Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

diesel fuel (fuel oil) degrades plastic. It needs to be black iron. Not
galvanized. I assume this is an in ground tank? And if the man wants it
lower, then frikkin lower it. It's his problem to fill it, not yours.

--
Steve Barker


"terri" wrote in message
ups.com...
Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

On Jan 26, 10:50 am, "terri" wrote:
Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

Guessing here but I think if it is at a steep angle and large enuff
pipe the fuel wo'nt be restricted,,why not just ask the delivery guy or
company for specs? On Your cars' gas tank the fill pipe diameter is
much larger than the gas pumps' nozzel and is at a steep angle..
Dean

Ask them to send someone out to look it over and discuss it with you
personally. If they are reluctant to do so, tell them you'll put in a
heat pump. If they continue to give you problems, find another oil
company.

Do seriously consider their recommendations. 500 gallons of oil on the
ground is a bad thing.


-rev





On Jan 26, 11:50 am, "terri" wrote:
Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

"terri" wrote in message
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most

Iron pipe is a must. I don't know how high he wants it, but they should be
able to tell you what height is best for them. Honestly, 7' is kind of
silly. How would you pump gas into your car if the filler extended that
high? I would want the maximum about 4' or so. The pipe should also be a
size at least as large as the connection on the tank. It may require a
standard cap on the end also.

As for filling in the garage, there are many new regulations for handling
hazardous materials and there is a lot of liability for them to take an oil
hose into a building. It should have been piped outside when originally
installed. This is being done for your safety as well as the oil company.

thank you. I think that is a very good idea. You are so right. I am
concerned about fuel spilling out! I will be discussing this with my
husband tonight, that's for sure!

On Jan 26, 12:57 pm, "The Reverend Natural Light"
wrote:
Ask them to send someone out to look it over and discuss it with you
personally. If they are reluctant to do so, tell them you'll put in a
heat pump. If they continue to give you problems, find another oil
company.

Do seriously consider their recommendations. 500 gallons of oil on the
ground is a bad thing.

-rev

On Jan 26, 11:50 am, "terri" wrote:

Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

terri wrote:
Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem.
Last year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the
tank until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to
pour the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company,
they finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

Why the hell don't you ASK him?

Pop`

you know what? you're right. Why the hell don't I just ask him? I will
try not to be rude however. Just thought I would ask for a little help.

On Jan 26, 1:26 pm, "Pop`" wrote:
terri wrote:
Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem.
Last year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the
tank until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to
pour the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company,
they finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
TerriWhy the hell don't you ASK him?

Pop`

The oil company is probably trying to be not too awkward so as to not
lose a customer.
But it does sound as though the provincial/national/state regulations
for the handling and storage of fuel oils are either pretty weak or are
loosely enforced.

On Jan 26, 4:17 pm, "terry" wrote:
The oil company is probably trying to be not too awkward so as to not
lose a customer.
But it does sound as though the provincial/national/state regulations
for the handling and storage of fuel oils are either pretty weak or are
loosely enforced.

On Jan 26, 11:50 am, "terri" wrote:
Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

For guidance ONLY, check this site and read about installation...YMMV

http://www.granbytanks.com/usa/residential_tank01.shtml

On 26 Jan 2007 08:50:06 -0800, "terri" wrote:

My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,

The opening of the pipe is 7 feet above the ground? What am I
missing?

attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank.

Another thing you might consider is another supplier. There's usually
several in the area, and you should be price checking them anyway.

--
Steve Barker


"terri" wrote in message
ups.com...
Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri

Help!!! We have our heating oil fuel tank located in the back of our
garage. For the last
several years, our fuel oil company has filled it with no problem. Last
year, the delivery
driver left a note on his delivery card that he would not fill the tank
until we ran a line
from the tank to the outside of the house. My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,
attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank. After numerous calls to our fuel oil company, they
finally came
and filled the tank yesterday. NOW the delivery driver says AGAIN that
they will not
deliver until we lower the fill pipe and replace it with iron pipe. Is
it necessary to use iron
pipe and if we lower the pipe, won't that restrict the flow of fuel
being poured in? I don't
mean to sound ignorant, I just want to do what is right and get this
straightened out
once and for all. Any information you can provide would be most
appreciated.
Thank you
Terri


Yes, any filler ant vent pipe should be black iron pipe and well sealed so
the PVC is certainly out of the picture. Remove all the PVC and call
another fuel company to see if they will deliver to the inside. Of course
you should have a vent pipe to the outside anyway, do you? I'm not sure
about any code regarding filling the tank in the garage, but if nothing else
I'm sure they are worrying about a few issues with that set up. You may
have to just go with running iron pipe to the outside, ask the fuel
dealer(s) exactly what they want to see before you do anything so you don't
do a bunch of work again for nothing.

"cavedweller" wrote in message
ups.com...

For guidance ONLY, check this site and read about installation...YMMV

http://www.granbytanks.com/usa/residential_tank01.shtml


Very good link. The installation manual says it all -- talks about what
material the fill pipe must be made of (wrought iron, steel, brass), and
that the fill pipe shall not be more than 3 feet above ground level.

On Jan 26, 12:40 pm, mm wrote:
On 26 Jan 2007 08:50:06 -0800, "terri" wrote:

My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,The opening of the pipe is 7 feet above the ground? What am I
missing?



attached to the
outside of the garage. It makes sense to me to have it high for the
fuel to travel at least
10 feet to the tank.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

The same thing I am apparently. What no-one has mentioned in this
thread is the obvious.

_The filler opening at the truck end has to be higher than the tank_.
Assuming the delivery truck is sitting on the same level as the tank
and the tank will be at least 5 ft high, then a reasonable slope to the
pipe will put it at around 7ft over 20 or 30 ft run.

Definitely a case of talking to the company and getting their
recommendations.

Oddly, I moved my tank about 25 years years, asked them then, "PVC is
fine". Used it and haven't had any problems (yet).

Harry K

"mm" wrote in message
...
On 26 Jan 2007 08:50:06 -0800, "terri" wrote:

My husband did this. I
couldn't say for sure
how he did it, but the line goes from tank to a capped off pipe to pour
the fuel oil in.
This was done with pvc pipe and it is about 7' from the ground up,

The opening of the pipe is 7 feet above the ground? What am I
missing?


That many drivers would have to bring a stepladder to hook on, reach the
fill lever and listen to the tank whistle. Given the picture that I
visualize the driver probably has to park on the driveway to have enough
hose to pull around the house.

Bill

_The filler opening at the truck end has to be higher than the tank_.
Assuming the delivery truck is sitting on the same level as the tank
and the tank will be at least 5 ft high, then a reasonable slope to the
pipe will put it at around 7ft over 20 or 30 ft run.


It is also helpful if the fill-spout is somewhere
where the truck driver doesn't have to climb
a ladder to get to it. 7' up seems excessive.

On Jan 27, 2:33 pm, Goedjn wrote:
_The filler opening at the truck end has to be higher than the tank_.
Assuming the delivery truck is sitting on the same level as the tank
and the tank will be at least 5 ft high, then a reasonable slope to the
pipe will put it at around 7ft over 20 or 30 ft run.It is also helpful if the fill-spout is somewhere
where the truck driver doesn't have to climb
a ladder to get to it. 7' up seems excessive.

And if that is where it has to be to provide slope to the tank? Point
is that physics may require it and nothing can be done to modify it.
That is why the oil company needs to talk with the owner over the
problem to see if they can come to a meeting of the minds.

I may be that the tank is lower than the driveway level or that the
slope he used to install was excessive. Not enough information in
the OP to tell.

Harry K