We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?


Thanks!

David

"David Combs" wrote in message
Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?



Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?

If you suspect it may freeze at night, when you park, turn the defroster on
and leave it that way. In the morning, just hit the remote starter and let
it warm up. Also, use the washer fluid with the de-icer in it, such as
the yellow Prestone stuff.

On Wed 14 Jan 2009 08:59:41p, Ed Pawlowski told us...


"David Combs" wrote in message
Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?



Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?

If you suspect it may freeze at night, when you park, turn the defroster
on and leave it that way. In the morning, just hit the remote starter
and let it warm up. Also, use the washer fluid with the de-icer in
it, such as the yellow Prestone stuff.



How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
************************************************** **********************
Date: Wednesday, 01(I)/14(XIV)/09(MMIX)
************************************************** **********************
Countdown till Martin Luther King, Jr. Day
4dys 2hrs 53mins
************************************************** **********************
I'm fond of children -- except for boys.
************************************************** **********************

On 14 Jan 2009 22:08:18 -0500, (David Combs) wrote:

We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?


Thanks!

David

I use an old CD. Works great.

David Combs wrote:
We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?


Thanks!

David


Very few windshields have much of a compound curve. Whatever direction
you are scraping, try from 90 degrees off. And find a scraper with the
sharpened bumps on the back to make grooves in the ice. Works a lot
better if you scarify the surface first. The thin credit-card type ones,
like hotels and rental car agencies hand out, always seemed pretty
useless for anything more than frozen fog, to me. Just let the car warm
up a couple minutes, with defrost set on 'kill', before you start scraping.

Damn I'm glad I park inside these days. Haven't had to scrape more than
a few times so far this winter, when weather was bad while I was inside
at work.

--
aem sends...

On Jan 14, 9:08*pm, (David Combs) wrote:
We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. *Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? *Any products that work on these
curved windows?

Thanks!

David

I bet never uou saw a real curved winshield, they dont make them any
more, my 54 buick was actualy curved, . Old cars had curves
everywhere. Any scraper works

On Jan 15, 8:07*am, ransley wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:08*pm, (David Combs) wrote:





We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. *Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? *Any products that work on these
curved windows?

Thanks!

David

*I bet never uou saw a real curved winshield, they dont make them any
more, my 54 buick was actualy curved, . Old cars had curves
everywhere. Any scraper works- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

An old CD or DVD case works well. Old credit cards are rare in the
states these days due to the banks cutting them up.

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--

I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. I wish I had it on
my last car but never got around to it. Had it put on my new one as part of
the deal and this is my second winter with it. Great invention, as is
heated seats.

Handy where you are too. Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes before
you get in.

On Jan 15, 9:51*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? *Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--

I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. *I wish I had it on
my last car but never got around to it. *Had it put on my new one as part of
the deal and this is my second winter with it. *Great invention, as is
heated seats.

Handy where you are too. *Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes before
you get in.

Remote Starters: "but for $150 you can get one installed"

Where are you getting a remote starter installed for $150? Don't
believe the price in the ads.

By the time you either add in the bypass module or the extra key that
has to be hidden under the dash and the other "extras" that are always
needed, I doubt you'll spend less than $225. The next time you see an
ad for $150, call them and get the complete details - bypass modules,
key fobs, horn relays, etc - and see if it's still $150.

I've bought enough of them over the years that people ask me how much
they can expect to spend. I tell them to call and get the total cost
and they always come back and tell me I'm right - $225 to $250 is just
about where everyone ends up.

BTW - It's well worth the money on days like today when the overnight
lows are below 5 degrees.

On Jan 15, 7:06*am, jim wrote:
On Jan 15, 8:07*am, ransley wrote:





On Jan 14, 9:08*pm, (David Combs) wrote:

We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. *Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? *Any products that work on these
curved windows?

Thanks!

David

*I bet never uou saw a real curved winshield, they dont make them any
more, my 54 buick was actualy curved, . Old cars had curves
everywhere. Any scraper works- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

An old CD or DVD case works well. Old credit cards are rare in the
states these days due to the banks cutting them up.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Old credit cards are rare in the states these days due to the
banks cutting them up."

Huh?

I can't recall a bank ever cutting up one of my cards. How would they
get a hold it in the first place?

