I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

On Dec 29, 2:30�pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

how deep is the main? did you look when they replaced the main line?

DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

You can probably do it. Sewer pipes are usually pretty deep, though. Whether
you're allowed to do it by the city is another matter entirely.

My son, with a neighbor's help, replaced his. It was a lot of digging and
the use of a pneumatic chisel for busting up the clay.

Me? I'd have rented a bobcat for a day.

On Dec 29, 1:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

Nobody knows local local dirt better and time needed than your water
dept, call them. Maybe the last foot is rocky clay.

On Dec 29, 3:31*pm, " wrote:
On Dec 29, 2:30 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

how deep is the main? did you look when they replaced the main line?

As I said in my OP - "I don't know how deep it is"

The best I can say guesstimate is this:

The exterior vent for the exhaust fan in my basement bathroom is in
the same corner of the house as the sewer pipe. Outside of the house,
the vent is about 3 feet off the ground. Inside the house, the floor
level cleanout is about 7 feet below the vent. I guess that puts the
sewer pipe at least 4 feet underground.

In addition, the frost line for building decks, etc. around here is
42", so I assume it's at least that deep.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
On Dec 29, 3:31 pm, " wrote:
On Dec 29, 2:30 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

how deep is the main? did you look when they replaced the main line?

As I said in my OP - "I don't know how deep it is"

The best I can say guesstimate is this:

The exterior vent for the exhaust fan in my basement bathroom is in
the same corner of the house as the sewer pipe. Outside of the house,
the vent is about 3 feet off the ground. Inside the house, the floor
level cleanout is about 7 feet below the vent. I guess that puts the
sewer pipe at least 4 feet underground.

In addition, the frost line for building decks, etc. around here is
42", so I assume it's at least that deep.

************************************************** *********

And it only goes down from there.

On Dec 29, 3:46*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

You can probably do it. Sewer pipes are usually pretty deep, though. Whether
you're allowed to do it by the city is another matter entirely.

My son, with a neighbor's help, replaced his. It was a lot of digging and
the use of a pneumatic chisel for busting up the clay.

Me? I'd have rented a bobcat for a day.

Can you dig down 4 or more feet with a bobcat?

Bob F wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
On Dec 29, 3:31 pm, " wrote:
On Dec 29, 2:30 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.
Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?
how deep is the main? did you look when they replaced the main line?

As I said in my OP - "I don't know how deep it is"

The best I can say guesstimate is this:

The exterior vent for the exhaust fan in my basement bathroom is in
the same corner of the house as the sewer pipe. Outside of the house,
the vent is about 3 feet off the ground. Inside the house, the floor
level cleanout is about 7 feet below the vent. I guess that puts the
sewer pipe at least 4 feet underground.

In addition, the frost line for building decks, etc. around here is
42", so I assume it's at least that deep.

************************************************** *********

And it only goes down from there.



After you find out the true depth and whether you
will be allowed to do the work:

Ask the state/local utility locating service to mark
the location of the other utilities for you.

If you have city water, the service line for that was
often laid in the very same trench with the sewer (though
perhaps at a different depth). That means you must be
*very* careful digging!

A trench, especially in sandy soil, will need shoring up
to prevent collapse. Plan on what you will do in the
event of rain as well.

Do the homework; this can be a very big job.

Jim

On Dec 29, 2:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

What makes you think yours needs replacing. With no trees and sandy
soil it may last forever.

If it aint broke.....

Jimmie

DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Dec 29, 3:46Â*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

You can probably do it. Sewer pipes are usually pretty deep, though.
Whether you're allowed to do it by the city is another matter entirely.

My son, with a neighbor's help, replaced his. It was a lot of digging and
the use of a pneumatic chisel for busting up the clay.

Me? I'd have rented a bobcat for a day.

