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Old September 14th 07, 04:26 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Adding window to exterior door???

Hi all,

We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been cut and
a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so we know
it's doable.

Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door? We'd love
it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a requirement.

Thanks ahead!

Don


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Old September 14th 07, 05:14 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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"DonC" wrote in message
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Hi all,

We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been cut
and a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so we
know it's doable.

Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door? We'd
love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a
requirement.

Counting the labor (unless you have the tools and skill set yourself),
probably cheaper to buy a new door with the light (window) already in it.
How old is your house? Can you determine the brand of the door, like from
the hinges or data plate or threshold? If you call around, and maybe go to
a real door supply house (vs. the Borg), you may get lucky and find one
where all you have to do is swap the door panel and reuse the old frame. To
buy the window seperately, you will probably have to order a replacement
window through a door specialist, or maybe a glass company. Make sure it is
tempered glass- a door slammed by wind or kids or whoever, generates a lot
of G forces.

Now if you do want to do it yourself- don't try to do it on the hinges. Take
it down, and cover the opening with wood or plastic. Put the door on
sawhorses, and do your marking, measuring, and cutting there. If you have
never done this before, recommend practicing with sheets of cardboard till
you have an exact template of what the hole needs to look like. (No idea if
the windows come with a layout sheet.) Measure 3 times before you drill and
cut, and take care not to warp the door or leave ripply edges by cutting too
fast and scorching the metal- it is suprisingly thin. When you put it
together, make sure to use the provided gaskets and/or the right flavor of
caulking. Local window company may be willing to do the install on a
carried-in door, if you order the window through them.

aem sends....


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Old September 14th 07, 06:27 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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"aemeijers" wrote in message
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"DonC" wrote in message
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Hi all,

We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been cut
and a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so we
know it's doable.

Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door? We'd
love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a
requirement.

Counting the labor (unless you have the tools and skill set yourself),
probably cheaper to buy a new door with the light (window) already in it.
How old is your house? Can you determine the brand of the door, like from
the hinges or data plate or threshold? If you call around, and maybe go
to a real door supply house (vs. the Borg), you may get lucky and find one
where all you have to do is swap the door panel and reuse the old frame.
To buy the window seperately, you will probably have to order a
replacement window through a door specialist, or maybe a glass company.
Make sure it is tempered glass- a door slammed by wind or kids or whoever,
generates a lot of G forces.

Now if you do want to do it yourself- don't try to do it on the hinges.
Take it down, and cover the opening with wood or plastic. Put the door on
sawhorses, and do your marking, measuring, and cutting there. If you have
never done this before, recommend practicing with sheets of cardboard till
you have an exact template of what the hole needs to look like. (No idea
if the windows come with a layout sheet.) Measure 3 times before you drill
and cut, and take care not to warp the door or leave ripply edges by
cutting too fast and scorching the metal- it is suprisingly thin. When you
put it together, make sure to use the provided gaskets and/or the right
flavor of caulking. Local window company may be willing to do the install
on a carried-in door, if you order the window through them.


Not sure where to get them, but we had exactly that done to our house in
Toronto 15 years ago. Guy who installed it showed up with a zipgun, cut out
the hole without removing the door, put in the insert and was gone in 15
minutes. It is a measure twice, cut one situation, but not as hard as some
have made it out to be.

-jim
seattlecurlerATcomcast.net

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Old September 14th 07, 06:41 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Adding window to exterior door???


"Jim Sullivan" wrote in message
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"aemeijers" wrote in message
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"DonC" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been cut
and a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so we
know it's doable.

Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door? We'd
love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a
requirement.

Counting the labor (unless you have the tools and skill set yourself),
probably cheaper to buy a new door with the light (window) already in it.
How old is your house? Can you determine the brand of the door, like from
the hinges or data plate or threshold? If you call around, and maybe go
to a real door supply house (vs. the Borg), you may get lucky and find
one where all you have to do is swap the door panel and reuse the old
frame. To buy the window seperately, you will probably have to order a
replacement window through a door specialist, or maybe a glass company.
Make sure it is tempered glass- a door slammed by wind or kids or
whoever, generates a lot of G forces.

Now if you do want to do it yourself- don't try to do it on the hinges.
Take it down, and cover the opening with wood or plastic. Put the door on
sawhorses, and do your marking, measuring, and cutting there. If you have
never done this before, recommend practicing with sheets of cardboard
till you have an exact template of what the hole needs to look like. (No
idea if the windows come with a layout sheet.) Measure 3 times before you
drill and cut, and take care not to warp the door or leave ripply edges
by cutting too fast and scorching the metal- it is suprisingly thin. When
you put it together, make sure to use the provided gaskets and/or the
right flavor of caulking. Local window company may be willing to do the
install on a carried-in door, if you order the window through them.


