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When in police interrogation room, do you:
A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer,
B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...ew-room-99999/ What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On Aug 20, 9:19*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...mpted-rape-cau... What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. R |
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When in police interrogation room, do you:
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"HeyBub" wrote: What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? I certainly wouldn't shake his hand after the interview.... -- I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator and name it after the IRS. Robert Bakker, paleontologist |
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When in police interrogation room, do you:
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"HeyBub" wrote: What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? I'd wait until he was done, note what he wiped his hands on and then send it out for DNA testing. Don't need a warrant if he has abandoned the sample (another reason to not drink water, etc., while in custody) -- I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator and name it after the IRS. Robert Bakker, paleontologist |
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When in police interrogation room, do you:
On 2010-08-20, HeyBub wrote:
A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...ew-room-99999/ What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? A) Why do you care? B) why would you refer to your favorite appendage as "junk"? Hell, mine is not only NOT JUNK, it works better than new! nb |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On Aug 20, 9:26*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:19*am, "HeyBub" wrote: A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? *Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? *It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. I suspect the tendency of many to post OT are shut-ins/invalids/ retarded "nobody-to-anybody" and unmoderated Usenet is their only connection to the outside world. "Normal" people seem less inclined to post "Hey, look what I found, something on the internet about dicks!" ----- - gpsman |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:19 am, "HeyBub" wrote: A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...mpted-rape-cau... What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. My apologies. I posted to the wrong group. I intended it for a group where several of us ex- and current law enforcement officers hang out. I assure you that I/we/they think it's entertaining, but of course cops have a wildly different sense of humor from that of normal folk. I used to introduce myself as "...I'm in solid waste disposal. I'm a deputy sheriff." |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m... RicodJour wrote: On Aug 20, 9:19 am, "HeyBub" wrote: A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...mpted-rape-cau... What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. My apologies. I posted to the wrong group. I intended it for a group where several of us ex- and current law enforcement officers hang out. I assure you that I/we/they think it's entertaining, but of course cops have a wildly different sense of humor from that of normal folk. I used to introduce myself as "...I'm in solid waste disposal. I'm a deputy sheriff." You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On Aug 20, 8:26*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:19*am, "HeyBub" wrote: A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...mpted-rape-cau... What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? *Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? *It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. R C'mon now. Do you really want somebody jerking off in a soup kitchen or library? |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On Aug 20, 9:33*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
RicodJour wrote: On Aug 20, 9:19 am, "HeyBub" wrote: A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...mpted-rape-cau.... What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? *Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? *It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. My apologies. I posted to the wrong group. I intended it for a group where several of us ex- and current law enforcement officers hang out. I assure you that I/we/they think it's entertaining, but of course cops have a wildly different sense of humor from that of normal folk. I used to introduce myself as "...I'm in solid waste disposal. I'm a deputy sheriff." How about, "Lets go down to the police station for a Pig Knuckle Sandwich." |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On Aug 20, 8:26*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Aug 20, 9:19*am, "HeyBub" wrote: A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...mpted-rape-cau... What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? *Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? *It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How cant he take your response the wrong way, its funny rick and I enjoy his posts, its better than 94.398% of the posts in here by the ahr attendace viewed. I say shoot the guy, the cop thought it was a weapon, he is just unhappy anyway. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. HeyBub's only mentioned that 100 times, Joe, where have you been? But it's not the least bit ironic that law enforcement personnel are widely despised by the general public. They started it. The city cops around here treat everyone like pond scum, while prancing around in their skin tight gestapo uniforms and knee-high leather boots. Then they wonder why the referendum to fund a new police station went down to defeat 87-13. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. HeyBub's only mentioned that 100 times, Joe, where have you been? But it's not the least bit ironic that law enforcement personnel are widely despised by the general public. They started it. The city cops around here treat everyone like pond scum, while prancing around in their skin tight gestapo uniforms and knee-high leather boots. Then they wonder why the referendum to fund a new police station went down to defeat 87-13. I don't despise them as much as I pity some of them because they're idiots. In my neighborhood, they've completely bungled several burglary investigations, two of them because the cops didn't understand the law and had absolutel no common sense. And recently, I was pulled over after making a turn off an exit ramp onto a local road. The cop described the way he saw me do it and hinted that there was something wrong. I asked him to describe it again. What he described was a perfectly executed turn. I reached into my glove box, pulled out the NY driver's manual, turned to the page where it showed that I did the turn perfectly, and handed him the book. He mumbled something, went back to his car and pretended to do something important for a couple of minutes, and then let me go. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
Regarding police attitude - I've had a few traffic citations over the years for violations I've clearly been guilty of ... some issued with few words exchanged. But I've more often than not, been given a break, like the time I was doing 75 in a residential/business neighborhood, zoned at 25 mph. On my way to work at 5:00 AM, when the city wasn't even awake yet, I clocked 75 every morning to time the lights perfectly, and got away with it for a long while - there was never another vehicle in sight. Destined to happen, I caught the bubble gum machine flashing blue and red lights of a police cruiser in my rear view mirror one morning. Cop says, "Where ya headed?" Told him I was on my way to work - he told me to slow it down, and walked away. My personal contact with LEO's has always found 99% of them to be business like ... and polite. Doesn't hurt to treat a cop like a human being, either. Joe |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news HeyBub's only mentioned that 100 times, Joe, where have you been? But it's not the least bit ironic that law enforcement personnel are widely despised by the general public. They started it. The city cops around here treat everyone like pond scum, while prancing around in their skin tight gestapo uniforms and knee-high leather boots. Then they wonder why the referendum to fund a new police station went down to defeat 87-13. I have cops in the family and among my friends; they are all good folks. Having said that, in any profession there are people who should be in another line of work, and I've met cops who should not have been issued a badge and gun. Sadly there are entire police departments where a culture of arrogance has developed. It isn't an easy situation to correct either as it requires a serious and sustained commitment to change from the Chief on down, and that usually requires the public demand a cleanup in a loud voice. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
I intended it for a group where several of us ex- and current law enforcement officers hang out. I assure you that I/we/they think it's entertaining, but of course cops have a wildly different sense of humor from that of normal folk. I used to introduce myself as "...I'm in solid waste disposal. I'm a deputy sheriff." You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. Ex. My observation is that people are funny. If they're stressed a bit, the facade that allows them to function in society gets stripped away and they get even funnier. Ask a cop, EMT, fireman, ER worker, and the like, and they can tell you some hilarious stories. 'Course you've got to have a finely honed sense of humor to appreciate them. Here's one: Car passes me like I'm standing still one night about 3:00 a.m. Presently I catch up to him and pull him over. My partner and I ask the driver to step out of his car. This GIANT black dude pours out and trots back to us (I mean he is BIG, at least 6'6" and 300 pounds - I thought he must have been a linebacker for the Houston Oilers). "Where are you off to in such a hurry?" my partner asks. "Pussy, man!" says the driver. We look at each other. "Say what?" "Pussy, man! My old lady called. Said to get my black ass over to her place, she be in the mood! And officers, she ain't in the mood all that often!" My partner and I look at each other, shrug our shoulders and my partner says to the driver "Well, can't really give a man a ticket for that. Go on, get outta here, but take it easy, dude!" " 'Preciate it officers. Thank you." He jumps in his car and squeals his tires leaving the scene. So we two cops stand on the side of a deserted road, under the stars, each posting a small smile, gratified that in a tiny way we've made the world a better place.... |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On 8/20/2010 10:33 AM, HeyBub wrote:
RicodJour wrote: On Aug 20, 9:19 am, wrote: A Keep quiet and insist on a lawyer, B. Get your business straight with the law, C. Fondle your junk "[KANSAS CITY] A man taken into custody for rape allegations now faces obscenity charges after police say he was caught stroking himself inside a police interrogation room." "When police left [the suspect] in a police interrogation room he reportedly blocked the door with his chair, pulled out his penis and began to masturbate." http://hiphopwired.com/2010/08/19/ma...mpted-rape-cau... What would you think if you were the cop doing the interview and couldn't get back in the interview room? How would you write your report? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the **** is the matter with you? Do you honestly have nothing better to do with your time then post this junk? It's just sad. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or library and do something constructive. My apologies. I posted to the wrong group. I intended it for a group where several of us ex- and current law enforcement officers hang out. I assure you that I/we/they think it's entertaining, but of course cops have a wildly different sense of humor from that of normal folk. I used to introduce myself as "...I'm in solid waste disposal. I'm a deputy sheriff." I thought it was funny. The funniest and wildest emails I get are passed on from a retired state trooper relative. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"J O E" wrote in message
