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[email protected] September 13th 06 04:53 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?


Joe September 13th 06 05:32 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 

wrote:
How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?


One way to find out specs is to call Customer Service and ask for
bochures on the products you are inetrested in. Most web sites have 800
numbers for just this purpose.
FWIW, Clopay has been around for ages, never ran across Amarr before,
but then our local Lowes store is rather recent.
Spend some time browsing through Google listings and look over web
sites for more info. If you have a handy local library, check out the
Thomas Register, a compendium of thousands of manufacturers and note
the listings that appeal to you.
Remember steel gauge is only one facet of quality. More important is
the galvanizing and the multilayer topcoats. Read up on metal roofing,
for example , for good info on finishes. Better one carry a 50 year
warranty. Good luck.

Joe


Art September 13th 06 03:36 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
Check your phone book to see if Wayne Dalton store is in your area. They
make superior doors. Lowes may carry them but in my experience WD will sell
it installed cheaper than Lowes. Also they have a neat opener that fits
over the door instead of needing a track across the ceiling.


wrote in message
ups.com...
How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?




[email protected] September 14th 06 07:42 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
I got a hold of Amarr and Clopay cust svc.
Clopay (Holmes/Home Depot) says their's is a nominal steel gauge rating
while Amarr (ReliaBilt/Lowe's) says theirs is a true gauge. I'm still
not sure how much difference that makes. I've searched the web a bit,
but if it were really that important I would expect there to be a lot
more info explaining it.

Art wrote:
Check your phone book to see if Wayne Dalton store is in your area. They
make superior doors. Lowes may carry them but in my experience WD will sell
it installed cheaper than Lowes. Also they have a neat opener that fits
over the door instead of needing a track across the ceiling.


wrote in message
ups.com...
How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?



Edwin Pawlowski September 14th 06 09:23 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
I got a hold of Amarr and Clopay cust svc.
Clopay (Holmes/Home Depot) says their's is a nominal steel gauge rating
while Amarr (ReliaBilt/Lowe's) says theirs is a true gauge. I'm still
not sure how much difference that makes. I've searched the web a bit,
but if it were really that important I would expect there to be a lot
more info explaining it.


Doubt it makes any difference as you can be talking thousandths of an inch
difference. The thickness of the steel is a factor, but much more important
is what you do with it, how you form it, how you paint it, and how well the
hardware fits and works.



Andy Asberry September 15th 06 12:04 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On 12 Sep 2006 19:53:23 -0700, wrote:

How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?


I have 5 Amarr doors, three insulated. All have the torsion spring(s)
which are matched to the door weight. Preload the specified number of
turns and they work correctly every time.

Hot-dipped galvanized American made steel.

--Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy--

[email protected] March 5th 15 02:52 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On Thursday, September 14, 2006 at 3:04:33 PM UTC-7, Andy Asberry wrote:
On 12 Sep 2006 19:53:23 -0700, wrote:

How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?


I have 5 Amarr doors, three insulated. All have the torsion spring(s)
which are matched to the door weight. Preload the specified number of
turns and they work correctly every time.

Hot-dipped galvanized American made steel.

--Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy--


all manufacturers of steel doors [pan or insulated] use similar steel. finish at the factory is important. in this discussion only two mfgs. are mentioned. there are many. all mfg. similar styles and grades. in most cases it is the homeowner who decides what is best for them [appearance and budget].

Nope May 7th 15 04:54 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 8:36:19 AM UTC-5, Art wrote:
Check your phone book to see if Wayne Dalton store is in your area. They
make superior doors. Lowes may carry them but in my experience WD will sell
it installed cheaper than Lowes. Also they have a neat opener that fits
over the door instead of needing a track across the ceiling.


Superior? LOL Wayne Dalton makes the worst doors in the market. I've been doing doors for decades and have seen it all. You can't tell me that a door with PLASTIC drums, Internal springs (aka very low cycle) paper backing and outright FALSE R value claims makes a good door.(Its an R 3 for 80% of the door, but in 2" per panel has a thick rib section with an R20 or something like that, so they give it the "average" R value, even though the huge majority of the door is an R3...) Not to mention the opener you reference is also the most unreliable on the market.

I have no doubt you work for Wayne Dalton since they are the ONLY people who recommend that junk, anyone who does this for a living wouldn't never put one in their own homes

Stormin Mormon[_10_] May 7th 15 09:21 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On 5/7/2015 10:54 AM, Nope wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 at 8:36:19 AM UTC-5, Art wrote:


Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?