On Jan 15, 9:51*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? *Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--

I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. *I wish I had it on
my last car but never got around to it. *Had it put on my new one as part of
the deal and this is my second winter with it. *Great invention, as is
heated seats.

Handy where you are too. *Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes before
you get in.

Do they have one that will depress the clutch while it attempts to
start my car?

Cindy Hamilton

Remote starts are becoming common. I have one on every one of my vehicles.

Steve

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.247...
On Wed 14 Jan 2009 08:59:41p, Ed Pawlowski told us...


"David Combs" wrote in message
Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?



Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?

If you suspect it may freeze at night, when you park, turn the defroster
on and leave it that way. In the morning, just hit the remote starter
and let it warm up. Also, use the washer fluid with the de-icer in
it, such as the yellow Prestone stuff.



How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
************************************************** **********************
Date: Wednesday, 01(I)/14(XIV)/09(MMIX)
************************************************** **********************
Countdown till Martin Luther King, Jr. Day
4dys 2hrs 53mins
************************************************** **********************
I'm fond of children -- except for boys.
************************************************** **********************

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

Do they have one that will depress the clutch while it attempts to
start my car?

Cindy Hamilton

************************************************** ****

They do make them for standard shift and the transmission has to be in
neutral. If the clutch also has to be depressed as a safety, I don't know
for sure. If you depress the clutch for other reasons, it will work.

Most have us have been taught to depress the clutch when starting a car. Our
truck at work, a Mitsubishi-Fuso, has the have the clutch out to start it.

On Jan 15, 10:41*am, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
On Jan 15, 9:51*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? *Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--

I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. *I wish I had it on
my last car but never got around to it. *Had it put on my new one as part of
the deal and this is my second winter with it. *Great invention, as is
heated seats.

Handy where you are too. *Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes before
you get in.

Do they have one that will depress the clutch while it attempts to
start my car?

Cindy Hamilton

DAGS

Remote Starts for Manual trannys sure seem to be available...

http://www.hotbuyselectronics.com/ultra_start_1256m.htm

On Jan 14, 10:08*pm, (David Combs) wrote:
We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

What are you driving, a 24" diameter glass bubble? My vehicle glass is
all curved yet I have had absolutely no trouble getting any run of the
mill ice scraper to take a full width cut.

"David Combs" wrote in message
...
We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,

That's the only thing I use credit cards for any more.

On Jan 15, 12:07*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

Do they have one that will depress the clutch while it attempts to
start my car?

Cindy Hamilton

************************************************** ****

They do make them *for standard shift and the transmission has to be in
neutral. *If the clutch also has to be depressed as a safety, I don't know
for sure. If you depress the clutch for other reasons, it will work.

Most have us have been taught to depress the clutch when starting a car. Our
truck at work, a Mitsubishi-Fuso, has the have the clutch out to start it..

My Toyota won't start unless the clutch is depressed. There's a
saftey interlock.
I wonder if the remote start devices bypass it somehow.

In any event, I park it in the garage at night, so I'm not strongly
motivated
for remote start. Plus, I don't really care whether I get into a warm
car or not.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
On Jan 15, 9:51 am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--

I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. I wish I had it on
my last car but never got around to it. Had it put on my new one as part
of
the deal and this is my second winter with it. Great invention, as is
heated seats.

Handy where you are too. Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes
before
you get in.

Do they have one that will depress the clutch while it attempts to
start my car?

Cindy Hamilton

Since depressing the clutch is activating a switch I'm sure it could be done
with a relay or whatnot, but have not seen it.

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
.. Plus, I don't really care whether I get into a warm
car or not.

*************************************

You are either:
young
live in a moderate climate
or both

In article ,
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jan 15, 9:51*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? *Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--

I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. *I wish I had it on
my last car but never got around to it. *Had it put on my new one as part of
the deal and this is my second winter with it. *Great invention, as is
heated seats.

Handy where you are too. *Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes before
you get in.

Remote Starters: "but for $150 you can get one installed"

Where are you getting a remote starter installed for $150? Don't
believe the price in the ads.