... Regarding police attitude - I've had a few traffic citations over the years for violations I've clearly been guilty of ... some issued with few words exchanged. But I've more often than not, been given a break, like the time I was doing 75 in a residential/business neighborhood, zoned at 25 mph. On my way to work at 5:00 AM, when the city wasn't even awake yet, I clocked 75 every morning to time the lights perfectly, and got away with it for a long while - there was never another vehicle in sight. Destined to happen, I caught the bubble gum machine flashing blue and red lights of a police cruiser in my rear view mirror one morning. Cop says, "Where ya headed?" Told him I was on my way to work - he told me to slow it down, and walked away. My personal contact with LEO's has always found 99% of them to be business like ... and polite. Doesn't hurt to treat a cop like a human being, either. Joe One of my more interesting ones involved a cop telling me that I was doing 60 in a 30 zone. I was driving an 82 Toyota Tercel 4 cyl. He he'd seen me waiting at a red light and that he'd hit me with the radar gun about 100 feet from the light. Clearly, that was absurd, since there's no way that Tercel could accelerate from 0 to 60 in 100 feet. But it didn't matter. He lied to the judge. The judge wasn't interested in mathematics, just money. But on the other hand, I was fairly clocked doing 85 in a 55 zone and I was on the way home from a gun range, so my handgun (in holster) was on the seat next to me. The lady trooper looked at it and said "license & registration, please, and leave that right where it is." Very businesslike. No big deal. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I intended it for a group where several of us ex- and current law enforcement officers hang out. I assure you that I/we/they think it's entertaining, but of course cops have a wildly different sense of humor from that of normal folk. I used to introduce myself as "...I'm in solid waste disposal. I'm a deputy sheriff." You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. Ex. My observation is that people are funny. My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:54:57 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote: My observation is that people are funny. If they're stressed a bit, the facade that allows them to function in society gets stripped away and they get even funnier. Ask a cop, EMT, fireman, ER worker, and the like, and they can tell you some hilarious stories. 'Course you've got to have a finely honed sense of humor to appreciate them. "Bob", the Safety Manager would give his Admission and Orientation lecture to new federal inmates: "Welcome to the Federal Bureau of Prisons!" "You're gonna meet some of the sorriest, no good sons a bitches you ever met. Some of them will be inmates." Humor on the job is what helped me. Had a note in the office. "If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport". |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:08:44 -0400, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: My observation is that people are funny. My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. I say yes sir, no sir. No need for him to charge me with "silent contempt". What happens when he charges me with reckless eye-ballin'? After 33 years, I was stopped this past year. The Officer refused my papers. He started telling about having the stop light fixed on the truck. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"Oren" wrote in message
... On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:08:44 -0400, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: My observation is that people are funny. My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. I say yes sir, no sir. No need for him to charge me with "silent contempt". What happens when he charges me with reckless eye-ballin'? After 33 years, I was stopped this past year. The Officer refused my papers. He started telling about having the stop light fixed on the truck. Hopefully, you were joking about silent contempt. Since this is usenet, you never know what sort of nonsense people actually believe. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
... My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. The last time I was pulled over the cop had grounds to be fairly unpleasant if he had chosen to, including writing me a couple of expensive tickets and having the vehicle towed away. But since I didn't try to bull**** him and admitted I had been an idiot (I didn't kiss his ass, I was just honest) he wrote me a little fix-it ticket and let us go on our way. In my experience *most* cops are not looking for opportunities to be assholes, but they can turn that on if you want to initiate that sort of exchange. And having known some folks who lived behind the Iron Curtain, I can assure you that your belief that U.S. cops and cops in the old Soviet Union and/or current Russia operate exactly the same is pure fantasy. E.g., Russian cops damn near have a price list pinned to their uniforms so you know what size bribe is appropriate to the situation--American cops get fired and go to jail for that sort of thing when they get caught. No, not all U.S. cops are saints, there are bad apples in most barrels and in some cases even the barrel itself can be messed up (e.g. New Orleans PD). But there is a world of difference between the police in the U.S. and the USSR. |
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OT When in police interrogation room, do you:
