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Ideas for stabilizing a four poster bed?



 
 
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Old May 27th 09, 05:51 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Ideas for stabilizing a four poster bed?

On May 27, 12:25*pm, julvr wrote:
Metal tends not to wear over time, but wood does. *You'll have to
inspect the bed closely to see what your root cuase is. *From your
description, you have one of a few possible situations:

1) the metal hooks or the pins have become loose, creating play

Solution: replace the hardwa *if it is a screw that's loose, use a
longer/wider screw. *If the pins are loose, try using larger diameter
pins (redrilling is necessary). *If neither work, remove the hooks and
pins, go to your local big orange store, and buy some new hardware.

Solution 2: drill shank holes in the post, and guide holes in the
rail, and attach the rail using really long screws. *This is not
ideal, as you will have play again in 5 or 6 years.

2) the wood where the bed post meets the rail is worn

If this is the case, it's due to a not-so great design of the bed.
Completely replacing the hardware is a good idea again. *You can also
try to resquare the wood, and attach a piece of aluminum to replace
the thickness lost due to the cut (only if you have a tablesaw or RAS
saw -- I don't recomend this otherwise!).

Check out this for an idea for hardwa

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...&cat=3,40842,4...

John


re : If neither work, remove the hooks and pins, go to your local big
orange store, and buy some new hardware

Does your local big orange store carry bed hardware? I don't think
mine does.

I searched for bed hardware on their website and got a whole bunch of
door knobs and a few pick-up truck tool boxes.

I would also avoid surface mounted bed fasteners such as the ones at
the Lee Valley site.

I've built all of the beds in my house (2 sets of bunks, standard and
L-shaped, and a queen size bed) I've tried various types of surface
mount bed fasteners and have never been happy over the long term.
They're really easy to install, but they just don't hold as tight.

I eventually replaced all of the fasteners with these and haven't had
a problem since:

http://images.rockler.com/rockler/im...589-01-500.jpg

Yes, I had to rout out the recesses, but now that they're installed,
it takes a rubber mallet to assemble/dis-assemble the bed. Once I made
the jigs for the rails and end-boards, the routing took a matter of
minutes.
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Old May 27th 09, 06:37 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Ideas for stabilizing a four poster bed?

bobmct wrote:
Slightly O.T. but still within the realm of a home...

We have an old four poster bed that wiggles a lot. It appears that
where the side rails fit into the posts (metal hooks that hang over
steel pins in the post slot) it has become sloppy over time.

I thought I saw a long time ago that there are shims or metal springs
that can be wedged into the slots to help squeeze the hooks when
inserted.

If anyone is aware please advise as best you can. Also, if anyone has
any ideas, other than carpenter's glue, please share because I cannot
be the only one with this situation?

I will be eagerly awaiting all answers. Thanks


I have an old four-poster that has slats across from frame to frame to
hold the spring and mattress. Seems to me that if you have the same
set-up, cutting some new boards that fit tightly would solve the problem.
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Old May 27th 09, 06:49 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Ideas for stabilizing a four poster bed?

On May 27, 1:37*pm, "
wrote:
bobmct wrote:
Slightly O.T. but still within the realm of a home...


We have an old four poster bed that wiggles a lot. *It appears that
where the side rails fit into the posts (metal hooks that hang over
steel pins in the post slot) it has become sloppy over time.


I thought I saw a long time ago that there are shims or metal springs
that can be wedged into the slots to help squeeze the hooks when
inserted.


If anyone is aware please advise as best you can. *Also, if anyone has
any ideas, other than carpenter's glue, please share because I cannot
be the only one with this situation?


I will be eagerly awaiting all answers. *Thanks


I have an old four-poster that has slats across from frame to frame to
hold the spring and mattress. *Seems to me that if you have the same
set-up, cutting some new boards that fit tightly would solve the problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How would the bed slats under the mattress stop the bed from rocking
back and forth?

You could screw a sheet of plywood to the rails with a thousand screws
but if the connection between the rails and head/foot boards is loose,
the bed is going to wiggle.
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Old May 27th 09, 11:26 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Ideas for stabilizing a four poster bed?

"bobmct" wrote

We have an old four poster bed that wiggles a lot. It appears that
where the side rails fit into the posts (metal hooks that hang over
steel pins in the post slot) it has become sloppy over time.


Lots of answers (and some fun). My take is it is loose so there's wiggle
room 'side to side' where the hook goes into the post slot. I'm assuming
that there is no other problem from your post.

Grin, get a box of toothpicks and fill the excess on the inner side so it
doesnt show, until they are tight.

Yeah I know, the guys want you to replace the hardware and that's probably
more 'elegant' but if your bed is like my old queensized one with that
problem, I fixed it with 50cents worth of toothpicks.


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Old May 28th 09, 12:01 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 27, 1:37 pm, "
wrote:
bobmct wrote:
Slightly O.T. but still within the realm of a home...
We have an old four poster bed that wiggles a lot. It appears that
where the side rails fit into the posts (metal hooks that hang over
steel pins in the post slot) it has become sloppy over time.
I thought I saw a long time ago that there are shims or metal springs
that can be wedged into the slots to help squeeze the hooks when
inserted.
If anyone is aware please advise as best you can. Also, if anyone has
any ideas, other than carpenter's glue, please share because I cannot
be the only one with this situation?
I will be eagerly awaiting all answers. Thanks

I have an old four-poster that has slats across from frame to frame to
hold the spring and mattress. Seems to me that if you have the same
set-up, cutting some new boards that fit tightly would solve the problem.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How would the bed slats under the mattress stop the bed from rocking
back and forth?