By the time you either add in the bypass module or the extra key that
has to be hidden under the dash and the other "extras" that are always
needed, I doubt you'll spend less than $225. The next time you see an
ad for $150, call them and get the complete details - bypass modules,
key fobs, horn relays, etc - and see if it's still $150.

I've bought enough of them over the years that people ask me how much
they can expect to spend. I tell them to call and get the total cost
and they always come back and tell me I'm right - $225 to $250 is just
about where everyone ends up.

BTW - It's well worth the money on days like today when the overnight
lows are below 5 degrees.

One problem I discovered just this morning.

Early, 5:30am, temp maybe 20 (tomorrow: 5!), I go to the gym.

By the time I get there (3 minutes, close) the heater (ALWAYS
set to blow on the windshield! -- no breath-fogging of it,
and warms it).

And, surprose (not forecast) it was snowing.

So I park, snow is falling, I go exercise for 1.5 hrs, come back
out -- and of course some of that snow has melted, rundown
the windshsield, and frozen again. -- the bottom 2 inches or so
gbeing pretty bad.


Now, had I NOT warmed the windshield, and parked, then no
warming/melting/then/freezing.

Can't win for losing!


Anyway, the remote starter sounds good. But maybe for a
2000 car, a bit expensive? (Unless you can transfer to a newer one later?)


Thanks for the suggestion. Food for thought.

(Were I in minnesota, though, I'd surely do it. But
Westchester (near new york city), ocean/sound 4, 5 miles
away, maybe, maybe not.)


Thanks!


David

In article ,
wrote:
On 14 Jan 2009 22:08:18 -0500, (David Combs) wrote:

We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?


Thanks!

David

I use an old CD. Works great.

Please, HOW do you use it? Scrape with the
edge (circumference)? Rub the thing flat?
Cut it in half and use the edge?

Sounds interesting -- once I get the mental picture.


THANKS!


David

In article ,
aemeijers wrote:
David Combs wrote:
We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?


Thanks!

David


Very few windshields have much of a compound curve. Whatever direction
you are scraping, try from 90 degrees off. And find a scraper with the
sharpened bumps on the back to make grooves in the ice. Works a lot
better if you scarify the surface first. The thin credit-card type ones,
like hotels and rental car agencies hand out, always seemed pretty
useless for anything more than frozen fog, to me. Just let the car warm
up a couple minutes, with defrost set on 'kill', before you start scraping.

Damn I'm glad I park inside these days. Haven't had to scrape more than
a few times so far this winter, when weather was bad while I was inside
at work.

--
aem sends...

Curve (topology?) Sure seems compound to me. I mean,
(1) it wraps around horizontally, AND (1) vertically.

Otherwise a normal hard-plastic scraper would work, when
scraped parallel to the ground.

No, I *know* it isn't just a plate-glass wrapped around
a vertical axis -- not this passenger car (Ford Focus stationwagonette).

Trucks -- probably flat, flat, flat. Not many passenger cars,
I bet.

But, I will go out and verify, though. :-)


David

In article ,
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jan 15, 7:06*am, jim wrote:
On Jan 15, 8:07*am, ransley wrote:





On Jan 14, 9:08*pm, (David Combs) wrote:

We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. *Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? *Any products that work on these
curved windows?

Thanks!

David

*I bet never uou saw a real curved winshield, they dont make them any
more, my 54 buick was actualy curved, . Old cars had curves
everywhere. Any scraper works- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

An old CD or DVD case works well. Old credit cards are rare in the
states these days due to the banks cutting them up.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Old credit cards are rare in the states these days due to the
banks cutting them up."

Huh?

I can't recall a bank ever cutting up one of my cards. How would they
get a hold it in the first place?

That's what I say, huh?


(for "credit-card", I'm using my Borders discount-card.)

Keep it in my pocket, ready access.


David

In article ,
wrote:
On Jan 14, 10:08*pm, (David Combs) wrote:
We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

What are you driving, a 24" diameter glass bubble? My vehicle glass is
all curved yet I have had absolutely no trouble getting any run of the
mill ice scraper to take a full width cut.

Strange.

Like I say, I'll go out and verify.


The other day, I told my wife about using a credit
card. Solved her problem too. (as opposed to the
thing you buy, with rubber scraper on one side,
hard, sharp pointed edge on the other side.)

