[Lyndell Thompson]

I have a twenty year old house I built with matching soffit, fascia and
guttering until about a year ago, when a tree limb knocked off and
destroyed a piece
of fascia trim. All efforts has proved fruitless including the original mfg.
Norandex. They still make the fascia just not in that color. I have located
coil stock in the correct color (gutter coil) and thickness .030 aluminum
but so far no one to roll it. There are a handful of people on the net that
say they roll fascia trim, but there machines a differnet pattern.
Norandex office told me they are a distibutor and can not roll it for me,
nor do they know anyone who can. (? ) And the local store says use a metal
brake. Yeah
right. I can come close on a 6" test piece but 10'..... come on. I have a
comercial brake at work, but this is roll formed not brake formed. If anyone
has an idea or lead let me know. Other than send you pics I don't have a way
of showing you all the piece, but here are the specs and a sketch.

____/\____/\____/\____/\____
]

The ribs are way exagerated. They are perhaps the height of the thickness of
a credit card. Measuring from the top of the fascia trim it is : 1/2" to
1st rib, 2-1/2" to 2nd rib, 4-1/2" to 3rd rib. 6-1/2" to 4th rib, 8" to 90
degree bend, 1" to next 90 degree bend 3/16" turned up lip. The above
drawing is laying down rather than vertical.

Of course this piece is the first one you see coming up the driveway and is
why I am trying to get a close match. Everyone says tear a piece off the
back of the house and put up front. It is not that simple due to decorative
beams that protrude from the fascia and you guessed it ......are covered in
the same color and have slight variations that keep me from moving the trim
this way. Unless Norandex custom built their owm fascia roller someone has
one of these somewhere. I have even seen this fascia at Home Depot and Lowes
a few years back, same pattern and all just in white or brown. Lesson
learned: trim a house in white or brown, you will always be able to get trim
for it. BTW the old Norandex color is Tan and the Klein aluminum color is
antique ivory.
Thanks for reading and all comments are welcome.
Lyndell

P.S. I only need about 20' feet of this but I will make it worth someones
while to set up and roll this for me if they have the roll former.
I know I can paint it as a last resort but I really would like it to match
and continue to match the rest of the house.

[aemeijers]

Lyndell Thompson wrote:
I have a twenty year old house I built with matching soffit, fascia and
guttering until about a year ago, when a tree limb knocked off and
(tale of woe snipped)

Not a flame to OP, but this is yet another reason I am not a fan of
wrapping wood trim in metal.

--
aem sends...

[David Nebenzahl]

On 9/7/2009 11:23 AM aemeijers spake thus:

Lyndell Thompson wrote:

I have a twenty year old house I built with matching soffit, fascia and
guttering until about a year ago, when a tree limb knocked off and

(tale of woe snipped)

Not a flame to OP, but this is yet another reason I am not a fan of
wrapping wood trim in metal.

Or worse yet, plastic (yuck!).


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

[Larry S]

"Lyndell Thompson" wrote in message
m...
I have a twenty year old house I built with matching soffit, fascia and
guttering until about a year ago, when a tree limb knocked off and
destroyed a piece
of fascia trim. All efforts has proved fruitless including the original
mfg.
Norandex. They still make the fascia just not in that color. I have
located
coil stock in the correct color (gutter coil) and thickness .030 aluminum
but so far no one to roll it. There are a handful of people on the net
that
say they roll fascia trim, but there machines a differnet pattern.
Norandex office told me they are a distibutor and can not roll it for me,
nor do they know anyone who can. (? ) And the local store says use a
metal brake. Yeah
right. I can come close on a 6" test piece but 10'..... come on. I have a
comercial brake at work, but this is roll formed not brake formed. If
anyone
has an idea or lead let me know. Other than send you pics I don't have a
way
of showing you all the piece, but here are the specs and a sketch.

____/\____/\____/\____/\____
]

The ribs are way exagerated. They are perhaps the height of the thickness
of
a credit card. Measuring from the top of the fascia trim it is : 1/2"
to
1st rib, 2-1/2" to 2nd rib, 4-1/2" to 3rd rib. 6-1/2" to 4th rib, 8" to
90
degree bend, 1" to next 90 degree bend 3/16" turned up lip. The above
drawing is laying down rather than vertical.