Not sure where to get them, but we had exactly that done to our house in
Toronto 15 years ago. Guy who installed it showed up with a zipgun, cut
out the hole without removing the door, put in the insert and was gone in
15 minutes. It is a measure twice, cut one situation, but not as hard as
some have made it out to be.

-jim
seattlecurlerATcomcast.net


Jim,

That's exactly my take on the project. It's not that big a deal. I have the
skills, tools and experiences over more decades than I'd like to admit : ).
("zipgun" = "Sawzall", right? : ) I just need some leads regarding where to
find a window kit.

And yes I could replace the entire door but the original installation is a
custom job -- not a simple prehung door.

Don



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Old September 14th 07, 12:50 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Adding window to exterior door???

You need to know your door thickness. The kits that screw
together work the best IMHO. Call around for a local supplier for
door lites. Here is one on the internet that offers the internal
blinds:
http://www.discountdoor.com/doorlites.htm



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"DonC" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door.
It seems simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear
to have been cut and a window has been added. Our previous door
had such a window so we know it's doable.

Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door?
We'd love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's
not a requirement.

Thanks ahead!

Don



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Old September 14th 07, 06:54 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Adding window to exterior door???

Just the type of info I'm looking for. The ODL line seems to fit our needs.
The closest supplier is 82 miles north in Apache Junction AZ. But beggars
can't be choosers : ) I've requested a catalog from ODL and will call the AZ
supplier.

Thanks Dan,

Don

"DanG" wrote in message
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You need to know your door thickness. The kits that screw together work
the best IMHO. Call around for a local supplier for door lites. Here is
one on the internet that offers the internal blinds:
http://www.discountdoor.com/doorlites.htm



--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
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"DonC" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been cut
and a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so we
know it's doable.

Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door? We'd
love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a
requirement.

Thanks ahead!

Don





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Old September 14th 07, 07:24 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Adding window to exterior door???

On 14 Sep, 00:41, "DonC" wrote:
"Jim Sullivan" wrote in message

. ..







"aemeijers" wrote in message
...


"DonC" wrote in message
...
Hi all,


We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been cut
and a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so we
know it's doable.


Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door? We'd
love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a
requirement.


Counting the labor (unless you have the tools and skill set yourself),
probably cheaper to buy a new door with the light (window) already in it.
How old is your house? Can you determine the brand of the door, like from
the hinges or data plate or threshold? If you call around, and maybe go
to a real door supply house (vs. the Borg), you may get lucky and find
one where all you have to do is swap the door panel and reuse the old
frame. To buy the window seperately, you will probably have to order a
replacement window through a door specialist, or maybe a glass company.
Make sure it is tempered glass- a door slammed by wind or kids or
whoever, generates a lot of G forces.


Now if you do want to do it yourself- don't try to do it on the hinges.
Take it down, and cover the opening with wood or plastic. Put the door on
sawhorses, and do your marking, measuring, and cutting there. If you have
never done this before, recommend practicing with sheets of cardboard
till you have an exact template of what the hole needs to look like. (No
idea if the windows come with a layout sheet.) Measure 3 times before you
drill and cut, and take care not to warp the door or leave ripply edges
by cutting too fast and scorching the metal- it is suprisingly thin. When
you put it together, make sure to use the provided gaskets and/or the
right flavor of caulking. Local window company may be willing to do the
install on a carried-in door, if you order the window through them.


Not sure where to get them, but we had exactly that done to our house in
Toronto 15 years ago. Guy who installed it showed up with a zipgun, cut
out the hole without removing the door, put in the insert and was gone in
15 minutes. It is a measure twice, cut one situation, but not as hard as
some have made it out to be.


-jim
seattlecurlerATcomcast.net


Jim,

That's exactly my take on the project. It's not that big a deal. I have the
skills, tools and experiences over more decades than I'd like to admit : ).
("zipgun" = "Sawzall", right? : ) I just need some leads regarding where to
find a window kit.

And yes I could replace the entire door but the original installation is a
custom job -- not a simple prehung door.

Don- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"zipgun" = "Sawzall", right?

"zipgun" = "Sawzall", wrong!

http://www.shropshirefire.gov.uk/Doc...er%20Tools.pdf

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Old September 14th 07, 08:31 PM posted to alt.home.repair
Joe
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Default Adding window to exterior door???

On Sep 13, 11:41 pm, "DonC" wrote:

snip.


("zipgun" = "Sawzall", right? : )


No. A zip gun is an air powered impact hammer, a mechanic's favorite
for stubborn ball joints, cutting off mufflers, whatever. HTH

Joe

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Old September 14th 07, 09:38 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Default Adding window to exterior door???


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 14 Sep, 00:41, "DonC" wrote:
"Jim Sullivan" wrote in message

. ..







"aemeijers" wrote in message
...


"DonC" wrote in message
...
Hi all,


We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It
seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been
cut
and a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so
we
know it's doable.


Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door?
We'd
love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a
requirement.