But enough of you saying this, I will for sure
verify. (and probably kick myself for being
so stupid all these years!)


David

In article ,
Ulysses In California, the Totalitarianism State wrote:

"David Combs" wrote in message
...
We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,

That's the only thing I use credit cards for any more.



AH HA, VERIFICATION!

I guess those wooden-handled things they sell -- rubber blade
one one side, hard plastic scraper on the other, doesn't
work on your double-curved windshield either!


THANKS!


David

PS: maybe you and I just bought the "wrong" cars?

On Jan 15, 2:30*pm, (David Combs) wrote:
In article ,





DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jan 15, 9:51*am, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? *Or did I miss
something about the OP?

--

I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. *I wish I had it on
my last car but never got around to it. *Had it put on my new one as part of
the deal and this is my second winter with it. *Great invention, as is
heated seats.

Handy where you are too. *Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes before
you get in.

Remote Starters: *"but for $150 you can get one installed"

Where are you getting a remote starter installed for $150? Don't
believe the price in the ads.

By the time you either add in the bypass module or the extra key that
has to be hidden under the dash and the other "extras" that are always
needed, I doubt you'll spend less than $225. The next time you see an
ad for $150, call them and get the complete details - bypass modules,
key fobs, horn relays, etc - and see if it's still $150.

I've bought enough of them over the years that people ask me how much
they can expect to spend. I tell them to call and get the total cost
and they always come back and tell me I'm right - $225 to $250 is just
about where everyone ends up.

BTW - It's well worth the money on days like today when the overnight
lows are below 5 degrees.

One problem I discovered just this morning.

Early, 5:30am, temp maybe 20 (tomorrow: 5!), I go to the gym.

By the time I get there (3 minutes, close) the heater (ALWAYS
set to blow on the windshield! -- no breath-fogging of it,
and warms it).

And, surprose (not forecast) it was snowing.

So I park, snow is falling, I go exercise for 1.5 hrs, come back
out -- and of course some of that snow has melted, rundown
the windshsield, and frozen again. -- the bottom 2 inches or so
gbeing pretty bad.

Now, had I NOT warmed the windshield, and parked, then no
warming/melting/then/freezing.

Can't win for losing!

Anyway, the remote starter sounds good. *But maybe for a
2000 car, a bit expensive? * (Unless you can transfer to a newer one later?)

Thanks for the suggestion. *Food for thought.

(Were I in minnesota, though, I'd surely do it. *But
Westchester (near new york city), ocean/sound 4, 5 miles
away, maybe, maybe not.)

Thanks!

David- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Anyway, the remote starter sounds good. But maybe for a 2000 car,
a bit expensive? (Unless you can transfer to a newer one later?)

You can usually transfer them, but it may not be worth the trouble.
You can buy them outright for $125 - $150 depending on features. If
you are not doing the install yourself, it'll run you $225 on
average.

So if you assume $75 - $100 for someone to install a new one, you
gotta assume $150 to $200 for a transfer. However, the installer may
not offer as good a warranty on a transfer as with a new install for
various reasons.

Even at the low end of $150 for the transfer, I think I'd spend the
extra $75 and get a brand new unit, with the full warranty.

All that said, installing one in a 2000 car depends on the weather
where you live and how much you're willing to pay for the comfort
factor of always getting into a warm - or cool - car and not having
scrap as hard - or at all - on icy days.

My wife and I have had them installed in every vehicle we've owned
since the late 80's. Some new cars, some old cars. We just add the
$225 to cost of the vehicle just like we would if we upgrade/replace
the tires, etc.

On 14 Jan 2009 22:08:18 -0500, (David Combs) wrote:

We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?


Thanks!

David


Many years ago I bought two scrapers that are a plastic handle with a
strip of brass to do the actual scraping. The brass strip is about 3
inches wide and it is the perfect balance of stiffness and
flexibility. Stiff to be able to deal with the ice, flexible to
accommodate the windshield curve.

A search for brass ice scraper yielded quite a few varieties. This
looks like the ones I have:

http://www.usahardware.com/inet/shop...44_99_0214.htm

HTH,

Paul F.

