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Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?



 
 
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Old July 20th 08, 05:07 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

We would like to fence in our back yard with 6' x 8' wood fence panels (I
would guess using 4" x4" posts). Wood choices would be probably white
pine, white cedar, red cedar, or redwood for the panels. The total
perimeter is approximately 200 lineal feet. We would probably need/want
two gates. We will probably use either Home Depot or Lowe's for both
product and contracted installation. We live in Mesa, Arizona, so would
only be concerned with heat issues since we get very little rain and
(obviously) no snow or ice. Overall cost is some consideration.

I would welcome opinions on choice of material as well as any
recommendation of Home Depot vs. Lowe's. I understand that both companies
engage or arrange for independent contractors for installation.

We're not quite ready to get estimates, so thought I would ask here first.

TIA

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Wayne Boatwright
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Mom is cleaning the floor.
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Old July 22nd 08, 01:31 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
We would like to fence in our back yard with 6' x 8' wood fence
panels (I would guess using 4" x4" posts). Wood choices would be
probably white pine, white cedar, red cedar, or redwood for the
panels. The total perimeter is approximately 200 lineal feet. We
would probably need/want two gates. We will probably use either Home
Depot or Lowe's for both product and contracted installation. We
live in Mesa, Arizona, so would only be concerned with heat issues
since we get very little rain and (obviously) no snow or ice.
Overall cost is some consideration.

I would welcome opinions on choice of material as well as any
recommendation of Home Depot vs. Lowe's. I understand that both
companies engage or arrange for independent contractors for
installation.

We're not quite ready to get estimates, so thought I would ask here
first.


Home Depot or Lowes are EXCELLENT places for fence building help.

Just hire the people milling around the parking lot.

Every one of them has probably been involved in dozens of fence-building
projects in the past month.


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Old July 22nd 08, 02:21 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

On Tue 22 Jul 2008 04:31:22a, HeyBub told us...

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
We would like to fence in our back yard with 6' x 8' wood fence
panels (I would guess using 4" x4" posts). Wood choices would be
probably white pine, white cedar, red cedar, or redwood for the
panels. The total perimeter is approximately 200 lineal feet. We
would probably need/want two gates. We will probably use either Home
Depot or Lowe's for both product and contracted installation. We
live in Mesa, Arizona, so would only be concerned with heat issues
since we get very little rain and (obviously) no snow or ice.
Overall cost is some consideration.

I would welcome opinions on choice of material as well as any
recommendation of Home Depot vs. Lowe's. I understand that both
companies engage or arrange for independent contractors for
installation.

We're not quite ready to get estimates, so thought I would ask here
first.


Home Depot or Lowes are EXCELLENT places for fence building help.

Just hire the people milling around the parking lot.

Every one of them has probably been involved in dozens of fence-building
projects in the past month.




Worth looking into. Thanks!

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
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lunchtime.
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Old July 22nd 08, 06:25 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

I agree that getting estimates from local contractors would be a good idea.
I have heard some good and some bad reports from people who used HD or
Lowes. Most of the bad news had to do with having HD or Lowes be the middle
person between you and whoever they get to show up at your house to do the
work.

The fence job sounds like a 1-day job. For that type of job, I never pay
any money up front. I work it out so I will be there on the day they do the
job and, as soon as the job is done, I pay them in full in person for the
job. When you give someone a deposit, he/she has no real incentive to get
to your job. Instead, you are on the hook waiting while they are out doing
the jobs where they will get a check for the work at the end of the day.
Once they have a deposit from you, they essentially already have their
profit in their hands.

You can get some very good contract forms from the American Institute of
Architects. Their contract forms include important items that are designed
to protect your interests. Here are a couple of links to their website
regarding contract documents:

http://www.aia.org/docs_purchase&defPr=1



http://www.aia.org/SiteObjects/files...stributors.pdf



I think their contract number A105-2007 is probably what you would want.
They have an AIA office in Phoenix where you can buy the contract forms in
person.