Counting the labor (unless you have the tools and skill set yourself),
probably cheaper to buy a new door with the light (window) already in
it.
How old is your house? Can you determine the brand of the door, like
from
the hinges or data plate or threshold? If you call around, and maybe
go
to a real door supply house (vs. the Borg), you may get lucky and find
one where all you have to do is swap the door panel and reuse the old
frame. To buy the window seperately, you will probably have to order a
replacement window through a door specialist, or maybe a glass
company.
Make sure it is tempered glass- a door slammed by wind or kids or
whoever, generates a lot of G forces.


Now if you do want to do it yourself- don't try to do it on the
hinges.
Take it down, and cover the opening with wood or plastic. Put the door
on
sawhorses, and do your marking, measuring, and cutting there. If you
have
never done this before, recommend practicing with sheets of cardboard
till you have an exact template of what the hole needs to look like.
(No
idea if the windows come with a layout sheet.) Measure 3 times before
you
drill and cut, and take care not to warp the door or leave ripply
edges
by cutting too fast and scorching the metal- it is suprisingly thin.
When
you put it together, make sure to use the provided gaskets and/or the
right flavor of caulking. Local window company may be willing to do
the
install on a carried-in door, if you order the window through them.


Not sure where to get them, but we had exactly that done to our house
in
Toronto 15 years ago. Guy who installed it showed up with a zipgun,
cut
out the hole without removing the door, put in the insert and was gone
in
15 minutes. It is a measure twice, cut one situation, but not as hard
as
some have made it out to be.


-jim
seattlecurlerATcomcast.net


Jim,

That's exactly my take on the project. It's not that big a deal. I have
the
skills, tools and experiences over more decades than I'd like to admit
: ).
("zipgun" = "Sawzall", right? : ) I just need some leads regarding where
to
find a window kit.

And yes I could replace the entire door but the original installation is
a
custom job -- not a simple prehung door.

Don- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"zipgun" = "Sawzall", right?

"zipgun" = "Sawzall", wrong!

http://www.shropshirefire.gov.uk/Doc...er%20Tools.pdf


oops, aired on that one : )


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Old September 14th 07, 10:06 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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On 14 Sep, 15:38, "DonC" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message

ups.com...





On 14 Sep, 00:41, "DonC" wrote:
"Jim Sullivan" wrote in message


m...


"aemeijers" wrote in message
...


"DonC" wrote in message
...
Hi all,


We'd like to add a window to our existing exterior metal door. It
seems
simple enough; such doors at Home Depot or Lowes appear to have been
cut
and a window has been added. Our previous door had such a window so
we
know it's doable.


Anyhow, where can I purchase an insert widow to add to our door?
We'd
love it to be one with an internal mini-blind but that's not a
requirement.


Counting the labor (unless you have the tools and skill set yourself),
probably cheaper to buy a new door with the light (window) already in
it.
How old is your house? Can you determine the brand of the door, like
from
the hinges or data plate or threshold? If you call around, and maybe
go
to a real door supply house (vs. the Borg), you may get lucky and find
one where all you have to do is swap the door panel and reuse the old
frame. To buy the window seperately, you will probably have to order a
replacement window through a door specialist, or maybe a glass
company.
Make sure it is tempered glass- a door slammed by wind or kids or
whoever, generates a lot of G forces.


Now if you do want to do it yourself- don't try to do it on the
hinges.
Take it down, and cover the opening with wood or plastic. Put the door
on
sawhorses, and do your marking, measuring, and cutting there. If you
have
never done this before, recommend practicing with sheets of cardboard
till you have an exact template of what the hole needs to look like.
(No
idea if the windows come with a layout sheet.) Measure 3 times before
you
drill and cut, and take care not to warp the door or leave ripply
edges
by cutting too fast and scorching the metal- it is suprisingly thin.
When
you put it together, make sure to use the provided gaskets and/or the
right flavor of caulking. Local window company may be willing to do
the
install on a carried-in door, if you order the window through them.


Not sure where to get them, but we had exactly that done to our house
in
Toronto 15 years ago. Guy who installed it showed up with a zipgun,
cut
out the hole without removing the door, put in the insert and was gone
in
15 minutes. It is a measure twice, cut one situation, but not as hard
as
some have made it out to be.


-jim
seattlecurlerATcomcast.net


Jim,


That's exactly my take on the project. It's not that big a deal. I have
the
skills, tools and experiences over more decades than I'd like to admit
: ).
("zipgun" = "Sawzall", right? : ) I just need some leads regarding where
to
find a window kit.


And yes I could replace the entire door but the original installation is
a
custom job -- not a simple prehung door.


Don- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


"zipgun" = "Sawzall", right?


"zipgun" = "Sawzall", wrong!


http://www.shropshirefire.gov.uk/Doc...hnical/Tech%20...


oops, aired on that one : )

Yeah, you really blew it.

 




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