Of course this piece is the first one you see coming up the driveway and
is
why I am trying to get a close match. Everyone says tear a piece off the
back of the house and put up front. It is not that simple due to
decorative
beams that protrude from the fascia and you guessed it ......are covered
in
the same color and have slight variations that keep me from moving the
trim
this way. Unless Norandex custom built their owm fascia roller someone
has
one of these somewhere. I have even seen this fascia at Home Depot and
Lowes
a few years back, same pattern and all just in white or brown. Lesson
learned: trim a house in white or brown, you will always be able to get
trim
for it. BTW the old Norandex color is Tan and the Klein aluminum color is
antique ivory.
Thanks for reading and all comments are welcome.
Lyndell

P.S. I only need about 20' feet of this but I will make it worth someones
while to set up and roll this for me if they have the roll former.
I know I can paint it as a last resort but I really would like it to
match and continue to match the rest of the house.

I'd go about it another way. Since you say you can get the same type, but
not in the same color. Buy the same type and paint it, just about everyone
does color matching now days.

[ransley]

On Sep 7, 11:16*am, "Lyndell Thompson" wrote:
I have a twenty year old house I built with matching soffit, fascia and
guttering until about a year ago, when a tree *limb knocked *off and
destroyed a piece
of fascia trim. All efforts has proved fruitless including the original mfg.
Norandex. They still make the fascia just not in that color. I have located
coil stock in the correct color (gutter coil) and thickness .030 aluminum
but so far no one to roll it. There are a handful of people on the net that
say they roll fascia trim, but there machines a differnet pattern.
Norandex office told me they are a distibutor and can not roll it for me,
nor do they know anyone who can. (? ) And the local store says use a metal
brake. Yeah
right. I can come close on a 6" test piece but 10'..... come on. I have a
comercial brake at work, but this is roll formed not brake formed. If anyone
has an idea or lead let me know. Other than send you pics I don't have a way
of showing you all the piece, but here are the specs and a sketch.

____/\____/\____/\____/\____
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ]

The ribs are way exagerated. They are perhaps the height of the thickness of
a credit card. Measuring from the top of the fascia *trim it is : *1/2" to
1st rib, 2-1/2" to 2nd rib, 4-1/2" to 3rd rib. 6-1/2" to 4th rib, 8" to 90
degree bend, 1" to next 90 degree bend 3/16" turned up lip. The above
drawing is laying down rather than vertical.

Of course this piece is the first one you see coming up the driveway and is
why I am trying to get a close match. Everyone says tear a piece off the
back of the house and put up front. It is not that simple due to decorative
beams that protrude from the fascia and you guessed it ......are covered in
the same color and have slight variations that keep me from moving the trim
this way. Unless Norandex custom built their owm fascia roller someone has
one of these somewhere. I have even seen this fascia at Home Depot and Lowes
a few years back, same pattern and all just in white or brown. Lesson
learned: trim a house in white or brown, you will always be able to get trim
for it. BTW the old Norandex color is Tan and the Klein aluminum color is
antique ivory.
Thanks for reading and all comments are welcome.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Lyndell

P.S. I only need about 20' feet of this but I will make it worth someones
while to set up and roll this for me if they have the roll former.
I know I can paint it as a last resort but I really would like it to match
and continue to match the rest of the house.

Colors can be changed, paint it. If you found it once its still out
there. Why havnt you thought of paint on what you have seen for sale.

[Lyndell Thompson]

I know I can paint it as a last resort but I really would like it to match
and continue to match the rest of the house.

Colors can be changed, paint it. If you found it once its still out
there. Why havnt you thought of paint on what you have seen for sale.

Answer: I have seen some really sloppy jobs at painted aluminum trim. They
peel, crack , fade etc. My trim for the most part, looks as it did 20 years
ago when I installed it. I am hoping for another twenty and beyond with
whatever I do. I wash it about once a year or so. The auto makers know a lot
about paint but even their best would not look so good under these
conditions. I think it would be hard to get performance like this from any
type of paint, even powder coat. I may have to go this route. Like I said it
is my last choice. Oh and I forgot the real reason.........I just installed
decra shingles with 50 year warranty so I am not planning on selling anytime
soon. :-)
Lyndell

[ransley]

On Sep 7, 4:36*pm, "Lyndell Thompson" wrote:
I know I can paint it as a last resort but I really would like it to match
and continue to match the rest of the house.

