[J.Lef]

The wife went out to ikea and came back with a 200 lb bookcase.
After spending the better part of 10 hours putting it together, I was
ready to mount it to wall for safety.
The bookcase will be close to 700 pounds heavy when full.
I stripped off the carpeting section, and actually took off the bottom
molding to insure a close fit.
The unit has two sort of L brackets(one at either top end )that is
attached to unit with two screws and then they expect you to mount to wall
with one large cutout hole, with a sort of washer/lock that has a big hole
and small locking hole.
For these jobs, I usually encounter a wall which is hollow after
drilling through and I would use a toggle bolt to insure the safety with
this weight.
When I starting drilling in, after about an inch, I realized I was
into something the drill bit wouldnt penetrate.
It wasnt a wood beam, thats for sure, or a wood stud.
I went to the other side of book case and tried that side(six feet
apart) and got same result. I tried two smaller pilot holes in various
locations and everything is that way, so I am assuming I am hitting
concrete/cement, as a beam I dont think would be that large.
How do I mount this unit, into concrete if that is what I am looking
at. I dont believe its brick or metal.
Thanks for any info provided. Much regards

[Edwin Pawlowski]

"J.Lef" wrote in message
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When I starting drilling in, after about an inch, I realized I was
into something the drill bit wouldnt penetrate.
It wasnt a wood beam, thats for sure, or a wood stud.
I went to the other side of book case and tried that side(six feet
apart) and got same result. I tried two smaller pilot holes in various
locations and everything is that way, so I am assuming I am hitting
concrete/cement, as a beam I dont think would be that large.
How do I mount this unit, into concrete if that is what I am looking
at. I dont believe its brick or metal.
Thanks for any info provided. Much regards

There are anchors made just for concrete. Using a masonry bit, drill the
proper sized hole. Insert the anchor, tighten down. There are many
different types available. Do you know for sure what type of construction
the building is? Is this an exterior wall?

[Jeff Wisnia]

J.Lef wrote:
The wife went out to ikea and came back with a 200 lb bookcase.
After spending the better part of 10 hours putting it together, I was
ready to mount it to wall for safety.
The bookcase will be close to 700 pounds heavy when full.
I stripped off the carpeting section, and actually took off the bottom
molding to insure a close fit.
The unit has two sort of L brackets(one at either top end )that is
attached to unit with two screws and then they expect you to mount to wall
with one large cutout hole, with a sort of washer/lock that has a big hole
and small locking hole.
For these jobs, I usually encounter a wall which is hollow after
drilling through and I would use a toggle bolt to insure the safety with
this weight.
When I starting drilling in, after about an inch, I realized I was
into something the drill bit wouldnt penetrate.
It wasnt a wood beam, thats for sure, or a wood stud.
I went to the other side of book case and tried that side(six feet
apart) and got same result. I tried two smaller pilot holes in various
locations and everything is that way, so I am assuming I am hitting
concrete/cement, as a beam I dont think would be that large.
How do I mount this unit, into concrete if that is what I am looking
at. I dont believe its brick or metal.
Thanks for any info provided. Much regards



Get yourself some "Tapcon" concrete screws and a masonry drill sized to
fit them.

Or use screw type expanding concrete anchors and get a masonry drill to
fit them.

This page may give you some more ideas:

http://tinyurl.com/3azcwr

HTH,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.

[Phisherman]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:41:17 GMT, "J.Lef" wrote:

The wife went out to ikea and came back with a 200 lb bookcase.
snip

There are special (blue) screws made specifically for concrete. Make
sure you use the correct size bit to drill the pilot hole.

[aemeijers]

"Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message
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J.Lef wrote:
The wife went out to ikea and came back with a 200 lb bookcase.
After spending the better part of 10 hours putting it together, I
was ready to mount it to wall for safety.
The bookcase will be close to 700 pounds heavy when full.
I stripped off the carpeting section, and actually took off the
bottom molding to insure a close fit.
The unit has two sort of L brackets(one at either top end )that is
attached to unit with two screws and then they expect you to mount to
wall with one large cutout hole, with a sort of washer/lock that has a
big hole and small locking hole.
For these jobs, I usually encounter a wall which is hollow after
drilling through and I would use a toggle bolt to insure the safety with
this weight.
When I starting drilling in, after about an inch, I realized I
was into something the drill bit wouldnt penetrate.
It wasnt a wood beam, thats for sure, or a wood stud.
I went to the other side of book case and tried that side(six feet
apart) and got same result. I tried two smaller pilot holes in various
locations and everything is that way, so I am assuming I am hitting
concrete/cement, as a beam I dont think would be that large.
How do I mount this unit, into concrete if that is what I am
looking at. I dont believe its brick or metal.
Thanks for any info provided. Much regards

Get yourself some "Tapcon" concrete screws and a masonry drill sized to
fit them.

Or use screw type expanding concrete anchors and get a masonry drill to
fit them.