Can you dig down 4 or more feet with a bobcat?
Sure just make sure you get the backhoe attachment or rent one of those
small track hoes....
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.co.nr/

If it's more than a foot deep, you'll want a backhoe. And it's more than a
foot deep.

s


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

Not in a day. LOL! Better get a real backhoe on the job.

s


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...


Can you dig down 4 or more feet with a bobcat?

in my state i needed a homeowner permit from the health dept and it
had to be inspected before it was filled in.the man there told me about
the drop on the pipe and where to put the cleanouts. we had new sewers
come thru here at the time. i rented a small kabota backhoe 16 inch wide
bucket with a bucket on the front also . i dug 160 feet long in one
morning used the bucket on front to lay in 4 inches of gravel , mine was
a sloping yard so i only had to use transit along side of the house
where flat to get slope right but found out a level would have worked
too. they told me 1/8" -1/4" drop per foot was needed. laid the sc 40
pipe in and the inspector came and blew smoke in the line to be sure of
leaks and that the roof vent was open. then said fill it in.so i did .
it helps to get your gravel and pipes on hand before digging . you can
use rubber sleeves with stainless hose clamps on it for connecting to
your house pipe if its cast iron or different size than your new pipe.
with sand soil,you may have to dig it wider than you normally would . no
i wasnt a pro ,but i watched a few go in before i decided to do it
myself. replaced my nat gas line once too,but thats another story..
lucas

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On Dec 29, 4:56*pm, JIMMIE wrote:
On Dec 29, 2:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

What makes you think yours needs replacing. With no trees and sandy
soil it may last forever.

If it aint broke.....

Jimmie

"If it aint broke....."

But it just might be.

The back story here is that the town used to come to my house at least
once a year to snake the sewer and clear the roots. They used to have
to come into the house because there was no cleanout in the yard.
Based on the amount of snake they used, the blockage was always in
"their" section of pipe. A few years ago, they replaced the pipe from
the right-of-way out and added a cleanout in my yard. We didn't have a
backup until a few months ago when my basement toilet starting
erupting whenever ane upstairs toilet was flushed.

The town came and snaked their section, but it was clear. $165 later,
a plumber pulled a big chunk of roots out of my section. Last week
(just once) I lifted the lid on the basement toilet and found water
all over the seat and lid, which means it must have erupted at least
once. That could mean more roots and a temporary blockage.

That's what making me start to look into replacing my section.

On Dec 29, 1:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

Every case is different, but here was mine. I hired a plumber to
replace a bad line. The line left the house at about 4' deep, went
across the yard, was about 6' deep at the curb, went to the middle of
the street, then straight down an additional 15' to the sewer line.
The sewer line had to be broken into, a saddle placed over it, topped
with 3 bags of sacrete, everything backfilled and packed, and the
street asphalt repaired. No way in hell was it a diy job.

Red

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 29, 3:31 pm, " wrote:
On Dec 29, 2:30 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.
Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?
how deep is the main? did you look when they replaced the main line?

As I said in my OP - "I don't know how deep it is"

The best I can say guesstimate is this:

The exterior vent for the exhaust fan in my basement bathroom is in
the same corner of the house as the sewer pipe. Outside of the house,
the vent is about 3 feet off the ground. Inside the house, the floor
level cleanout is about 7 feet below the vent. I guess that puts the
sewer pipe at least 4 feet underground.

In addition, the frost line for building decks, etc. around here is
42", so I assume it's at least that deep.
Hi,
Frost line depth at least. Couple shovels won't do! and having sandy
soil you may need lots of gravel to keep the line stay put.

On Dec 29, 8:12*pm, Red wrote:
On Dec 29, 1:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:



Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

Every case is different, but here was mine. *I hired a plumber to
replace a bad line. *The line left the house at about 4' deep, went
across the yard, was about 6' deep at the curb, went to the middle of
the street, then straight down an additional 15' to the sewer line.
The sewer line had to be broken into, a saddle placed over it, topped
with 3 bags of sacrete, everything backfilled and packed, and the
street asphalt repaired. *No way in hell was it a diy job.

