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I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:
http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...fh_view=search

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

[JoeSpareBedroom]

wrote in message
ups.com...
I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:
http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...fh_view=search

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?



Do you live so far from a local glass store that you can't just call them,
ask for advice, order it, and drive over to pick it up or have it delivered?
Or, haven't you opened the yellow pages and looked under "glass"?

[Malcolm Hoar]

In article . com, wrote:

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

If you have kids around on a regular basis, I would definitely
go for tempered. If you only have reasonably careful adults
0.5 inch non-tempered is reasonable.

You might try calling a local glass shop if there's a decent
one in your area. Some have good prices and you'll have the
full range of choices - size, thickness, tempered, or
whatever. You'll likely get good advice from someone that
really knows what they're talking about.


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| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| Gary Player. |
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[MRS. CLEAN]

On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, wrote:
I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

[charlie]

"MRS. CLEAN" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, wrote:
I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to
it:http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to
it:http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

i think you'll find most interior tabletops are untempered. i cut them up
all the time, and haven't found one yet.

exterior tabletops are tempered.

did you wind up with a couple 5 gallon bucket of tiny pieces? if not, then
it wasn't tempered to start with, and you can replace it with an untempered
piece.

i'm not sure i'd want a tempered dining room table. you wouldn't want it to
explosively deconstruct if you dropped a knife on the edge. you would rather
it chip instead.

regards,
charlie
http://glassartists.org/chaniarts

[[email protected]]

I was unaware that such stores exist. It's not every day that you
break your glass dining room table...

On Mar 5, 12:14 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...



I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:
http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

Do you live so far from a local glass store that you can't just call them,
ask for advice, order it, and drive over to pick it up or have it delivered?
Or, haven't you opened the yellow pages and looked under "glass"?

[JoeSpareBedroom]

Time to get on the phone! Not only can you have the thing made locally, but
you can even have it etched with images of Elvis. :-)


wrote in message
ups.com...
I was unaware that such stores exist. It's not every day that you
break your glass dining room table...

On Mar 5, 12:14 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...



I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:
http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

Do you live so far from a local glass store that you can't just call
them,
ask for advice, order it, and drive over to pick it up or have it
delivered?
Or, haven't you opened the yellow pages and looked under "glass"?

[[email protected]]

Thank you for giving a completely useless reply.

On Mar 5, 12:25 pm, "MRS. CLEAN" wrote:
On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, wrote:



I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

[[email protected]]

It broke into fairly big pieces. Only about 1/2 of it broke, the rest
is still left in tact.

I was thinking the same thing about a tempered piece. I read
somewhere that it would get destroyed (as you described) if it simply
chipped.

I'll try to find a local glass place and see what they think.

Thanks,
Ryan

On Mar 5, 12:48 pm, "charlie"
wrote:
"MRS. CLEAN" wrote in message

ups.com...



On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, wrote:
I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to
it:http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to
it:http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

i think you'll find most interior tabletops are untempered. i cut them up
all the time, and haven't found one yet.

exterior tabletops are tempered.

did you wind up with a couple 5 gallon bucket of tiny pieces? if not, then
it wasn't tempered to start with, and you can replace it with an untempered
piece.

i'm not sure i'd want a tempered dining room table. you wouldn't want it to
explosively deconstruct if you dropped a knife on the edge. you would rather
it chip instead.

regards,
charliehttp://glassartists.org/chaniarts

[Goedjn]

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:18:19 GMT, (Malcolm Hoar)
wrote:

In article . com, wrote:

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

If you have kids around on a regular basis, I would definitely
go for tempered. If you only have reasonably careful adults
0.5 inch non-tempered is reasonable.


If I was planning on running children, I think I'd go with
acrylic, polycarb, or laminated glass, depending on my budget.

[Malcolm Hoar]

In article , Goedjn wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:18:19 GMT, (Malcolm Hoar)
wrote:

In article . com,
wrote:

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

If you have kids around on a regular basis, I would definitely
go for tempered. If you only have reasonably careful adults
0.5 inch non-tempered is reasonable.


