there any areas
where the "grit" is missing from the shingles? Any curled or loose?
Check the condition od a shingle at the edge of the roof. Is it either
brittle or "floppy"?

Having the roofers remove the solar panels and not damage them is a
REAL long shot - and it WILL cost you.

I'm in Ontario too, and 15 years is stretching the "average" roof.

[leonard hofstadter]

hr(bob) wrote:
On Apr 24, 9:16 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"John" wrote in message

...

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.
I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.
Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, John
Hard to guess precisely due to so many variable conditions. Here is a quick
helper though.
Most 3 tab shingles are rated as 20 year
Most architectural types are rated at 30 or more years.
Most don't last much longer than the original warranty period or life
rating.
If end are curled and braking, getting close to replacement time.
If you have leaks, it is at or very close to replacement time.

If a lot of shingles have to be removed for the work that needs to be done,
it may be time to replace. If you see signs of trouble, it may be worth
replacing so you have peace of mind for the next 20 or 30 years. If they
are still in good condition, why not wait a few more years and keep the
money in the bank.

It depends on how the solar water-heating panels are mounted. if they
can be easil;y moved when it is time to reroof, then you can wait a
few years. But, if it will be difficult to replace the shingles after
the solar panels are updated, then that is a good reason to do them
both at the same time. A photo of what the roof looks like at the
present time would be interesting. If you are not losing a lot of the
stone granules that are on the surface of the shingles, and theyu are
not curling up, they probably are good for at least five more years.
You don't say where you live,

you don't read very well :-P

as that has some influence on shingle
life. Hot sumer sun or extensive repeated freezing=thawing cycles
both take a toll. IF you live in the middle band of the USA, that is
probably best for long shingle life.

[mm]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:05 -0700 (PDT), John
wrote:

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, John

The part of the roof I could see looked good, while on the part I
couldn't see, the shingles were curling. That's because I could only
see from the ground the north side of the roof. It was much better
than the south side.

[Jim Elbrecht]

wrote:

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:05 -0700 (PDT), John
wrote:

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

-snip-

If you are on the roof to do solar panels and chimney I, personally,
would also be doing the roof.

Plus one on that. One giant mess for this season-- a long time
before you need to go through it again.

-snip-

Having the roofers remove the solar panels and not damage them is a
REAL long shot - and it WILL cost you.

And then having the roofers work around them in a couple years &
you're adding expense on that end.

Jim

[bob haller]

The part of the roof I could see looked good, while on the part I
couldn't see, the shingles were curling. *That's because I could only
see from the ground the north side of the roof. *It was much better
than the south side.-

The sun side weather side generally wear faster. With all that roof
work planned I would do everything. Just for peace of mind!

[Stormin Mormon]

Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"leonard hofstadter" wrote in message
...
hr(bob) wrote:
On Apr 24, 9:16 pm, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:
"John" wrote in message

the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. I moved into my
house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been
layed around

You don't say where you live,

you don't read very well :-P

[Ken[_6_]]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!



How did you determine he was referring to Ontario, NY? There is a city
named Ontario, CA as well.

[Stormin Mormon]

It's totally obvious to me. Living in NYS, Ontario Ny is
local. Everyone is local, right?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Ken" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!



How did you determine he was referring to Ontario, NY?
There is a city
named Ontario, CA as well.

[bob haller]

On Apr 25, 10:17*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
It's totally obvious to me. Living in NYS, Ontario Ny is
local. Everyone is local, right?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Ken" wrote in message

...

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!

How did you determine he was referring to Ontario, NY?
There is a city
named Ontario, CA as well.

theres also a ontario in canada

[Bob F]

bob haller wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:17 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
It's totally obvious to me. Living in NYS, Ontario Ny is
local. Everyone is local, right?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Ken" wrote in message

...

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!

How did you determine he was referring to Ontario, NY?
There is a city
named Ontario, CA as well.

theres also a ontario in canada

Which is what I assumed he was talking about. But then, I was raised in Detroit.

[Bob F]

bob haller wrote:
The part of the roof I could see looked good, while on the part I
couldn't see, the shingles were curling. That's because I could only
see from the ground the north side of the roof. It was much better
than the south side.-

The sun side weather side generally wear faster. With all that roof
work planned I would do everything. Just for peace of mind!

But then, that side is protected by the solar collectors.

[John]

On Apr 25, 11:10*am, "Bob F" wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:17 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
It's totally obvious to me. Living in NYS, Ontario Ny is
local. Everyone is local, right?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Ken" wrote in message

...

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!