When you do the gate(s), be sure to include a gate or other system where, if
needed, someone with a backhoe, truck, or other heavy equipment can get into
the fenced in area. You never know when you will need to have a tree cut
down or other work done that requires access to the fenced in area. A wide
gate would be good, but even a system where a section of the fence can
easily be removed and replaced will work.

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.247...
We would like to fence in our back yard with 6' x 8' wood fence panels (I
would guess using 4" x4" posts). Wood choices would be probably white
pine, white cedar, red cedar, or redwood for the panels. The total
perimeter is approximately 200 lineal feet. We would probably need/want
two gates. We will probably use either Home Depot or Lowe's for both
product and contracted installation. We live in Mesa, Arizona, so would
only be concerned with heat issues since we get very little rain and
(obviously) no snow or ice. Overall cost is some consideration.

I would welcome opinions on choice of material as well as any
recommendation of Home Depot vs. Lowe's. I understand that both companies
engage or arrange for independent contractors for installation.

We're not quite ready to get estimates, so thought I would ask here first.

TIA

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Saturday, 07(VII)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
Cats must ride on the string mop while
Mom is cleaning the floor.
-------------------------------------------





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Old July 22nd 08, 06:52 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.247...
We would like to fence in our back yard with 6' x 8' wood fence panels (I
would guess using 4" x4" posts). Wood choices would be probably white
pine, white cedar, red cedar, or redwood for the panels. The total
perimeter is approximately 200 lineal feet. We would probably need/want
two gates. We will probably use either Home Depot or Lowe's for both
product and contracted installation. We live in Mesa, Arizona, so would
only be concerned with heat issues since we get very little rain and
(obviously) no snow or ice. Overall cost is some consideration.

I would welcome opinions on choice of material as well as any
recommendation of Home Depot vs. Lowe's. I understand that both companies
engage or arrange for independent contractors for installation.

We're not quite ready to get estimates, so thought I would ask here first.

TIA


HD is batting one out of three with my installs.

Good: water heater--- no problems, done fast, done right.

Bad: whole-house recarpeting and partial re-reroofing. Had serious problems
with both of the contractors they subbed the jobs out to. And in both cases,
HD would not take any responsibility or even get involved to the extent of
talking to the sub. They said-- it's between you and them and walked away.

I said no, the credit card payment was to you and I disputed both charges to
the card issuer and wouldn't pay. HD eventually saw my side of it with the
roofing sub and that was resolved.

However, the carpet problem ended up in small claims court where HD sent TWO
fancy-suited lawyers. I went alone and explained my side of it-- well
documented with pictures and a "daily log" on the job's progress (or lack
thereof). The judge socked it to them, reducing my cost to what I felt was
fair-- then hit them punitive damages in the same amount of the payment
due....so I eventually got a free house full of carpet. But 5-6 years later,
the faulty installation showed itself and I have lots of ridges and pulls.

HD wouldn't send a crew back to fix the problems so last week I wrote a
letter reminding them that the same judge still is still sitting on small
claims court.

I haven't heard back from them yet---but I'll keep you posted!!


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Old July 23rd 08, 02:42 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

On Tue 22 Jul 2008 04:31:22a, HeyBub told us...

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
We would like to fence in our back yard with 6' x 8' wood fence
panels (I would guess using 4" x4" posts). Wood choices would be
probably white pine, white cedar, red cedar, or redwood for the
panels. The total perimeter is approximately 200 lineal feet. We
would probably need/want two gates. We will probably use either Home
Depot or Lowe's for both product and contracted installation. We
live in Mesa, Arizona, so would only be concerned with heat issues
since we get very little rain and (obviously) no snow or ice.
Overall cost is some consideration.

I would welcome opinions on choice of material as well as any
recommendation of Home Depot vs. Lowe's. I understand that both
companies engage or arrange for independent contractors for
installation.

We're not quite ready to get estimates, so thought I would ask here
first.


Home Depot or Lowes are EXCELLENT places for fence building help.