Red

Thanks Red, but depth may be my only issue.

The town already took care of the alsphalt-removing-sewer-line-
breaking-saddle-connection-installation-backfilling-asphalt-patching
part of the job. I just need to replace my cast iron and tie into
their PVC.

On Dec 29, 7:21*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 29, 8:12*pm, Red wrote:





On Dec 29, 1:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

Every case is different, but here was mine. *I hired a plumber to
replace a bad line. *The line left the house at about 4' deep, went
across the yard, was about 6' deep at the curb, went to the middle of
the street, then straight down an additional 15' to the sewer line.
The sewer line had to be broken into, a saddle placed over it, topped
with 3 bags of sacrete, everything backfilled and packed, and the
street asphalt repaired. *No way in hell was it a diy job.

Red

Thanks Red, but depth may be my only issue.

The town already took care of the alsphalt-removing-sewer-line-
breaking-saddle-connection-installation-backfilling-asphalt-patching
part of the job. I just need to replace my cast iron and tie into
their PVC.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Copper sulfate monthly might be a lot easier way to clear the line.

On Dec 29, 8:09�pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 29, 4:56�pm, JIMMIE wrote:





On Dec 29, 2:30�pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

What makes you think yours needs replacing. With no trees and sandy
soil it may last forever.

If it aint broke.....

Jimmie

"If it aint broke....."

But it just might be.

The back story here is that the town used to come to my house at least
once a year to snake the sewer and clear the roots. They used to have
to come into the house because there was no cleanout in the yard.
Based on the amount of snake they used, the blockage was always in
"their" section of pipe. A few years ago, they replaced the pipe from
the right-of-way out and added a cleanout in my yard. We didn't have a
backup until a few months ago when my basement toilet starting
erupting whenever ane upstairs toilet was flushed.

The town came and snaked their section, but it was clear. $165 later,
a plumber pulled a big chunk of roots out of my section. Last week
(just once) I lifted the lid on the basement toilet and found water
all over the seat and lid, which means it must have erupted at least
once. That could mean more roots and a temporary blockage.

That's what making me start to look into replacing my section.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well theres a easy solution to your problem, its worked well for me
for over 10 years. someday I should replace the line, but its deep,
and under a wall driveway and sidewalk, plus the roots are in every
joint but one even under the house. the biggest job is moving alll my
business stuff out of the basement and garage to replace the indoor
lines. terracotta pipe.

I dump a 25 pound sack of rock salt in my basement wash tub, add lots
of hot water and stir with shovel till much of it dissolves. then go
to work so the sal;t water can lay in the line undisturbed....... for
12 hours. later normal use of water in the tub dissolves whats left,
and futher kills roots

kills the roots fast, tends to clear minor jams like you have fast. i
believe the roots curl up and die.

its worth a try, dirt cheap experiment, let us know how it works

DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

There might be an alternative not yet mentioned:

It is sometimes possible to insert a liner into an existing drain. The liner
is made of stuff impervious to tree roots and it won't ever crack. Here's an
example of a firm that does that sort of thing:

http://www.craftsmanpipelining.com/?...FRIMDQodeEG-Cg

On Dec 30, 8:10�am, "HeyBub" wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

There might be an alternative not yet mentioned:

It is sometimes possible to insert a liner into an existing drain. The liner
is made of stuff impervious to tree roots and it won't ever crack. Here's an
example of a firm that does that sort of thing:

http://www.craftsmanpipelining.com/?...FRIMDQodeEG-Cg

it tends to cost as much as a dig and replace fix, but does save
landscaping and the utter mess of a new line digging.

my neighbor is getting a new sewer line currently yard is piles of
dirt, excavator, a true mess very sad

On Dec 29, 10:25*pm, " wrote:
On Dec 29, 8:09 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:





On Dec 29, 4:56 pm, JIMMIE wrote:

On Dec 29, 2:30 pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and no
trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's about
a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in western NY
about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already replaced
their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the same with
mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help and a
lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

What makes you think yours needs replacing. With no trees and sandy
soil it may last forever.