If I was planning on running children, I think I'd go with
acrylic, polycarb, or laminated glass, depending on my budget.

The touble is, the kids (and their toys) will scratch the
acrylic or polycarb to the point that it looks horrible.

You can probably work out how I know this with complete
certainty...

However, the wood surface of our coffee table is still
in pristine shape despite the now crappy sheet of polycarb
sitting on top of it!

--
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| Gary Player. |
| http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[MRS. CLEAN]

On Mar 5, 1:02 pm, wrote:
Thank you for giving a completely useless reply.

On Mar 5, 12:25 pm, "MRS. CLEAN" wrote:



On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, wrote:

I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Think something of it.

[Goedjn]

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:44:17 GMT, (Malcolm Hoar)
wrote:

In article , Goedjn wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:18:19 GMT, (Malcolm Hoar)
wrote:

In article . com,
wrote:

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

If you have kids around on a regular basis, I would definitely
go for tempered. If you only have reasonably careful adults
0.5 inch non-tempered is reasonable.


If I was planning on running children, I think I'd go with
acrylic, polycarb, or laminated glass, depending on my budget.

The touble is, the kids (and their toys) will scratch the
acrylic or polycarb to the point that it looks horrible.

You can probably work out how I know this with complete
certainty...

However, the wood surface of our coffee table is still
in pristine shape despite the now crappy sheet of polycarb
sitting on top of it!

In that application, I'd use plate glass. It's fully supported,
so nobody's likely to kill themselves even if they break it.
(well, ok, to be honest, in that application, I'd use
pressboard and a tablecloth...)

[Malcolm Hoar]

In article , Goedjn wrote:
However, the wood surface of our coffee table is still
in pristine shape despite the now crappy sheet of polycarb
sitting on top of it!

In that application, I'd use plate glass. It's fully supported,
so nobody's likely to kill themselves even if they break it.
(well, ok, to be honest, in that application, I'd use
pressboard and a tablecloth...)

Yeah, but the material was available in exactly the right
size, for free. Just one of those little gems of good
fortune. I was however, quite surprised at the speed with
which the kids were able to ruin it. And, to be fair to
them, they're generally a lot more careful than average.


--
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| Gary Player. |
| http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Frank Ketchum]

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
Time to get on the phone! Not only can you have the thing made locally,
but you can even have it etched with images of Elvis. :-)


I would recommend young Elvis for this.

[HeyBub]

MRS. CLEAN wrote:

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

Virtually every bit of glass in your home is untempered. Windows, drinking
utensils, picture coverings, mirrors. The only things I can think of that
MIGHT be tempered are patio doors and TV picture tubes.

You're living in a nest of hazards. Ramp up your prayers and have
tourniquets in every room. Maybe two.

[Steve B]

wrote

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?


A non-tempered piece of glass can kill you. Or your wife. Or a child. Or
anyone who just happens to hit a shard the right way.

If this is not enough of a concern to you, but cost is, buy el cheapo
non-tempered glass.

You can always have more kids, and you don't like your in-laws that much
anyway. Right?

Steve

[JoeSpareBedroom]

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

wrote

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?


A non-tempered piece of glass can kill you. Or your wife. Or a child.
Or anyone who just happens to hit a shard the right way.

If this is not enough of a concern to you, but cost is, buy el cheapo
non-tempered glass.

You can always have more kids, and you don't like your in-laws that much
anyway. Right?

Steve



Jeez...I thought *I* was blunt sometimes. :-)

But, you're right, at least about the in-laws.

[RicodJour]

wrote:
I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:
http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...fh_view=search

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

If I have to replace/repair something I like to upgrade it. In your
situation I'd go with the tempered. It's far stronger, does explode
into a million, safer pieces when it goes, but it takes a pretty good
impact on the edge to do it. Unlikely that you'd ever break tempered
that thick by hitting it on the face.

Call a local glass shop and price both flavors. The stuff's really
not that expensive. The polished edges add about as much to the cost
as the tempering.

As an alternative, call a Broyhill store/distributor and price a
replacement top. Since they get deliveries from the factory the
shipping shouldn't be a factor.
http://www.broyhillfurniture.com/store_locator/

R

[Norminn]

Steve B wrote:

wrote


Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?