"HeyBub" wrote in message m... My observation is that people are funny. If they're stressed a bit, the facade that allows them to function in society gets stripped away and they get even funnier. A couple of times in recent years when we've gone through Customs after a foreign trip (or whatever they call Customs these days) the Customs/Homeland Security guy has been notably unpleasant. My wife has commented afterwards that the Customs agent was a jerk, and I tell her it is just as likely he was acting like a jerk to see what our reaction would be, like would we start sweating and stammering and fidgeting like we were nervous about something. And since we were cool and polite and didn't flip out he knew we either had nothing to hide or were really slick international criminals. Either way we've never had even the rudest Customs agent so much as ask to look in our luggage, I guess we must fit that dumbass middle-class taxpayer profile--heh heh. |
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On 08/20/2010 06:22 PM, DGDevin wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message m... My observation is that people are funny. If they're stressed a bit, the facade that allows them to function in society gets stripped away and they get even funnier. A couple of times in recent years when we've gone through Customs after a foreign trip (or whatever they call Customs these days) the Customs/Homeland Security guy has been notably unpleasant. My wife has commented afterwards that the Customs agent was a jerk, and I tell her it is just as likely he was acting like a jerk to see what our reaction would be, like would we start sweating and stammering and fidgeting like we were nervous about something. And since we were cool and polite and didn't flip out he knew we either had nothing to hide or were really slick international criminals. Either way we've never had even the rudest Customs agent so much as ask to look in our luggage, I guess we must fit that dumbass middle-class taxpayer profile--heh heh. Coming back from Japan earlier this year, I didn't have that experience... it was the security people at the airport when we were on our way out that were a PITA. Even they were reasonably nice, it was just the waiting in line for an hour to get somewhere else to wait in another line for an hour etc. that got wearing. The security and airport people in Japan itself were stereotypically pleasant, helpful, and polite, and the customs people on our return were efficient and professional. It was refreshing, however, how quickly the line at customs when entering Japan moved... it was at least as long as the security screening line in the US airport from which we departed, but they had it down to a production line... I think we only waited in line for maybe 15-20 minutes tops. I figured we'd be there at *least* an hour possibly two. Go Japanese dudes. Not sure whether that's due to more efficiency on the part of the employees, or the politeness and eagerness not to keep others waiting on the part of the passengers (or a little bit of both.) nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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"DGDevin" wrote in message
m... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. The last time I was pulled over the cop had grounds to be fairly unpleasant if he had chosen to, including writing me a couple of expensive tickets and having the vehicle towed away. But since I didn't try to bull**** him and admitted I had been an idiot (I didn't kiss his ass, I was just honest) he wrote me a little fix-it ticket and let us go on our way. In my experience *most* cops are not looking for opportunities to be assholes, but they can turn that on if you want to initiate that sort of exchange. And having known some folks who lived behind the Iron Curtain, I can assure you that your belief that U.S. cops and cops in the old Soviet Union and/or current Russia operate exactly the same is pure fantasy. E.g., Russian cops damn near have a price list pinned to their uniforms so you know what size bribe is appropriate to the situation--American cops get fired and go to jail for that sort of thing when they get caught. No, not all U.S. cops are saints, there are bad apples in most barrels and in some cases even the barrel itself can be messed up (e.g. New Orleans PD). But there is a world of difference between the police in the U.S. and the USSR. The fact remains that unless they have reason to believe you were involved in a crime, they have no grounds for asking where you're coming from or going to. The only time it may benefit you to answer the question is if you've had a couple of beers, the cop thinks you're OK, but he/she wants to know that you're headed home instead of another bar. This may be of interest to everyone in the discussion. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5833865&hl=en# |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: The fact remains that unless they have reason to believe you were involved in a crime, they have no grounds for asking where you're coming from or going to. The only time it may benefit you to answer the question is if you've had a couple of beers, the cop thinks you're OK, but he/she wants to know that you're headed home instead of another bar. Actually they have every grounds to ask the questions. They just have no grounds to do anything if you choose not to answer. You always ask the questions in case someone is dumb enough to say something they shouldn't. -- I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator and name it after the IRS. Robert Bakker, paleontologist |
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In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. Evidently something about either your appearance or your mannerisms makes you appear suspicious to them. I've been pulled over a number of times for a variety of traffic offenses under a variety of circumstances, and *never once* in my adult life have I been asked where I was going, or where I came from. I was asked that question a couple times as a teenager -- and it's a legitimate question. A sixteen-year-old out at midnight on a Thursday may be violating the law, or he may not, depending on whether he's coming home from work, a school event, church, etc. -- all ok -- or from his girlfriend's house, which is a curfew violation. |