Colors can be changed, paint it. If you found it once its still out
there. Why havnt you thought of paint on what you have seen for sale.

Answer: I have seen some really sloppy jobs at painted aluminum trim. They
peel, crack , fade etc. My trim for the most part, looks as it did 20 years
ago when I installed it. I am hoping for another twenty and beyond with
whatever I do. I wash it about once a year or so. The auto makers know a lot
about paint but even their best would not look so good under these
conditions. I think it would be hard to get performance like this from any
type of paint, even powder coat. I may have to go this route. Like I said it
is my last choice. Oh and I forgot the real reason.........I just installed
decra shingles with 50 year warranty so I am not planning on selling anytime
soon. :-)
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Lyndell

You are wrong about this, if its cleaned, prepped right-sanding.
Primed, painted with a top quality paint, in the proper conditions, it
will last and wont peel. Talk to a siding co tech, Sherwin and
Benjamin Moore company techs. The top paint is near 60$ a gallon and
performs well when done right. What you really see is painters cutting
corners using the cheapest stuff they can, so the customer gets
screwed. You might find Sherwin Williams is the factory siding paint.
Now you could do it before its hung and it will look factory done, you
could spray it for a great finish, but prep, product, and environment-
temp when painting is the key.

[DT]

In article ,
says...
I have a twenty year old house I built with matching soffit, fascia and
guttering until about a year ago, when a tree limb knocked off and
destroyed a piece
of fascia trim. All efforts has proved fruitless including the original mfg.
Norandex. They still make the fascia just not in that color. I have located
coil stock in the correct color (gutter coil) and thickness .030 aluminum
but so far no one to roll it. There are a handful of people on the net that
say they roll fascia trim, but there machines a differnet pattern.
Norandex office told me they are a distibutor and can not roll it for me,
nor do they know anyone who can. (? ) And the local store says use a metal
brake. Yeah right.


You might try and find someone with a Brake Buddy. This is a hand former used
with a brake to roll form sheet metal, here is a link:

http://www.tapcotools.com/pages/acce...rake_buddy.php

Now, I do have a Brake Buddy and it produces great facias, here is the one I
use, which is a much wider rib:

http://home.wowway.com/~dthompson4389/house-gable.jpg

If you look at the page on the Brake Buddy you will see they offer a V groove
roller set, which I do not have. Contact Tapco and ask them how deep the ribs
are formed and see if it is OK for your application. Then the trick is to
find someone near you who uses one.

If you were near me (northern Ohio) and wanted to purchase the roller set, I
would be happy to form your facia.

--
Dennis

[aemeijers]

ransley wrote:
On Sep 7, 4:36 pm, "Lyndell Thompson" wrote:
I know I can paint it as a last resort but I really would like it to match
and continue to match the rest of the house.
Colors can be changed, paint it. If you found it once its still out
there. Why havnt you thought of paint on what you have seen for sale.

Answer: I have seen some really sloppy jobs at painted aluminum trim. They
peel, crack , fade etc. My trim for the most part, looks as it did 20 years
ago when I installed it. I am hoping for another twenty and beyond with
whatever I do. I wash it about once a year or so. The auto makers know a lot
about paint but even their best would not look so good under these
conditions. I think it would be hard to get performance like this from any
type of paint, even powder coat. I may have to go this route. Like I said it
is my last choice. Oh and I forgot the real reason.........I just installed
decra shingles with 50 year warranty so I am not planning on selling anytime
soon. :-)
Lyndell

You are wrong about this, if its cleaned, prepped right-sanding.
Primed, painted with a top quality paint, in the proper conditions, it
will last and wont peel. Talk to a siding co tech, Sherwin and
Benjamin Moore company techs. The top paint is near 60$ a gallon and
performs well when done right. What you really see is painters cutting
corners using the cheapest stuff they can, so the customer gets
screwed. You might find Sherwin Williams is the factory siding paint.
Now you could do it before its hung and it will look factory done, you
could spray it for a great finish, but prep, product, and environment-
temp when painting is the key.

New trim, you could always have a auto body shop paint it and bake it.
I've seen steel doors done that way, and they look fantastic.

--
aem sends...