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Old July 5th 06, 02:29 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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Hello All,

Since we do not have the room in our attic [or our hallway] to mount a
whole house fan, we have decieded that we should go with one of these
fans. Since we are doing this ourselves and very new to this, we are
asking for your help, please! Today, we are about 104 degrees by our
outdoor thermometer.

Our home faces north. As a consequence the east side of the house gets
the sun first. We have two static attic vents, one at each end of the
home as well as several vents at the eaves. So here are my questions:

[here's the link]
http://www.bvc.com/products/cool/gablemount/cx1600.html

When we mount one of these attic fans should we place it on the east
end of the house, bringing in cool air from the west side of the house,
or should we mount the fan on the west side of the house, thereby
exhausting the hot air already in the attic?

By the way, they have a 2.1 amp PSC attic fan that really sounds great.
However, what does "PSC" mean.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Norm & Loretta

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Old July 5th 06, 02:42 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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A. Pismo Clam wrote:
Hello All,

Since we do not have the room in our attic [or our hallway] to mount a
whole house fan, we have decieded that we should go with one of these
fans. Since we are doing this ourselves and very new to this, we are
asking for your help, please! Today, we are about 104 degrees by our
outdoor thermometer.

Our home faces north. As a consequence the east side of the house gets
the sun first. We have two static attic vents, one at each end of the
home as well as several vents at the eaves. So here are my questions:

[here's the link]
http://www.bvc.com/products/cool/gablemount/cx1600.html

When we mount one of these attic fans should we place it on the east
end of the house, bringing in cool air from the west side of the
house, or should we mount the fan on the west side of the house,
thereby exhausting the hot air already in the attic?

By the way, they have a 2.1 amp PSC attic fan that really sounds
great. However, what does "PSC" mean.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Norm & Loretta


Do you want to use this as a whole house fan or just an attic fan to try
and reduce the heat in an unoccupied attic?

If the first, you have the wrong fan and it will do very little. If the
second I suggest that proper passive (no fans) venting is usually far better
as there is little difference in real results of a active or passive system,
assuming they were both well designed and the passive is maintenance free,
energy free and silent.


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Joseph Meehan

Dia duit


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Old July 5th 06, 03:03 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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A. Pismo Clam wrote:

Hello All,

Since we do not have the room in our attic [or our hallway] to mount a
whole house fan, we have decieded that we should go with one of these
fans. Since we are doing this ourselves and very new to this, we are
asking for your help, please! Today, we are about 104 degrees by our
outdoor thermometer.

Our home faces north. As a consequence the east side of the house gets
the sun first. We have two static attic vents, one at each end of the
home as well as several vents at the eaves. So here are my questions:

[here's the link]
http://www.bvc.com/products/cool/gablemount/cx1600.html

When we mount one of these attic fans should we place it on the east
end of the house, bringing in cool air from the west side of the house,
or should we mount the fan on the west side of the house, thereby
exhausting the hot air already in the attic?

By the way, they have a 2.1 amp PSC attic fan that really sounds great.
However, what does "PSC" mean.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Norm & Loretta


A gable mount fan can do a lot to reduce attic temps where sun exposure
is a big problem. That reduces the heat transmission into the interior.

While static venting is great, you probably don't have the luxury
right now to experiment with it.

Personally, I would mount it to exhaust the hot air.
Be sure that all inlets are screened as well as the gable outlet
to keep bugs out.

PSC fan is "permanent split capacitor". Refers to the
type of motor. They run more efficiently, esp when run at
reduced speeds.

You'll need to pick the time you work up in the attic
carefully; if hot up there you put yourself at risk working.

Jim
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Old July 5th 06, 04:00 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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A gable mount fan can do a lot to reduce attic temps where sun exposure
is a big problem. That reduces the heat transmission into the interior.

While static venting is great, you probably don't have the luxury
right now to experiment with it.

Personally, I would mount it to exhaust the hot air.
Be sure that all inlets are screened as well as the gable outlet
to keep bugs out.

PSC fan is "permanent split capacitor". Refers to the
type of motor. They run more efficiently, esp when run at
reduced speeds.

You'll need to pick the time you work up in the attic
carefully; if hot up there you put yourself at risk working.

Jim


Hi Joe and Jim,

Thanks very much for the prompt reply. In the summer, the sun comes up
at 6 AM and sets at 8PM; that's 14 hours of no-shade exposure to the
concrete tile on the roof.

Yes! We are attempting to keep the attic as cool as we can, Joe.

Yes Jim, I think that we will just have to wait until November to
complete this project. Our local DYI store is offering some of these
attic fans now and from what you have said, the "PSC", 14" fan sounds
like the one we'll purchase.

Again, thanks for all of your help with this, guys!

Norman

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Old July 5th 06, 04:35 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 02:03:13 GMT, Speedy Jim wrote:


You'll need to pick the time you work up in the attic
carefully; if hot up there you put yourself at risk working.


I do stuff like this at dawn. If I were sure I wouldn't fall through
the "floor", I might start at 2 or 3 in the morning, depending on how
long I thought the job would take.

People will probabl say bad things about this, but in this case, I
would put a heavy duty plug on the end of the cable that comes with
the fan, or something so it would plug into a heavy duty extension
cord no longer than necessary, put in the extra wood and four screws
or whatever the instructions say, then get the heck out of the attic
and plug it in to an outlet on the floor below. If so, then dawn
would be early enough to start.