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Sleestak June 6th 15 04:44 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
replying to Stormin Mormon , Sleestak wrote:
cayoung61 wrote:

Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?



Yes, it is relevant. Why would it not be?

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[email protected] September 12th 16 11:32 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 10:44:04 PM UTC-4, Sleestak wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon , Sleestak wrote:
cayoung61 wrote:

Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?



Yes, it is relevant. Why would it not be?

--


I am considering new garage door - considering both Clopay and Wayne Dalton.
The quoted installation price difference is quite large. Wayne Dalton (model 8300)is around $875 Canadian and Clopay (model 4053)is around $1200 Canadian.
After reviewing lots of reviews, it seems that Clopay is better than Wayne Dalton in terms of quality.

I would like to know what your comment are.

Thanks
Joseph

Oren[_2_] September 13th 16 01:24 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:32:15 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I would like to know what your comment are.


Buy a garage door built by the Martin family from Utah.

http://www.martindoor.com/

Visit HD to see a operational display.

Wade Garrett September 13th 16 03:58 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On 9/12/16 5:32 PM, wrote:
On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 10:44:04 PM UTC-4, Sleestak wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon , Sleestak wrote:
cayoung61 wrote:

Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?



Yes, it is relevant. Why would it not be?

--


I am considering new garage door - considering both Clopay and Wayne Dalton.
The quoted installation price difference is quite large. Wayne Dalton (model 8300)is around $875 Canadian and Clopay (model 4053)is around $1200 Canadian.
After reviewing lots of reviews, it seems that Clopay is better than Wayne Dalton in terms of quality.

I would like to know what your comment are.

Thanks
Joseph


Have had two higher-end model Clopay steel two car garage doors for
years. No issues.

A few years ago, our driveway replacement contractor hit the door with
his Bobcat bucket. The Clopay regional sales office was very
helpful...quickly rounding up a skilled installer and supplying a
comparable model new door from their local warehouse which of course the
driveway guy paid for.

--
With all this €śgun control€ť talk, I havent heard one politician say how
they plan to take guns away from criminals and terrorists€” just from law
abiding citizens€¦

Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_16_] September 13th 16 04:10 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
Just git one locally made by boys in da hood, and forgit about all that
phancy phagg ****.


[email protected] September 13th 16 06:57 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-4, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 9/12/16 5:32 PM, wrote:
On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 10:44:04 PM UTC-4, Sleestak wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon , Sleestak wrote:
cayoung61 wrote:

Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?


Yes, it is relevant. Why would it not be?

--


I am considering new garage door - considering both Clopay and Wayne Dalton.
The quoted installation price difference is quite large. Wayne Dalton (model 8300)is around $875 Canadian and Clopay (model 4053)is around $1200 Canadian.
After reviewing lots of reviews, it seems that Clopay is better than Wayne Dalton in terms of quality.

I would like to know what your comment are.

Thanks
Joseph


Have had two higher-end model Clopay steel two car garage doors for
years. No issues.

A few years ago, our driveway replacement contractor hit the door with
his Bobcat bucket. The Clopay regional sales office was very
helpful...quickly rounding up a skilled installer and supplying a
comparable model new door from their local warehouse which of course the
driveway guy paid for.

--
With all this €śgun control€ť talk, I havent heard one politician say how
they plan to take guns away from criminals and terrorists€” just from law
abiding citizens€¦


Good to know. I planned for the Premium Series. model 4050 or 4053.
The specification is 26 Gauge Steel, 1 3/8 in thick and R Value is 6.5 using Polystyrene.
My garage is insulated on the roof and dry wall, so the contractor said that I do not need a high R value.

Clopay got many good reviews in terms of quality even though it is at a higher price compared to Wayne Dalton.

My understanding is looking for the steel gauge. Clopay used Steel Gauge 27 for higher end model like 9200, 9130 and 4300 series.

The lower the number of Steel Gauge, the better it is. Correct?


Comments.

Wade Garrett September 14th 16 09:20 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On 9/13/16 12:57 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-4, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 9/12/16 5:32 PM,
wrote:
On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 10:44:04 PM UTC-4, Sleestak wrote:
replying to Stormin Mormon , Sleestak wrote:
cayoung61 wrote:

Nine years later, your comment is still relevant?