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"J O E" wrote in message ... Regarding police attitude - I've had a few traffic citations over the years for violations I've clearly been guilty of ... some issued with few words exchanged. But I've more often than not, been given a break, like the time I was doing 75 in a residential/business neighborhood, zoned at 25 mph. On my way to work at 5:00 AM, when the city wasn't even awake yet, I clocked 75 every morning to time the lights perfectly, and got away with it for a long while - there was never another vehicle in sight. Destined to happen, I caught the bubble gum machine flashing blue and red lights of a police cruiser in my rear view mirror one morning. Cop says, "Where ya headed?" Told him I was on my way to work - he told me to slow it down, and walked away. My personal contact with LEO's has always found 99% of them to be business like ... and polite. Doesn't hurt to treat a cop like a human being, either. Joe 75 in a 25, and the bubble headed LEO let you go? You're an absolute idiot, as well as your LEO's. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. Having been stopped a few times and NOT given a ticket, I'll skip your advice and politely answer the question. Most times, they don't care much where you've been but want to make a brief conversation to see if you are slurring your words or other signs of driving impaired. I used to drive a desolate road at about 1:00 AM and usually a bit over the speed limit. I've been stopped, never cited. They are looking for the drunks on the way home from the bars. Speed limit is 45. One cop even told me at at 54, I'm OK, but at 55, it is ticket time. |
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"Cojoes" wrote 75 in a 25, and the bubble headed LEO let you go? You're an absolute idiot, as well as your LEO's. Not that hard to do. We have a road near us that has a speed limit of 45 in most places and rightly so. Where you get past all the homes and buildings, nothing but fields or woods on either side, and start down a long hill it is very easy to coast up to 70 or so and the speed limit drops to 25 for no sensible reason that I've been able to figure out. I've never seen anyone do less than 50 through there. |
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Cojoes wrote: "75 in a 25, and the bubble headed LEO let you go? You're an absolute idiot, as well as your LEO's." Can't dispute that - I was very young, and did some stupid things. I shudder to contemplate the implications of that behavior. Joe |
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J O E wrote:
Cojoes wrote: "75 in a 25, and the bubble headed LEO let you go? You're an absolute idiot, as well as your LEO's." Can't dispute that - I was very young, and did some stupid things. I shudder to contemplate the implications of that behavior. Joe Like a lot of us on here, I resemble that remark. In hindsight, it is a minor miracle that I still have both eyes and all my fingers and toes (in semi-working condition), let alone never got locked up for anything. I lead a much quieter, more careful life now. I don't heal up near as fast as I used to. -- aem sends... |
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"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
m... In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: The fact remains that unless they have reason to believe you were involved in a crime, they have no grounds for asking where you're coming from or going to. The only time it may benefit you to answer the question is if you've had a couple of beers, the cop thinks you're OK, but he/she wants to know that you're headed home instead of another bar. Actually they have every grounds to ask the questions. They just have no grounds to do anything if you choose not to answer. You always ask the questions in case someone is dumb enough to say something they shouldn't. And that's why the video offers good advice: Silence. Or, "Did you get a chance to watch the meteor shower last night? Amazing!" |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. Yep. Cops the world over act (mostly) the same. In real life, they seldom see the perpetrator, but always see the victim. A residence burglary, a car that was stolen, an act of vandalism, a rape or armed robbery, and more are often life-changing events for the person harmed. You help when you can - often just by listening. You make the report. I visited the police station in Jerusalem. It looked EXACTLY like police stations the world over: faded linoleum tile, florescent lights (some not working), a drunk handcuffed to a bench in the waiting room, and a desk sergeant with about a hundred rubber stamps. In large measure, a cop is a boy scout with a gun. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. Yes it is. They are giving you a chance to get out of a ticket. Not only do exigent circumstances (wife in labor) provide a perfect defense, often a pretty good circumstance is enough. Sometimes he can help ("The alarm company said my business alarm is going off...") I once asked a driver why he was going so fast and he told me that, beyond all expectations, his bowling team was in the finals and he was rushing home to retrieve his check-book to pay for the next round. I sent him on his way with only the admonition to be careful. Hint: Never say you didn't see the stop sign or didn't realize you were going that fast. The drivers who are oblivious to their surroundings are exactly the ones that law enforcement wants to target. Better to say, "Yes, I saw the stop sign and I also saw that it was safe to proceed. Since I'm on an urgent mission...." As to your misunderstanding of the law, you do not have the right to remain completely silent. In most jurisdictions, it is a crime to fail to identify yourself. Should you insist on total silence, the officer may have no choice but to take you somewhere where you CAN be identified. Don't forget, a police officer is a microcosm of the criminal justice system: * He initiates the complaint, * He investigates the situation, * He weighs the facts and the evidence, * If his verdict is against you, he meets out the penalty (citation or arrest) One more hint: If you have a problem with a cop, the street is NOT the place to settle the disagreement. You will always lose - and sometimes die. Righteous indignation is a powerful force but it does not stand a chance against training, experience, firepower, and reinforcements. You can yell and shove your boss, wife, or co-worker but if you do that to a cop, he'll light you up like a Christmas tree. Then it gets bad. In Texas, hitting a police officer is a felony of the first degree (five to 99 years or life and up to $10,000 fine). No, the best thing you can do when stopped is to say: "Officer, am I glad to see you! I've been pulling on my penis for several hours now and I think I broke it. Can you take a look and tell me if it's all right?" |