A non-tempered piece of glass can kill you. Or your wife. Or a child. Or
anyone who just happens to hit a shard the right way.

If this is not enough of a concern to you, but cost is, buy el cheapo
non-tempered glass.

You can always have more kids, and you don't like your in-laws that much
anyway. Right?

Steve



Patio sliders are notorious because people walk or fall through them.
My son had a close call with glass from storm door when neighbor child
broke the glass. With small children around, I would put plexi in storm
door.

We have a table with glass top which is tempered. Not thick plate, as
it is supported by wood. Perhaps the thick plate can't be tempered?

We had glass cut to use as backsplash behind our cooktop. After
cutting, the shop sent it back to the factory to be tempered.

[JerseyMike]

wrote in message
ups.com...
I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:

http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...fh_view=search

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?



ok here's the deal, from the looks of the picture, your table is about
42"x80" x 3/8" thick w/ a 1"bevel on the edges. the replacement cost for
this is probably in the area of $500.00 - $600.00 from a local glass
company, depending where you live. there is no need for tempered glass but
the 3/8" thickness is very important, since it is free standing. if you
want to save a few $$$ there is no need to get the 1" bevel, you can get a
very nice High Polished edge instead.

anyone who is charging $100-$200 for deliver is a thief....delivery for this
is should only be about $75.00. usually if you have a glass company come
out to your house to measure the broken top and get the size right to where
you want it, delivery fees would/could be waived. that may be negotiable
for your area, i don't know where you live. with something like this, there
really isn't an installation just a quick clean and place on the table base.
if that is really your table in the picture or something similar you like,
then i'd say buy the new table and have the extra chairs and save a few $$$.

good luck,

mike.............

[JerseyMike]

"Norminn" wrote in message
hlink.net...
it is supported by wood. Perhaps the thick plate can't be tempered?

any thickness over 1/16" can be tempered. 1/8" tempered glass is use for
stormdoors and some tempered residential windows depending on the necessity.
store front glass in frames in 1/4" glass and again depending on the
location or other factors is either tempered or laminated. safety glass is
standard in all residential or commercial doors. patio doors are tempered
safety glass.....except very old doors that were made before the code was
changed for new installation and replacement glass.


We had glass cut to use as backsplash behind our cooktop. After
cutting, the shop sent it back to the factory to be tempered.

that's only for the heat resistant qualities from tempered glass. regular
plate glass can be heat sensitive, but once it is tempered, it can withstand
higher heat ranges, but it shouldn't be cooled rapidly, it could cause it to
break.

mike............

[Art]

I know someone who lost an arm falling into a non tempered glass table top.
Go with tempered. You can have it custom made locally. Often done. My
elderly parents had one made to protect a wood table 3 years ago. They
came, made a template, and came back with the glass.


wrote in message
ups.com...
I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:
http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...fh_view=search

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

[JerseyMike]

"Art" wrote in message
thlink.net...
I know someone who lost an arm falling into a non tempered glass table
top.
Go with tempered. You can have it custom made locally. Often done. My
elderly parents had one made to protect a wood table 3 years ago. They
came, made a template, and came back with the glass.


wrote in message
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I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:
http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:

http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...fh_view=search

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?




the chances of actually losing a limb are slim to none, not that it can't
happen. a finished edge table top should not be tempered because the edges
then become the glass tops worst enemy. while the surface of the top would
have a great resistance to impact and heat, the edges are very tempermental
and if hit in the wrong way,especially at the corners, the table top will
*explode* or just shatter. patio tios are usually tempered because they
recieve a great deal of abuse but are usually encased in a metal frame.

tempering a dining room table top is costly and not practical.

mike............

[Steve B]

"Art" wrote in message
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I know someone who lost an arm falling into a non tempered glass table top.
Go with tempered. You can have it custom made locally. Often done. My
elderly parents had one made to protect a wood table 3 years ago. They
came, made a template, and came back with the glass.



How could your friend have lost an arm? A recent poster said there was no
danger from the glass, and that most houses have lots and lots of glass.
How can you both be right?

