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tankless water heater vs. small water heater.
Ok Ive been checking into these now and would like to have hot water
for washing hands only. I have a few questions on them though. Ive been looking at the PowerStream Ae12 (http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...treamIndex.htm) for under the sink, The ariston 4 gl(http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...istonIndex.htm) for under the sink and a GE 2.5 gallon water heater(http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...20308985-22733) for under the sink. I understand the Ariston 4gl would have to be plugged into the wall full time so it can heat and keep the stored 4gl water hot. It has a 1500 element which sounds like its going to be pricey in my electric bill if left on all the time and if plugged in when only needed it'll take alot longer to heat the water and end up using a lot of electricity. The powerstream ae12 appears to be the cheapest at $169.00 and sounds a bit pricey for hook up with 8 gauge wire and 2 breakers but for a one time cost of installation and the way I understood it to operate would be the better choice as the hot water is only heated when you turn on the water. When the water isnt on there is no electricity being used. Please correct me if I read it wrong. Also at 240v's how would I determine a size breaker I would need? Any formulas for this? I just heard about the Ge 2.5 gl water heater but the guy at home depot said its better than the tankless.It'll use less electricity. To me it sounds similar to the ariston 4 gl as the ge has 1440 watts and plugs in as well.Not to mention it holds less water in the tank. So to my knowledge it would cost roughly the same in electricity use to keep the water warm just as the ariston. It sounded to me that the smaller powerstream under the sink type tankless water heaters were more cost efficient in usage as it only uses electricity to warm the water when the hot water is in use. Is the powerstream ae12 giving you 12 gallons per hour? The units are priced near the $180 mark and under except for the aristone that was $129. Anyone know any different? Am I reading between the lines correctly? |
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Spider wrote:
Ok Ive been checking into these now and would like to have hot water for washing hands only. I have a few questions on them though. Ive been looking at the PowerStream Ae12 (http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...treamIndex.htm) for under the sink, The ariston 4 gl(http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...istonIndex.htm) for under the sink and a GE 2.5 gallon water heater(http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...20308985-22733) for under the sink. I understand the Ariston 4gl would have to be plugged into the wall full time so it can heat and keep the stored 4gl water hot. It has a 1500 element which sounds like its going to be pricey in my electric bill if left on all the time and if plugged in when only needed it'll take alot longer to heat the water and end up using a lot of electricity. The powerstream ae12 appears to be the cheapest at $169.00 and sounds a bit pricey for hook up with 8 gauge wire and 2 breakers but for a one time cost of installation and the way I understood it to operate would be the better choice as the hot water is only heated when you turn on the water. When the water isnt on there is no electricity being used. Please correct me if I read it wrong. Also at 240v's how would I determine a size breaker I would need? Any formulas for this? I just heard about the Ge 2.5 gl water heater but the guy at home depot said its better than the tankless.It'll use less electricity. To me it sounds similar to the ariston 4 gl as the ge has 1440 watts and plugs in as well.Not to mention it holds less water in the tank. So to my knowledge it would cost roughly the same in electricity use to keep the water warm just as the ariston. It sounded to me that the smaller powerstream under the sink type tankless water heaters were more cost efficient in usage as it only uses electricity to warm the water when the hot water is in use. Is the powerstream ae12 giving you 12 gallons per hour? The units are priced near the $180 mark and under except for the aristone that was $129. Anyone know any different? Am I reading between the lines correctly? The tankless water heaters only use electricity (except for a tiny amount) when you turn on the hot water faucet. The one with the tank will use electricity to keep its tank of water hot all of the time. So, if you put in GE 2.5, it will continuously keep the water hot. If you leave for 3 weeks, it will keep the water hot for you all 3 weeks. The others will come on when you turn on the hot water and turn off when you turn off the water. So it will use no electricity for the 3 weeks you are gone. Or at night, or whenever you are not using water. IOW, the tankless is much more efficient on electrical use. The Ariston is just a water heater with a small tank so that you have hot water instantly. It is for use for areas that are far from the water heater and take a long time for the water from the hot water spigot to get to the fixture. It only has enough hot water to last until the hot water from the big water heater gets to the fixture. You will not be happy with this one. With the Powerstream, you will never run out of hot water. With the Ariston, you will run out of hot water in less than a minute. With the tanked heater, you will run out of hot water in about 10 minutes. YMMV, depending upon your water pressure, the size of your pipes, etc. -- Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc. Georgetown, TX |
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Thanks alot Robert for clearing my thoughts up. I needed to hear it
from someone that actually knows whats going on Talking to some of those people in home depot,lowe's, etc. are too busy as these stores have only one person covering 3-4 different sections answering questions/phones and working at the same time. I called a few different stores to find out from different workers and knowledge does range but all were very busy especially on the weekend. Getting a clear answer is tough sometimes. Thanks again I now know what unit I want and it was the correct one I thought "the powerstream". Robert Allison wrote: Spider wrote: Ok Ive been checking into these now and would like to have hot water for washing hands only. I have a few questions on them though. Ive been looking at the PowerStream Ae12 (http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...treamIndex.htm) for under the sink, The ariston 4 gl(http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...istonIndex.htm) for under the sink and a GE 2.5 gallon water heater(http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...20308985-22733) for under the sink. I understand the Ariston 4gl would have to be plugged into the wall full time so it can heat and keep the stored 4gl water hot. It has a 1500 element which sounds like its going to be pricey in my electric bill if left on all the time and if plugged in when only needed