How did you determine he was referring to Ontario, NY?
There is a city
named Ontario, CA as well.

theres also a ontario in canada

Which is what I assumed he was talking about. But then, I was raised in Detroit.

Yes, it would be Ontario Canada... Where there's lots of snow during
the winter.

[[email protected]]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:29:17 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Apr 24, 9:16Â*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"John" wrote in message

...

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. Â*I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. Â*Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Â*John

Hard to guess precisely due to so many variable conditions. Â*Here is a quick
helper though.
Most 3 tab shingles are rated as 20 year
Most architectural types are rated at 30 or more years.
Most don't last much longer than the original warranty period or life
rating.
If end are curled and braking, getting close to replacement time.
If you have leaks, it is at or very close to replacement time.

If a lot of shingles have to be removed for the work that needs to be done,
it may be time to replace. Â* If you see signs of trouble, it may be worth
replacing so you have peace of mind for the next 20 or 30 years. Â*If they
are still in good condition, why not wait a few more years and keep the
money in the bank.

It depends on how the solar water-heating panels are mounted. if they
can be easil;y moved when it is time to reroof, then you can wait a
few years. But, if it will be difficult to replace the shingles after
the solar panels are updated, then that is a good reason to do them
both at the same time. A photo of what the roof looks like at the
present time would be interesting. If you are not losing a lot of the
stone granules that are on the surface of the shingles, and theyu are
not curling up, they probably are good for at least five more years.
You don't say where you live, as that has some influence on shingle
life. Hot sumer sun or extensive repeated freezing=thawing cycles
both take a toll. IF you live in the middle band of the USA, that is
probably best for long shingle life.

He is in Ontario. Canada.

Good chance he gets strong summer sun and repeated freeze=thaw cycles.
Up here a 20 year roof virtually NEVER lasts 20 years.

[[email protected]]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:56:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!
Well, IF it is Ontario New York, his conditions will likely be
similar to Ontario, Canada - I STILL say do it now.

If he's in Ontario California - might be a different story.

[harry]

On Apr 25, 3:16*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"John" wrote in message

....

I'm wondering what the rule of thumb is for when you need to replace
the (asphalt) shingles on the roof. *I moved into my house (in
Ontario) 10 years ago, and I think the roof may have been layed around
5 years previous to that. *Having said that, I do need to get my
chimney repaired, and I need to replace the solar panels for the pool
both this year, so I'm wondering if it's worth my while to get the
shingles done at the same time or not.

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, *John

Hard to guess precisely due to so many variable conditions. *Here is a quick
helper though.
Most 3 tab shingles are rated as 20 year
Most architectural types are rated at 30 or more years.
Most don't last much longer than the original warranty period or life
rating.
If end are curled and braking, getting close to replacement time.
If you have leaks, it is at or very close to replacement time.

If a lot of shingles have to be removed for the work that needs to be done,
it may be time to replace. * If you see signs of trouble, it may be worth
replacing so you have peace of mind for the next 20 or 30 years. *If they
are still in good condition, why not wait a few more years and keep the
money in the bank.

Dunno why yo Yanks use shingles. Our roofing sytems are virtually
indestructable..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate#Slate_in_buildings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tile#Roof_tiles

[DGDevin]

"John" wrote in message
...

I'm wondering if there's any way to estimate the remaining life of the
shingles, and whether it's expensive to get shinglers to remove/
replace mounted solar panels if they have to work around them.

Call a few roofers and get them to take a look and give you a free estimate.
If two of them tell you your roof has five years left and the third tells
you it needs to be replaced yesterday, you know who to believe.

[willshak]

wrote the following:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:56:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!

Well, IF it is Ontario New York, his conditions will likely be
similar to Ontario, Canada - I STILL say do it now.

If he's in Ontario California - might be a different story.


See??? Thats why I put my location in my sig..
Ontario, NY
Ontario, California aka Ontario, CA
Ontario, Canada aka Ontario, CA .

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

[harry]

On Apr 25, 11:15*pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:19:24 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

Dunno why yo Yanks use shingles. Our roofing sytems are virtually
indestructable..

Hee-Haw

Hello donkey. Or would that be ass(hole).

[Smitty Two]

In article ,
willshak wrote:

wrote the following:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:56:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


Ontario, NY, 14519. D'uh!

Well, IF it is Ontario New York, his conditions will likely be
similar to Ontario, Canada - I STILL say do it now.

If he's in Ontario California - might be a different story.


See??? Thats why I put my location in my sig..
Ontario, NY
Ontario, California aka Ontario, CA
Ontario, Canada aka Ontario, CA .

I don't use a sig, but I think it's obvious in my case that I live in
Smittyville.