You could screw a sheet of plywood to the rails with a thousand screws
but if the connection between the rails and head/foot boards is loose,
the bed is going to wiggle.

He's implying that this would put enough sideways stress on the hooks to
take up the slop.
We're all just guessing here, without pictures. OP described it clearly
enough, but the words may mean different things to him than they do to
us. Unless bed is an heirloom/valuable antique, this falls in the
blacksmithing category. Take the mattress and box spring off, stare at
it awhile, and see what isn't fitting tightly, and find some way to
fine-tune reality. Depending on if the wood side rails showed or not,
I'd be inclined to graft the headboard and footboard onto a modern
bedframe. If the side rails were part of the design, I'd find some way
to graft some big L brackets in there to make tight solid corners. If it
is like the hook-into-slot(with pin) bed frames I have dealt with,
adding a metal or wood shim to the contact points would likely fix it,
at least for awhile.

--
aem sends...
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Old May 28th 09, 12:12 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Ideas for stabilizing a four poster bed?

On May 27, 7:01*pm, aemeijers wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On May 27, 1:37 pm, "
wrote:
bobmct wrote:
Slightly O.T. but still within the realm of a home...
We have an old four poster bed that wiggles a lot. *It appears that
where the side rails fit into the posts (metal hooks that hang over
steel pins in the post slot) it has become sloppy over time.
I thought I saw a long time ago that there are shims or metal springs
that can be wedged into the slots to help squeeze the hooks when
inserted.
If anyone is aware please advise as best you can. *Also, if anyone has
any ideas, other than carpenter's glue, please share because I cannot
be the only one with this situation?
I will be eagerly awaiting all answers. *Thanks
I have an old four-poster that has slats across from frame to frame to
hold the spring and mattress. *Seems to me that if you have the same
set-up, cutting some new boards that fit tightly would solve the problem.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


How would the bed slats under the mattress stop the bed from rocking
back and forth?


You could screw a sheet of plywood to the rails with a thousand screws
but if the connection between the rails and head/foot boards is loose,
the bed is going to wiggle.


He's implying that this would put enough sideways stress on the hooks to
take up the slop.
We're all just guessing here, without pictures. OP described it clearly
enough, but the words may mean different things to him than they do to
us. Unless bed is an heirloom/valuable antique, this falls in the
blacksmithing category. Take the mattress and box spring off, stare at
it awhile, and see what isn't fitting tightly, and find some way to
fine-tune reality. Depending on if the wood side rails showed or not,
I'd be inclined to graft the headboard and footboard onto a modern
bedframe. If the side rails were part of the design, I'd find some way
to graft some big L brackets in there to make tight solid corners. If it
is like the hook-into-slot(with pin) bed frames I have dealt with,
adding a metal or wood shim to the contact points would likely fix it,
at least for awhile.


This is what the OP has:
http://www.paxtonhardware.com/Bed-Ra...partments/424/

Assuming the wood isn't split and the pins are still tight in their
holes, shimming the end of the rails is by far the easiest thing to
do.

I apologize for not being more specific in my earlier responses, but
it was a very interesting day at the Giro d'Italia.

R
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Old May 28th 09, 01:32 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Ideas for stabilizing a four poster bed?

On Wed 27 May 2009 03:26:12p, cshenk told us...

"bobmct" wrote

We have an old four poster bed that wiggles a lot. It appears that
where the side rails fit into the posts (metal hooks that hang over
steel pins in the post slot) it has become sloppy over time.


Lots of answers (and some fun). My take is it is loose so there's wiggle
room 'side to side' where the hook goes into the post slot. I'm assuming
that there is no other problem from your post.

Grin, get a box of toothpicks and fill the excess on the inner side so it
doesnt show, until they are tight.

Yeah I know, the guys want you to replace the hardware and that's

probably
more 'elegant' but if your bed is like my old queensized one with that
problem, I fixed it with 50cents worth of toothpicks.




Glad you didn't suggest toothpaste. That should be reserved for filling
nail holes in drywall. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chowder breathes reassurance. It steams consolation. ~Clementine
Paddleford



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Old May 28th 09, 11:42 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote
cshenk told us...
"bobmct" wrote


We have an old four poster bed that wiggles a lot. It appears that


Lots of answers (and some fun). My take is it is loose so there's wiggle
room 'side to side' where the hook goes into the post slot. I'm assuming
that there is no other problem from your post.

Grin, get a box of toothpicks and fill the excess on the inner side so it
doesnt show, until they are tight.


Glad you didn't suggest toothpaste. That should be reserved for filling
nail holes in drywall. :-)


Hehehe just had to have a little fun with all the guys here and in fact,
that solution *did* work for us on a side to side 'shimmy' that made noise
when hubby and I were doing 'adult stuff' and the noise was making the
'kidlit' want to investigate...

Really, it worked.


 




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