This page may give you some more ideas:

http://tinyurl.com/3azcwr

Nobody else said it, so I will- OP should make sure this isn't a 'wet wall',
and he isn't drilling into iron waste stacks or something. Is this a house
or a condo? If the latter, I suspect he is hitting a fire break wall between
his unit and the next one. (Concrete block wall, with furring and drywall
over.) If a house, is this backing up to a chimney stack or something? Or is
this an older house of actual brick construction, and he is mounting on
old-style plaster over masonary work?

aem sends....

[J.Lef]

Nobody else said it, so I will- OP should make sure this isn't a 'wet
wall', and he isn't drilling into iron waste stacks or something. Is this
a house or a condo? If the latter, I suspect he is hitting a fire break
wall between his unit and the next one. (Concrete block wall, with furring
and drywall over.) If a house, is this backing up to a chimney stack or
something? Or is this an older house of actual brick construction, and he
is mounting on old-style plaster over masonary work?

This is a multi level condo built in 1954. Brick exterior, I
dont know much more about it. About the fire break wall, got me thinking.
This wall , while not an exterior wall, but does wind up at an exterior
wall.
Plus the other side of this wall , would be a stairwell. I
guess that wall would be a good place to have a firewall. How do I know for
sure, and what do I do if this is the case.
Much thanks to all that have responded, and any further info
much appreciated.
Its just the weight of the bookcase has me concerned, and with grandkids
running around sometimes, I want to make sure this bookcase stays put.
Much regards

[Edwin Pawlowski]

"J.Lef" wrote in message
Plus the other side of this wall , would be a stairwell. I
guess that wall would be a good place to have a firewall. How do I know
for sure, and what do I do if this is the case.
Much thanks to all that have responded, and any further info
much appreciated.
Its just the weight of the bookcase has me concerned, and with grandkids
running around sometimes, I want to make sure this bookcase stays put.
Much regards

Stairwells would have fire walls. It is probably 8" to 12" thick so you can
use an anchor.

[Jeff Wisnia]

J.Lef wrote:

Nobody else said it, so I will- OP should make sure this isn't a 'wet
wall', and he isn't drilling into iron waste stacks or something. Is this
a house or a condo? If the latter, I suspect he is hitting a fire break
wall between his unit and the next one. (Concrete block wall, with furring
and drywall over.) If a house, is this backing up to a chimney stack or
something? Or is this an older house of actual brick construction, and he
is mounting on old-style plaster over masonary work?

This is a multi level condo built in 1954. Brick exterior, I
dont know much more about it. About the fire break wall, got me thinking.
This wall , while not an exterior wall, but does wind up at an exterior
wall.

Plus the other side of this wall , would be a stairwell. I
guess that wall would be a good place to have a firewall. How do I know for
sure, and what do I do if this is the case.
Much thanks to all that have responded, and any further info
much appreciated.
Its just the weight of the bookcase has me concerned, and with grandkids
running around sometimes, I want to make sure this bookcase stays put.
Much regards



You are wiser beyond your years to think about that and want to make
sure it never falls.

Aboy ten years ago there was a tragedy at a day care center near us when
a youngster climbed up the side of a bookcase (or maybe it was a locker
setup, I can't remember which). He was crushed to death when it fell
over onto him.

While that was the worst, the place looked even more culpable and
despicable when word leaked out that the same item had been pulled over
a few month's earlier, without any serious injuries that time, and the
arseholes running the show just put it back up without doing anything to
secure it.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.

[J.Lef]

You are wiser beyond your years to think about that and want to make sure
it never falls.

Aboy ten years ago there was a tragedy at a day care center near us when a
youngster climbed up the side of a bookcase

Thanks to all. My better half is a kindergarden special
education teacher, so we know all to well the mishaps that need to be
prevented.
I took the advice(Much thanks to all) and went and got some
concrete anchors and a masonery drill bit.
The tricky part was knowing that the matching screws that came
with the anchor would be too short, since I had over a half inch of drywall
to go through first, plus the metal plate and bracket of wall unit, plus the
length of the anchor. So I picked up some matching screws that were both a
half inch long and three quarters of an inch longer.
The bit (using my regular dewalt 3/8 drill, went right
through the masonery with no problem. I measured on the drill bit, how deep
I needed and adjusted the bit so it went to correct debth when drill hit
wall.
I then blew some compressed air into hole, to clear it out,
and a whole bunch of black soot came out.
Job went well and wifey loves me once again LOL, I do hate
ikea. I really do. Not sure why, but just do on principal. My calls my
suv the "ikea car", instead of calling it my truck. It has a long
aftermarket roof rack on it, and she thinks I got it, just for her ikea
shopping.
That wall seems to be the only fire wall in my whole place,
and I never touched into it till now, after all these years.

Much regards once again

[mm]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:12:29 GMT, "J.Lef" wrote:

, I do hate
ikea. I really do. Not sure why, but just do on principal.

Ikea comes from a Swedish word meaning icky.