Then the fan will keep it not so hot as before, and when there was a
cool day, I'd go up and finish it right.

Jim


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Old July 5th 06, 12:36 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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A. Pismo Clam wrote:

Yes! We are attempting to keep the attic as cool as we can, Joe.


Do you want to keep the attic cool because you want the attic cool, or
because you want to protect the roof or because you want to keep the living
areas below the attic cool?

For two of the four, passive ventilation along with good insulation
works very well. With proper insulation between the attic and living area,
there is very little to gain by reducing the attic temperature using power
vents and you add operating cost, vibration and maintenance.


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Joseph Meehan

Dia duit


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Old July 5th 06, 01:33 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Joseph Meehan wrote:
A. Pismo Clam wrote:
Yes! We are attempting to keep the attic as cool as we can, Joe.


Do you want to keep the attic cool because you want the attic cool, or
because you want to protect the roof or because you want to keep the living
areas below the attic cool?

For two of the four, passive ventilation along with good insulation
works very well. With proper insulation between the attic and living area,
there is very little to gain by reducing the attic temperature using power
vents and you add operating cost, vibration and maintenance.



Although your suggestion there is little benefit to power venting an
attic if the purpose is simply to cool it, many homes have the furnace
and air handler installed in the attic. I have such a home, and the
impact of keeping the attic temperature lower so as to minimize the
impact on the cooling coil can be dramatic. My home has gable ends with
a power vent in two gables. There is also another gable for air intake
along with several eave vents.

On one summer day I wondered what effect the power vents had on the
attic temperature and placed a remote thermometer in the attic so as to
observe it with the vents on and off. The temperature was easily
lowered in excess of twenty degrees when the vents were turned on. I
say easily, because I watched the temperature for only about 30 minutes.

Now twenty degrees might not seem like much, but keep in mind the sheet
metal of the furnace/air handler (and the cooling coil inside) along
with the metal ductwork are fighting the effort to cool the air inside
them. I just thought I would share this fact in case the OP had a
similar situation.
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Old July 5th 06, 05:47 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Ken wrote:


Although your suggestion there is little benefit to power venting an
attic if the purpose is simply to cool it, many homes have the furnace
and air handler installed in the attic. I have such a home, and the
impact of keeping the attic temperature lower so as to minimize the
impact on the cooling coil can be dramatic. My home has gable ends
with a power vent in two gables. There is also another gable for air
intake along with several eave vents.


That is why I tried to indicate the differences between cooling the
attic and the reason to do so. Your example is one of several very good
reasons to want to cool the attic itself. Thanks for helping clarify the
subject.


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Old July 7th 06, 05:44 AM posted to alt.home.repair
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"Joseph Meehan" wrote in
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A. Pismo Clam wrote:
Hello All,

Since we do not have the room in our attic [or our hallway] to mount
a whole house fan, we have decieded that we should go with one of
these fans. Since we are doing this ourselves and very new to this,
we are asking for your help, please! Today, we are about 104 degrees
by our outdoor thermometer.

Our home faces north. As a consequence the east side of the house
gets the sun first. We have two static attic vents, one at each end
of the home as well as several vents at the eaves. So here are my
questions:

[here's the link]
http://www.bvc.com/products/cool/gablemount/cx1600.html

When we mount one of these attic fans should we place it on the east
end of the house, bringing in cool air from the west side of the
house, or should we mount the fan on the west side of the house,
thereby exhausting the hot air already in the attic?

By the way, they have a 2.1 amp PSC attic fan that really sounds
great. However, what does "PSC" mean.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond!

Norm & Loretta


Do you want to use this as a whole house fan or just an attic fan
to try
and reduce the heat in an unoccupied attic?

If the first, you have the wrong fan and it will do very little.
If the
second I suggest that proper passive (no fans) venting is usually far
better as there is little difference in real results of a active or
passive system, assuming they were both well designed and the passive
is maintenance free, energy free and silent.


Hey Joseph:

I don't understand how a fan would not be better. Moving 1600 cfm of
super heated air from an attic has got to help. I'll agree it isn't going
to drop the indoor temp 5 deg but moving 1600 (or even 1200 accounting
for inefficiencies) has got to be a good thing for at least the shingles.
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Old July 7th 06, 12:32 PM posted to alt.home.repair
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Speedy Jim wrote:

A gable mount fan can do a lot to reduce attic temps where sun exposure
is a big problem. That reduces the heat transmission into the interior.

While static venting is great, you probably don't have the luxury
right now to experiment with it.


I don't see how choosing the static route is an experiment, vs
installing a fan. The basics of static venting are well understood.

And whether they have a gable mounted fan or static venting, half of
the project is similar. They need sufficient air intake, preferably
at the soffits. From the description given, it;s not clear that this
exists. In fact, with a powerful fan, they would need even more
intake venting, making that project more work.

Also, I think adding a ridge vent in most cases is no harder and
perhaps easier than adding a gable vent.





Personally, I would mount it to exhaust the hot air.
Be sure that all inlets are screened as well as the gable outlet
to keep bugs out.

PSC fan is "permanent split capacitor". Refers to the
type of motor. They run more efficiently, esp when run at
reduced speeds.

You'll need to pick the time you work up in the attic
carefully; if hot up there you put yourself at risk working.

Jim


 




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