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Trench digging suggestions
My next door neighbor and I want to put in some 3 or 4 inch PVC pipe
into the ground to carry away rainwater from the gutters away from the back of the property to the front lawn where it can find it's way to the driveway & street sewers. It's about 100 foot length and for most of it the pipe woud be just under the surface. for the last 30 feet or so the ground rises so that would require deeper digging. I don't think the depth would get over a foot at the steepest part of the lawn. We'd then angle the pipe downhill until it emerged from the ground again (my street is sloped) Would the trencher Home Depot rents be sufficient for this - anybody have experience with it or are there other types of trenchers to rent from other stores that would be better suited. I could always go the shovel & pick route or try to hire someone, but am interested in anybody's personal experience and/or knowledge. thanks |
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wrote: My next door neighbor and I want to put in some 3 or 4 inch PVC pipe into the ground to carry away rainwater from the gutters away from the back of the property to the front lawn where it can find it's way to the driveway & street sewers. It's about 100 foot length and for most of it the pipe woud be just under the surface. for the last 30 feet or so the ground rises so that would require deeper digging. I don't think the depth would get over a foot at the steepest part of the lawn. We'd then angle the pipe downhill until it emerged from the ground again (my street is sloped) Would the trencher Home Depot rents be sufficient for this - anybody have experience with it or are there other types of trenchers to rent from other stores that would be better suited. I could always go the shovel & pick route or try to hire someone, but am interested in anybody's personal experience and/or knowledge. thanks I did 20' at three different downspouts, 60' total in an afternoon with a shovel. Use a flat landscaping shovel to cut away the grass in a straight line and set to the side. Throw the dirt neatly to the other side. Lay in your pipe. Set the sod on top. Rake the dirt over top piled high so when it rains and everything settles it will fill in the gaps. Two months later the only way you can tell I did anything is by the three green discs in the yard. A trencher is going to shred the grass and leave you nothing to cover up the trench after you lay the pipe. You will need a good size trencher to make a ditch wide enough for 4" pipe. Even though I hate to dig this is one job probably best done by hand. |
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Just a suggestion - I had a couple of guys do the same thing in my yard -
they tied the downspouts into the drain, and had a few additional surface drains to carry the rainwater away. In my city, there are some fairly stringent code considerations as to HOW the end of the discharge pipe has to exit onto the street, HOW to tunnel under the sidewalk, etc.. - they don't like ya just dumping drain water out onto the sidewalk, or undermining the sidewalk and then just breaking up the curb and doing a lousy patch job. Obviously getting the right slope of the pipe over the entire length is important or it won't drain, but only one of the guys that came out to estimate the job actually did anything more than just eyeball it - in my yard there wasn't a lot of drop from the front to the back after sinking the beginning of the pipe in the back yard - the slope was critical - my guy got it right, but I can see how it'd be a nightmare if ya didn't know what you're doing. Sometimes, the slope of the ground plays visual tricks on ya. .. wrote in message oups.com... My next door neighbor and I want to put in some 3 or 4 inch PVC pipe into the ground to carry away rainwater from the gutters away from the back of the property to the front lawn where it can find it's way to the driveway & street sewers. It's about 100 foot length and for most of it the pipe woud be just under the surface. for the last 30 feet or so the ground rises so that would require deeper digging. I don't think the depth would get over a foot at the steepest part of the lawn. We'd then angle the pipe downhill until it emerged from the ground again (my street is sloped) Would the trencher Home Depot rents be sufficient for this - anybody have experience with it or are there other types of trenchers to rent from other stores that would be better suited. I could always go the shovel & pick route or try to hire someone, but am interested in anybody's personal experience and/or knowledge. thanks |
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wrote in message oups.com... My next door neighbor and I want to put in some 3 or 4 inch PVC pipe into the ground to carry away rainwater from the gutters away from the back of the property to the front lawn where it can find it's way to the driveway & street sewers. If by hand, be sure to use a 'sharpshooter' shovel- long skinny blade, about 4 inches wide at the tip. If not rocky soil or wet gumbo, goes pretty fast. lee h |
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at least 1/2 bubble from level for entire length. lay a tarp on grass
then shovel dirt onto tarp, makes for way easier restoration. dont look at it as a job, think of it as excellent exercise |
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BTW I get plenty of exercise already & the kids ain't old enough to help out w/o getting in the way... so I was hoping to avoid an 'extra workout' ...lol... thanks for the suggestions |
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On 20 Jun 2006 12:16:22 -0700, "
wrote: at least 1/2 bubble from level for entire length. lay a tarp on grass then shovel dirt onto tarp, makes for way easier restoration. dont look at it as a job, think of it as excellent exercise No, no, no. One should never do yardwork or any work as excercise. Home is for eating and watching tv. One should join a gym for exercise. That way other people make money from it. |
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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:25:59 -0400, Paul Franklin
wrote: Regardless of your choice, call the toll free "Before you dig" number to get any buried utility lines marked. There is no charge. Utilities get really bent out of shape when you cut one of their lines or pipes. They are supposed to be deeper, but %$&#* happens. I talked to a guy who contracts for Miss Utility, as they call it in maryland. And his job is to mark utility lines. (Here, probably everywhere, they use different colors for differnt thigns.) And he said that if you cut a line or pipe, they charge thousands to put it back together. He said even if it only takes a ;little time to splice in a short piece of wire at each end of it, they charge over a thousand. |
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mm wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:25:59 -0400, Paul Franklin wrote: Regardless of your choice, call the toll free "Before you dig" number to get any buried utility lines marked. There is no charge. Utilities get really bent out of shape when you cut one of their lines or pipes. They are supposed to be deeper, but %$&#* happens. I talked to a guy who contracts for Miss Utility, as they call it in maryland. And his job is to mark utility lines. (Here, probably everywhere, they use different colors for differnt thigns.) And he said that if you cut a line or pipe, they charge thousands to put it back together. He said even if it only takes a ;little time to splice in a short piece of wire at each end of it, they charge over a thousand. charging a lot discourages idiots, the word gets around and people are more careful. Close by Verizon replacing a pole accidently cut a 20,000 pair cable phones in area were out for 2 days. wonder if they charge themselves? |
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