I had a friend, now deceased from old age, who walked into a sliding glass
door which broke. It was in a big apartment project in Houston. It was not
tempered. One large shard cut his arm seriously and he very nearly bled to
death. What a horrible mess. He got a handsome settlement, and the cost of
retrofitting all the glass was enormous.

Accidents are not all that common. Yet look around at all the people.
Accidents cause people. And all the time, you hear of some fluke of an
accident where someone suffers or is killed. The stupid ones are the
preventable ones, like using untempered glass.

Steve

[Steve B]

"JerseyMike" wrote

the chances of actually losing a limb are slim to none, not that it can't
happen.

Cars are 100% safe, too.


tempering a dining room table top is costly and not practical.

mike............



Yeah. Absolutely no reason to do so. Do some Googling, and see that these
things happen.

My 84 year old mother in law fell onto a coffee table glass top amidst a
pile of Christmas clutter. She got one small cut on her arm, but others
have died in the same situation.

Do whatever you want, it's your relatives.

Steve

[HeyBub]

Steve B wrote:

Yeah. Absolutely no reason to do so. Do some Googling, and see that
these things happen.

My 84 year old mother in law fell onto a coffee table glass top
amidst a pile of Christmas clutter. She got one small cut on her
arm, but others have died in the same situation.

Do whatever you want, it's your relatives.

It was YOUR fault. I don't care what the holiday, your grandmother should
not have been dancing on top of the table.

[MRS. CLEAN]

On Mar 5, 6:14 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
MRS. CLEAN wrote:

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

Virtually every bit of glass in your home is untempered. Windows, drinking
utensils, picture coverings, mirrors. The only things I can think of that
MIGHT be tempered are patio doors and TV picture tubes.

You're living in a nest of hazards. Ramp up your prayers and have
tourniquets in every room. Maybe two.

Bathroom shower doors?

[MRS. CLEAN]

On Mar 5, 1:02 pm, wrote:
Thank you for giving a completely useless reply.

On Mar 5, 12:25 pm, "MRS. CLEAN" wrote:



On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, wrote:

I recently moved and upon transporting my dining room table, I broke
the glass top. I believe the old piece was tempered glass. I'm not
sure the thickness. Here is a link to it:http://www.easylifefurniture.com/din...sstown_dr.html

I have found many places online that sell glass, but it costs a lot
for delivery (about 100-200 dollars). Pier 1 sells a glass tabletop
and they have some in a local store. The one for sale is a little
smaller than my old tabletop, but I don't mind. It will still fit my
current table, but with less overhang. The only problem I have with
the Pier 1 tabletop is that it is non-tempered. Here is a link to it:http://www.pier1.com/catalog/product...10&returnURL=h...

Pier 1 says that non-tempered is the industry standard for tabletops.
Is this correct?

I have read that tempered breaks into smaller pieces, whereas non-
tempered breaks into larger (sharper) pieces. Tempered also is
stronger. Non-tempered can chip without ruining the whole piece, but
tempered can chip and destroy the whole table.

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.- Hide quoted text -

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This group is very wise.
We don't bother taking chances
and improve our homes whenever
feasible.

We are all growed up adults.

[Edwin Pawlowski]

"MRS. CLEAN" wrote in message
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On Mar 5, 6:14 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
MRS. CLEAN wrote:

Should I go with the non-tempered, or should I look around for
tempered because of the safety concerns?

You must be out of your mind.

Never use nontempered glass. Cutting an artery gives you five minutes
until death.

Ridiculous, utterly ridiculous.

Virtually every bit of glass in your home is untempered. Windows,
drinking
utensils, picture coverings, mirrors. The only things I can think of that
MIGHT be tempered are patio doors and TV picture tubes.

You're living in a nest of hazards. Ramp up your prayers and have
tourniquets in every room. Maybe two.

Bathroom shower doors?


They would be tempered. I don't know if it is state or Federal, but all
doors must have tempered glass. Comes down to risk factors. People walk
into doors very often, hardly ever walk into or through a window. Table
tops, I'm not so sure if it is a glass covering the wood, but mine are
double thickness. A glass topped table certainly should be tempered.