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On Aug 20, 5:40*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , *"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. HeyBub's only mentioned that 100 times, Joe, where have you been? But it's not the least bit ironic that law enforcement personnel are widely despised by the general public. They started it. The city cops around here treat everyone like pond scum, while prancing around in their skin tight gestapo uniforms and knee-high leather boots. Then they wonder why the referendum to fund a new police station went down to defeat 87-13. Very interesting...................! |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message
m... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. As to your misunderstanding of the law, you do not have the right to remain completely silent. In most jurisdictions, it is a crime to fail to identify yourself. Should you insist on total silence, the officer may have no choice but to take you somewhere where you CAN be identified. The photo-equipped license I take out of my wallet is more than sufficient to identify me. |
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On Aug 20, 6:25*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote in message news In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. HeyBub's only mentioned that 100 times, Joe, where have you been? But it's not the least bit ironic that law enforcement personnel are widely despised by the general public. They started it. The city cops around here treat everyone like pond scum, while prancing around in their skin tight gestapo uniforms and knee-high leather boots. Then they wonder why the referendum to fund a new police station went down to defeat 87-13. I don't despise them as much as I pity some of them because they're idiots. In my neighborhood, they've completely bungled several burglary investigations, two of them because the cops didn't understand the law and had absolutel no common sense. And recently, I was pulled over after making a turn off an exit ramp onto a local road. The cop described the way he saw me do it and hinted that there was something wrong. I asked him to describe it again. What he described was a perfectly executed turn. I reached into my glove box, pulled out the NY driver's manual, turned to the page where it showed that I did the turn perfectly, and handed him the book. He mumbled something, went back to his car and pretended to do something important for a couple of minutes, and then let me go. The last time I got pulled over (in the UK) it was for driving too slowly. It was snowing heavily, I was passing close to parked cars, I was passing a pub where several drunks were jumping about and my turbo- charger was cold. Our cops are not very smart either. Which is why we call them plods. Beezebub's OT posts are usually interesting even if he is mad. It's interesting plumbing the depths of his madness :-) |
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On Aug 20, 9:08*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message m... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: I intended it for a group where several of us ex- and current law enforcement officers hang out. I assure you that I/we/they think it's entertaining, but of course cops have a wildly different sense of humor from that of normal folk. I used to introduce myself as "...I'm in solid waste disposal. I'm a deputy sheriff." You're an ex- or present cop? That explains a lot. Ex. My observation is that people are funny. My observation is that cops aren't smart enough to realize they're acting EXACTLY like cops did in the Soviet Union, under a regime which true Americans were supposed to abhor. For instance, no matter what you're pulled over for, cops often ask where you're coming from and/or where you're headed next. That's really none of their friggin' business, which is why the absolute best way to deal with a cop is absolute silence. Why not? The law protects our right to do that. In the UK they say"Are you the owner of this vehicle?" |
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On Aug 20, 11:22*pm, "DGDevin" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message m... My observation is that people are funny. If they're stressed a bit, the facade that allows them to function in society gets stripped away and they get even funnier. A couple of times in recent years when we've gone through Customs after a foreign trip (or whatever they call Customs these days) the Customs/Homeland Security guy has been notably unpleasant. *My wife has commented afterwards that the Customs agent was a jerk, and I tell her it is just as likely he was acting like a jerk to see what our reaction would be, like would we start sweating and stammering and fidgeting like we were nervous about something. *And since we were cool and polite and didn't flip out he knew we either had nothing to hide or were really slick international criminals. Either way we've never had even the rudest Customs agent so much as ask to look in our luggage, I guess we must fit that dumbass middle-class taxpayer profile--heh heh. Meeting cops in South America can be interesting. The locals all hate their cops. Tourist usually do OK........... http://freespace.virgin.net/susan.armitage/copscuz.JPG |
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