it'll take alot longer to heat the water and end up using a lot of electricity. The powerstream ae12 appears to be the cheapest at $169.00 and sounds a bit pricey for hook up with 8 gauge wire and 2 breakers but for a one time cost of installation and the way I understood it to operate would be the better choice as the hot water is only heated when you turn on the water. When the water isnt on there is no electricity being used. Please correct me if I read it wrong. Also at 240v's how would I determine a size breaker I would need? Any formulas for this? I just heard about the Ge 2.5 gl water heater but the guy at home depot said its better than the tankless.It'll use less electricity. To me it sounds similar to the ariston 4 gl as the ge has 1440 watts and plugs in as well.Not to mention it holds less water in the tank. So to my knowledge it would cost roughly the same in electricity use to keep the water warm just as the ariston. It sounded to me that the smaller powerstream under the sink type tankless water heaters were more cost efficient in usage as it only uses electricity to warm the water when the hot water is in use. Is the powerstream ae12 giving you 12 gallons per hour? The units are priced near the $180 mark and under except for the aristone that was $129. Anyone know any different? Am I reading between the lines correctly? The tankless water heaters only use electricity (except for a tiny amount) when you turn on the hot water faucet. The one with the tank will use electricity to keep its tank of water hot all of the time. So, if you put in GE 2.5, it will continuously keep the water hot. If you leave for 3 weeks, it will keep the water hot for you all 3 weeks. The others will come on when you turn on the hot water and turn off when you turn off the water. So it will use no electricity for the 3 weeks you are gone. Or at night, or whenever you are not using water. IOW, the tankless is much more efficient on electrical use. The Ariston is just a water heater with a small tank so that you have hot water instantly. It is for use for areas that are far from the water heater and take a long time for the water from the hot water spigot to get to the fixture. It only has enough hot water to last until the hot water from the big water heater gets to the fixture. You will not be happy with this one. With the Powerstream, you will never run out of hot water. With the Ariston, you will run out of hot water in less than a minute. With the tanked heater, you will run out of hot water in about 10 minutes. YMMV, depending upon your water pressure, the size of your pipes, etc. -- Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc. Georgetown, TX |
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If you live in a COLD area where incoming water can be as low as 40
degrees when it enters your home beware of the tankless, just what are you trying to accomplish? tankless have troubles when incoming water temp is low tank types are pretty efficent well insulated the little heat they lose in the winter helps heat your home. you can add extra insulation to minimize those losses futher.. |
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tankless water heater vs. small water heater.
I heard that you have to have 200 amp service...I
might have heard wrong, It was at a Home show which was noisy! "Spider" wrote in message ups.com... Ok Ive been checking into these now and would like to have hot water for washing hands only. I have a few questions on them though. Ive been looking at the PowerStream Ae12 (http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...treamIndex.htm) for under the sink, The ariston 4 gl(http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirec...istonIndex.htm) for under the sink and a GE 2.5 gallon water heater(http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...20308985-22733) for under the sink. I understand the Ariston 4gl would have to be plugged into the wall full time so it can heat and keep the stored 4gl water hot. It has a 1500 element which sounds like its going to be pricey in my electric bill if left on all the time and if plugged in when only needed it'll take alot longer to heat the water and end up using a lot of electricity. The powerstream ae12 appears to be the cheapest at $169.00 and sounds a bit pricey for hook up with 8 gauge wire and 2 breakers but for a one time cost of installation and the way I understood it to operate would be the better choice as the hot water is only heated when you turn on the water. When the water isnt on there is no electricity being used. Please correct me if I read it wrong. Also at 240v's how would I determine a size breaker I would need? Any formulas for this? I just heard about the Ge 2.5 gl water heater but the guy at home depot said its better than the tankless.It'll use less electricity. To me it sounds similar to the ariston 4 gl as the ge has 1440 watts and plugs in as well.Not to mention it holds less water in the tank. So to my knowledge it would cost roughly the same in electricity use to keep the water warm just as the ariston. It sounded to me that the smaller powerstream under the sink type tankless water heaters were more cost efficient in usage as it only uses electricity to warm the water when the hot water is in use. Is the powerstream ae12 giving you 12 gallons per hour? The units are priced near the $180 mark and under except for the aristone that was $129. Anyone know any different? Am I reading between the lines correctly? |
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tankless water heater vs. small water heater.
On Dec 23, 9:00*am, wrote:
It would seem that the first thing that needs to be clarified is what the intended application You do realize that you're responding to a FOUR YEAR OLD thread, right? F U homeowner's hub. |
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tankless water heater vs. small water heater.
I would never compare a small-tank water heater with a tankless water heater. Mini-tanks are for point-of-use installations and they are meant to last until the main water heater kicks in. They are for giving you instant hot water and to alleviate the cold water delay that happens in outlets far from the main unit in very large houses. Mini-tanks just don't have power to replace the outgoing hot water in seconds as an electric tankless water heater does. This article can give you and idea on what tankless is about:
http://toastyreviews.hubpages.com/hu...heater-reviews |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:56:05 -0700 (PDT), solhe
wrote: I would never compare a small-tank water heater with a tankless water heater. Mini-tanks are for point-of-use installations and they are meant to last until the main water heater kicks in. They are for giving you instant hot water and to alleviate the cold water delay that happens in outlets far from the main unit in very large houses. Mini-tanks just don't have power to replace the outgoing hot water in seconds as an electric tankless water heater does. This article can give you and idea on what tankless is about: http:/ Nobody here cares about you being from Turkey. **** you. |
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