Yes, it is relevant. Why would it not be?

--

I am considering new garage door - considering both Clopay and Wayne Dalton.
The quoted installation price difference is quite large. Wayne Dalton (model 8300)is around $875 Canadian and Clopay (model 4053)is around $1200 Canadian.
After reviewing lots of reviews, it seems that Clopay is better than Wayne Dalton in terms of quality.

I would like to know what your comment are.

Thanks
Joseph


Have had two higher-end model Clopay steel two car garage doors for
years. No issues.

A few years ago, our driveway replacement contractor hit the door with
his Bobcat bucket. The Clopay regional sales office was very
helpful...quickly rounding up a skilled installer and supplying a
comparable model new door from their local warehouse which of course the
driveway guy paid for.

--
With all this €śgun control€ť talk, I havent heard one politician say how
they plan to take guns away from criminals and terrorists€” just from law
abiding citizens€¦


Good to know. I planned for the Premium Series. model 4050 or 4053.
The specification is 26 Gauge Steel, 1 3/8 in thick and R Value is 6.5 using Polystyrene.
My garage is insulated on the roof and dry wall, so the contractor said that I do not need a high R value.

Clopay got many good reviews in terms of quality even though it is at a higher price compared to Wayne Dalton.

My understanding is looking for the steel gauge. Clopay used Steel Gauge 27 for higher end model like 9200, 9130 and 4300 series.

The lower the number of Steel Gauge, the better it is. Correct?


Comments.


Yup, like wire gauge or shotgun gauge...the lower the number, the bigger
the diameter/thickness.

Curious though what your contractor said about not needing a well
insulated door because the roof and walls are. Sorta like saying one
bald tire is OK as long as the other three have good tread;-)

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dunpaintn April 13th 17 04:44 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
replying to Nope, dunpaintn wrote:
Superior? LOL Wayne Dalton makes the worst doors in the market. I've been
doing doors for decades and have seen it all. You can't tell me that a doo
r with PLASTIC drums, Internal springs (aka very low cycle) paper backing a
nd outright FALSE R value claims makes a good door.(Its an R 3 for 80% of t
he door, but in 2" per panel has a thick rib section with an R20 or somethi
ng like that, so they give it the "average" R value, even though the huge m
ajority of the door is an R3...) Not to mention the opener you reference i
s also the most unreliable on the market.


I have no doubt you work for Wayne Dalton since they are the ONLY people wh
o recommend that junk, anyone who does this for a living wouldn't never put
one in their own homes


I just got an estimate from a highly regarded local company and he recommended
Wayne Dalton and said NOT to go with Cloplay, I really don't know what to
think....I am also looking Amarr but I like the Cloplay's wood look better
than Amarr. : /



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Pete.b August 9th 18 10:44 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
replying to Art, Pete.b wrote:
You are calling Wayne Dalton superior?? Are you out of your mind? They make
the cheapest door in the industry. Why do you think all the builders go with
them, its not for their quality but for their cheapness but as always in
life, you get what you pay for.

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Pete.b August 9th 18 10:44 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
replying to Nope, Pete.b wrote:
Nope,

It does my heart good to see honest people like you €śsaying it like it is€ť

Kudos, what nope said the WD are CRAP!

I like the Clopay design, Im no expert but a lot of what they design in
their doors make sense to me.

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Pete.b August 9th 18 10:44 PM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
replying to josephip2010, Pete.b wrote:
Your post is old I sure hope you didnt go with WD they should be barred
from doing business, in my opinion

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[email protected] April 1st 19 12:43 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 9:53:23 PM UTC-5, wrote:
How do Amarr garage doors (aka ReliaBilt, sold by Lowes) compare with
Clopay (aka Holmes, sold by Home Depot)?
Amarr's website says they have "true 24 gauge" steel, but does that
apply to their ReliaBilt brand name? Is Clopay "nominal" or true 24
gauge?



Zyzyx September 18th 19 03:14 AM

Amarr vs Clopay garage door
 
replying to Nope, Zyzyx wrote:
100% agree they are some of the worst quality doors being produced and they
are built to be installed quickly which is more beneficial for the installer
than the homeowner as you trade quality for speed IMO. Profit before people is
the corporate way and this is a very large corporation whom owns Overhead Door
Corporation too. Comparing apples to apples the Waynee Daltonian door is
complete junk.

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