If it aint broke.....

Jimmie

"If it aint broke....."

But it just might be.

The back story here is that the town used to come to my house at least
once a year to snake the sewer and clear the roots. They used to have
to come into the house because there was no cleanout in the yard.
Based on the amount of snake they used, the blockage was always in
"their" section of pipe. A few years ago, they replaced the pipe from
the right-of-way out and added a cleanout in my yard. We didn't have a
backup until a few months ago when my basement toilet starting
erupting whenever ane upstairs toilet was flushed.

The town came and snaked their section, but it was clear. $165 later,
a plumber pulled a big chunk of roots out of my section. Last week
(just once) I lifted the lid on the basement toilet and found water
all over the seat and lid, which means it must have erupted at least
once. That could mean more roots and a temporary blockage.

That's what making me start to look into replacing my section.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well theres a easy solution to your problem, its worked well for me
for over 10 years. someday I should replace the line, but its deep,
and under a wall driveway and sidewalk, plus the roots are in every
joint but one even under the house. the biggest job is moving alll my
business stuff out of the basement and garage to replace the indoor
lines. terracotta pipe.

I dump a 25 pound sack of rock salt in my basement wash tub, add lots
of hot water and stir with shovel till much of it dissolves. then go
to work so the sal;t water can lay in the line undisturbed....... for
12 hours. later normal use of water in the tub dissolves whats left,
and futher kills roots

kills the roots fast, tends to clear minor jams like you have fast. i
believe the roots curl up and die.

its worth a try, dirt cheap experiment, let us know how it works- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Question regarding rock salt and/or copper sulfate:

Since roots are getting into the line from some type of vegetation (my
neighbor has a small dogwood tree about 30 feet from where my line
runs, I have bushes across the front of the house) is the "death to
the roots" limited to those inside the pipe or do the roots suck up
the poison and carry back to the plant?

I want my drains to work, but I don't want to slowly kill any bushes
or trees.

He's got a flush toilet in the cellar... flush the rock salt.

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wrote in message
...

well theres a easy solution to your problem, its worked well for me
for over 10 years. someday I should replace the line, but its deep,
and under a wall driveway and sidewalk, plus the roots are in every
joint but one even under the house. the biggest job is moving alll my
business stuff out of the basement and garage to replace the indoor
lines. terracotta pipe.

I dump a 25 pound sack of rock salt in my basement wash tub, add lots
of hot water and stir with shovel till much of it dissolves. then go
to work so the sal;t water can lay in the line undisturbed....... for
12 hours. later normal use of water in the tub dissolves whats left,
and futher kills roots

kills the roots fast, tends to clear minor jams like you have fast. i
believe the roots curl up and die.

its worth a try, dirt cheap experiment, let us know how it works

wrote:
On Dec 30, 8:10?am, "HeyBub" wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer
pipe from my house to the right of way. We have very sandy soil and
no trees in the front yard to be concerned with. I'm thinking it's
about a 30' foot run, but I don't know how deep it is. I'm in
western NY about a mile south of Lake Ontario. The town has already
replaced their section of the sewer with PVC and I'd like to do the
same with mine.

Is this something I could do with a couple of shovels, some help
and a lot of time or is heavy equipment absolutely required?

There might be an alternative not yet mentioned:

It is sometimes possible to insert a liner into an existing drain.
The liner is made of stuff impervious to tree roots and it won't
ever crack. Here's an example of a firm that does that sort of thing:

http://www.craftsmanpipelining.com/?...FRIMDQodeEG-Cg

it tends to cost as much as a dig and replace fix, but does save
landscaping and the utter mess of a new line digging.

my neighbor is getting a new sewer line currently yard is piles of
dirt, excavator, a true mess very sad

About a year ago the city replaced the main sewer line serving my street.
The old sewer line was 8" concrete - the new is 10" plastic (of some kind).
What's fascinating was the way they did it.