[Colbyt]

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

tops, I'm not so sure if it is a glass covering the wood, but mine are
double thickness. A glass topped table certainly should be tempered.


The reality is almost no glass tabletop is tempered. They are just thick
glass.

I learned that one the hard way when we dropped a bowl from a height of
about 6" to the tabletop.

Colbyt

[Edwin Pawlowski]

"Colbyt" wrote in message

The reality is almost no glass tabletop is tempered. They are just thick
glass.

I learned that one the hard way when we dropped a bowl from a height of
about 6" to the tabletop.

Could be. I found this place
http://www.glasstopsdirect.com/glass-round-54.php
They state the 3/8" top is tempered. I'd then assume the thicker ones are
not. If broken a 3/4" thick section is less likely to slice through your
gut than a thin one.

[aemeijers]

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
.. .

"Colbyt" wrote in message

The reality is almost no glass tabletop is tempered. They are just thick
glass.

I learned that one the hard way when we dropped a bowl from a height of
about 6" to the tabletop.

Could be. I found this place
http://www.glasstopsdirect.com/glass-round-54.php
They state the 3/8" top is tempered. I'd then assume the thicker ones are
not. If broken a 3/4" thick section is less likely to slice through your
gut than a thin one.
Other than maybe a cheap garage sale patio table with a 'captive' glass
insert in the top, no way would I ever pay money for a glass table. My
decrepit body has already got too many scars, and I am way too much of
klutz. I don't need furniture that can kill me if I trip over it in the
dark.

aem sends....

[Goedjn]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:20:57 -0500, "Colbyt"
wrote:


"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
t...

tops, I'm not so sure if it is a glass covering the wood, but mine are
double thickness. A glass topped table certainly should be tempered.


The reality is almost no glass tabletop is tempered. They are just thick
glass.

I learned that one the hard way when we dropped a bowl from a height of
about 6" to the tabletop.



Well... the real reality is that glass is a dumb-ass thing to
make a table out of, but I'll admit it looks cool.

[HomeDecoy]

On Mar 8, 11:36 am, Goedjn wrote:
Well... the real reality is that glass is a dumb-ass thing to
make a table out of, but I'll admit it looks cool.

My parents had a glass top kitchen table and it's been replaced at
least twice that I know of. My mom shattered it once by accidently
putting a very hot pan on it and a TINY shard that wasn't found during
clean up found its way into my dads foot. (He survived haha) Another
time my mom dropped something (a heavy pot I believe) and it shattered
again. My brother almost fell on it while replacing a light bulb (he's
an electrician even) and if he had fallen, would have caused damage to
him for sure.
My half a cent: I never liked the glass top and personally wouldn't
get a kitchen/dining table that had it as the top. Even if my family
never came over to put themselves in danger, I just don't like them.
It just takes one wrong move to destroy them and I'd rather have a
wood top that will dent instead of shatter.

[Colbyt]

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
.. .
http://www.glasstopsdirect.com/glass-round-54.php
They state the 3/8" top is tempered. I'd then assume the thicker ones are
not. If broken a 3/4" thick section is less likely to slice through your
gut than a thin one.


Honestly I thought they all were until we broke ours. While getting a new
one made at the local glass I chatted with the owner. He is the one who
told me that almost none are. He added that he sells quite a few
replacements each year.

Colbyt

[charlie]

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
.. .

"Colbyt" wrote in message

The reality is almost no glass tabletop is tempered. They are just thick
glass.

I learned that one the hard way when we dropped a bowl from a height of
about 6" to the tabletop.

Could be. I found this place
http://www.glasstopsdirect.com/glass-round-54.php
They state the 3/8" top is tempered. I'd then assume the thicker ones are
not. If broken a 3/4" thick section is less likely to slice through your
gut than a thin one.

nope, more likely. the 3/4" one will be far heavier, and if dropped on a
limb or foot, will just slice it off because the glass edge can be sharper
than most knives.

3/4" thick glass is 10.1 lbs/sqft.

regards,
charlie
http://glassartists.org/chaniarts