Just hire the people milling around the parking lot.

Every one of them has probably been involved in dozens of fence-building
projects in the past month.




A point worth considering.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
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I'm a Parrothead and I'm OK....
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Old July 23rd 08, 02:44 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

On Tue 22 Jul 2008 09:25:40a, alta47 told us...

I agree that getting estimates from local contractors would be a good
idea. I have heard some good and some bad reports from people who used
HD or Lowes. Most of the bad news had to do with having HD or Lowes be
the middle person between you and whoever they get to show up at your
house to do the work.

The fence job sounds like a 1-day job. For that type of job, I never
pay any money up front. I work it out so I will be there on the day
they do the job and, as soon as the job is done, I pay them in full in
person for the job. When you give someone a deposit, he/she has no real
incentive to get to your job. Instead, you are on the hook waiting
while they are out doing the jobs where they will get a check for the
work at the end of the day. Once they have a deposit from you, they
essentially already have their profit in their hands.

You can get some very good contract forms from the American Institute of
Architects. Their contract forms include important items that are
designed to protect your interests. Here are a couple of links to their
website regarding contract documents:

http://www.aia.org/docs_purchase&defPr=1



http://www.aia.org/SiteObjects/files...stributors.pdf



I think their contract number A105-2007 is probably what you would want.
They have an AIA office in Phoenix where you can buy the contract forms
in person.

When you do the gate(s), be sure to include a gate or other system
where, if needed, someone with a backhoe, truck, or other heavy
equipment can get into the fenced in area. You never know when you will
need to have a tree cut down or other work done that requires access to
the fenced in area. A wide gate would be good, but even a system where
a section of the fence can easily be removed and replaced will work.


This is all excellent information, and much appreciated!

As far as gates are concerned, we had planned on three 4' wide gates, one
at each side of the house and one in the middle of the back span.


--
Wayne Boatwright
-------------------------------------------
Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
-------------------------------------------
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I'm a Parrothead and I'm OK....
-------------------------------------------




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Old July 23rd 08, 03:44 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Experience with Home Depot or Lowe's Wood Fence Purchase/Installation?

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.247...

As far as gates are concerned, we had planned on three 4' wide gates, one
at each side of the house and one in the middle of the back span.


I think you should seriously consider making one of the side gates much
wider -- maybe by combining two 4-foot wide gates to enable at least an
8-foot opening if needed. You never know when you will need to drive a
pickup truck into the back yard to load or unload dirt, mulch, bricks/stones
for a new patio, etc. Many lawn service companies use mowers that are more
than 4 feet wide.


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Old July 23rd 08, 04:28 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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On Tue 22 Jul 2008 06:44:58p, BETA-35 told us...

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.247...

As far as gates are concerned, we had planned on three 4' wide gates,
one at each side of the house and one in the middle of the back span.


I think you should seriously consider making one of the side gates much
wider -- maybe by combining two 4-foot wide gates to enable at least an
8-foot opening if needed. You never know when you will need to drive a
pickup truck into the back yard to load or unload dirt, mulch,
bricks/stones for a new patio, etc. Many lawn service companies use
mowers that are more than 4 feet wide.


I agree with your suggestion, but it wouldn't be too practical. Those
fence portions will run from the front corner of the house on each side to
the edge of the propertly line. Total distance on each side is barely 9
feet. We have a desert yard, so no grass, just compacted granite, so no
mower. This is typical in our area, as are 4-foot gates. Most bobcats can
easily clear the opening, and can move in most materials we might need.

Our future plans include a deck or Arizona Room, but the building materials
involved should pass through a 4 ft. gate with no problem. They do it all
the time out here.

Those folks have 8 ft. gates usually have them because they park an RV in
the back yard.

Thanks for your thoughtful suggestion, however.



--
Wayne Boatwright
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Tuesday, 07(VII)/22(XXII)/08(MMVIII)
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The vultures are circling . . . and
they have the faces of presidential
candidates and carry bowling balls in
their buttered claws. . . .
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