Starting at one end, they POUNDED the new pipe THROUGH the old pipe,
fracturing the old pipe as they went! All day long THUD..... THUD.... THUD.

Eventually the plastic probe reached the end of the block.

Then they came along with an itty-bitty back hoe, dug up all the connections
in people's yards and connected the individual houses to the new plastic
pipe. They filled in the holes, placed sod over the mess, repaired the
fence, and moved on.

Ain't technology grand?

DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way...

How do you know the pipe needs replacement? Unscrupulous drain cleaning
services have been known to lie to customers in order to drum up
business. Get a second opinion.

On Dec 30, 1:33*pm, Bob wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way...

How do you know the pipe needs replacement? *Unscrupulous drain cleaning
services have been known to lie to customers in order to drum up
business. *Get a second opinion.

Have you read the rest of this thread?

The first (and only) opinion I've gotten is my own.

On Dec 30, 11:29*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Dec 30, 1:33*pm, Bob wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe
from my house to the right of way...

How do you know the pipe needs replacement? *Unscrupulous drain cleaning
services have been known to lie to customers in order to drum up
business. *Get a second opinion.

Have you read the rest of this thread?

The first (and only) opinion I've gotten is my own.

1. A well equipped plumber/inspector uses a SeeSnake or similar
camera system which goes down the sewer on a pushrod. Most of these
units can record to VHS or to some digital media. Ask to see the
inspection by camera or a recording of it.

2. The marking of the line of the sewer pipe can be done at the same
time if he is usig the kind of camera that includes a small 512 Hz
transmitter built-in. This is standard in all the SeeSnake and most
other models of piep inspection systems. The location of the camera
at any given point in time is located using a locator receiver such as
RIDGE's Scout or SR-20, or some othe rbrand that can detect the 512 Hz
frequency. Each point is marked with chalk or spray paint. You get a
neat dotted line along your yard showing you where the pipe is, if the
operator knows his business.

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:30:10 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

The problem with replacing your own sewer pipe is that you might make
a mistake. First replace your neighbor's sewer pipe, and if all goes
well, do yours.

I'm wondering what it would take to replace the section of sewer pipe

On Dec 29, 3:34*pm, Speedy Jim wrote:

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* *A trench, especially in sandy soil, will need shoring up
* *to prevent collapse. *Plan on what you will do in the
* *event of rain as well.

* *Do the homework; this can be a very big job.

Jim

This is the most important caveat in this whole thread. You know your
trench will be at least 4' deep and sloping downward. To proceed
without shoring is foolhardy. Even here in central Illinois, by law, a
trench in our stiff clay soil must be shored up.. A few weeks ago, one
of our local contractors with a reputation for low bids and cutting
corners got nailed $100K IIRC, for not shoring up a sewer trench and
piling the material too close to the dig (to save $$). Since you will
spend quite a bit to rent or buy shoring materials, your most sensible
option is a competent contractor. Good luck.

Joe

Question regarding rock salt and/or copper sulfate:

Since roots are getting into the line from some type of vegetation (my
neighbor has a small dogwood tree about 30 feet from where my line
runs, I have bushes across the front of the house) is the "death to
the roots" limited to those inside the pipe or do the roots suck up
the poison and carry back to the plant?

I want my drains to work, but I don't want to slowly kill any bushes
or trees.- Hide quoted text -

the salt and I have been doing this for 10 years, hurts nothing but
the roots in the line.it works fast here, if i see things getting
slugish, i dump in the salt and leave for the day. by next morning
problem gone.

My line sits directly below a large maple tree and some other trees
and bushes.

copper sulphate can kill the trees, a friends neighbor used copper
sulphate and killed 2 beautiful sycamore trees over a 100 years old.