On 14 Jan 2009 22:08:18 -0500, (David Combs) wrote:

We all know that with a curved windshield, about the only
thing that works for (not too thick) ice is a credit-card,
since it is flexible enough to fit to the window shape,
yet is hard enough to get the ice cover.

Does there exist a "professional" window scraper
that somehow works as well as the credit card?

The scrapers I see (and have bought) have a rubber
squeege-thing on once side, and a hard plastic
"ice scraper" (I guess) on the other.

Would be fine with a 30=year old VW-Beatle, with
its perfectly flat winshield. Or maybe with big
trucks or vans, if that's what they have.

But a passenger car -- heck, I get maybe one third
of an inch wide scraped area (if that).

Bloody useless!

Any ideas? Any products that work on these
curved windows?


Thanks!

David


I'd just stick with the credit cards. They're free, easy to get, and
when they are used in this manner, you wont go into debt or get
screwed over because of a lousy piece of plastic. In fact this might
be the ONLY good use for credit cards.......

Just my 2 cents !!!!
I think credit card companies are evil.

On Thu 15 Jan 2009 07:51:33a, Ed Pawlowski told us...


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? Or did I miss
something about the OP?

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I have no idea, but for $150 you can get one installed. I wish I had it
on my last car but never got around to it. Had it put on my new one as
part of the deal and this is my second winter with it. Great invention,
as is heated seats.

Handy where you are too. Nice to have the AC going for a few minutes
before you get in.

Yes, it would be nice. Prices have come down, too, as they used to be
hundreds more. The only drawback in high heat, is that cooling a car is
much slower if the vehicle isn't moving. Now if I could just have it drive
itself around the block a few times. g

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I suppose they are, and are certainly an advantage in cold climates.
Unfortunately, cooling a vehicle in high heat works best if the vehicle is in
motion.

On Thu 15 Jan 2009 09:17:48a, SteveB told us...

Remote starts are becoming common. I have one on every one of my vehicles.

Steve

How many people, do you suppose, have a remote starter? Or did I miss
something about the OP?
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On Thu 15 Jan 2009 11:58:09a, Cindy Hamilton told us...

On Jan 15, 12:07*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

Do they have one that will depress the clutch while it attempts to
start my car?

Cindy Hamilton

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They do make them *for standard shift and the transmission has to be in
neutral. *If the clutch also has to be depressed as a safety, I don't k
now
for sure. If you depress the clutch for other reasons, it will work.

Most have us have been taught to depress the clutch when starting a car.
Our
truck at work, a Mitsubishi-Fuso, has the have the clutch out to start
it
.

My Toyota won't start unless the clutch is depressed. There's a
saftey interlock.
I wonder if the remote start devices bypass it somehow.

In any event, I park it in the garage at night, so I'm not strongly
motivated
for remote start. Plus, I don't really care whether I get into a warm
car or not.

Cindy Hamilton


Then why are you involved in this thread, Cindy? vbg

I sort of feel the same way myself. While I'm in a climate as hot as
haydes instead of sub-zero weather, when I leave for work in the mornings
it's pleasantly cool. When at work my car is parked in a carport, so
doesn't absorb the heat from direct sun. It's not unpleasantly hot when I
get in, and it cools down very quickly.

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On Jan 15, 2:29*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

. Plus, I don't really care whether I get into a warm
car or not.

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You are either:
young
live in a moderate climate
or both

I'm 52 and I live in Michigan. It was a balmy 20 F in the
detached garage this morning, and a brisk -10 outdoors.

I almost had to put on a hat.

Cindy Hamilton

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wrote:
On Thu 15 Jan 2009 11:58:09a, Cindy Hamilton told us...







On Jan 15, 12:07*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

Do they have one that will depress the clutch while it attempts to
start my car?

Cindy Hamilton

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They do make them *for standard shift and the transmission has to be in
neutral. *If the clutch also has to be depressed as a safety, I don't k
now
for sure. If you depress the clutch for other reasons, it will work.

Most have us have been taught to depress the clutch when starting a car.

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

I wish I could park in a carport at work. Luckily, Ann Arbor is a
small town,
and I don't risk much (apart from the occasional sudden thunderstorm)
by leaving my windows down a bit in the summer.

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I have a garage at work. Heated to 50 degrees.