has anyone purchased a Ventless Combo Washer Dryer?

at least LG (Tromm) and Asko makes them, they are claimed to save electric use also
due to the fact they are ventless (thus no removal of indoor air where the HVAC system
has to work harder)

how well do they compare with traditional side-by-side separate washer/dryer units?

Tanya Sörensen wrote:
has anyone purchased a Ventless Combo Washer Dryer?

at least LG (Tromm) and Asko makes them, they are claimed to save electric use also
due to the fact they are ventless (thus no removal of indoor air where the HVAC system
has to work harder)

how well do they compare with traditional side-by-side separate washer/dryer units?

Daughter has used Miel unit for several years and thinks it's very
good.
TB

"Tanya Sörensen" wrote in message
...
has anyone purchased a Ventless Combo Washer Dryer?

at least LG (Tromm) and Asko makes them, they are claimed to save electric
use also
due to the fact they are ventless (thus no removal of indoor air where the
HVAC system
has to work harder)

how well do they compare with traditional side-by-side separate
washer/dryer units?


Ours uses cold water to remove the heat / vapour from the dryer. Works well
but I don't know how much extra water it uses.
Pete.

I am looking for reviews, if this is the kind you just put the clothes
in ONCE and they wash and dry automatically?

I was told their cycle time is near 2 hours but dont know if thats
true...

I think machines requiring switching stuff will be obsoilete in the
future

Tanya Sörensen wrote:

has anyone purchased a Ventless Combo Washer Dryer?

I haven't but would be very interested in how well they
work

In article , says...
has anyone purchased a Ventless Combo Washer Dryer?

at least LG (Tromm) and Asko makes them, they are claimed to save electric use also
due to the fact they are ventless (thus no removal of indoor air where the HVAC system
has to work harder)

how well do they compare with traditional side-by-side separate washer/dryer units?

We have the LG Tromm and love it.

Yes, full wash-and-dry cycle can be 2+ hours, but the convenience is
worth it. Throw in a full load of dirty clothes, turn it on, go to
work, and come home to clean, dry clothes, no loading wet clothes into
the dryer.

Energy efficiency is excellent, does a good job on permanent-press, runs
quiet enough that I'll also put in a load of laundry before bed at night
and have it ready in the morning.

Part of the energy efficiency is the high-speed spin, don't remember how
many thousands of RPM at the top speed, so clothes start the dry cycle a
lot dryer than in a conventional machine.

My other favorite feature is the 'sanitary' cycle, rather than just
using hot tap water, it starts with hot tap water and heats it further,
not quite boiling but something around 190F. Does a great job on towels
and bedding, and it's hot enough it took red candle wax out of a
cotton/poly shirt that I thought one of my sons had ruined.

One other handy feature, it runs off a standard 120v/15A outlet, no need
for a highger-capacity dryer circuit.

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wrote:

Tanya Sörensen wrote:

has anyone purchased a Ventless Combo Washer Dryer?

I haven't but would be very interested in how well they work

The drying takes forever in mine but it's ancient ( purchased 1988 ).

Graham

Joshua Putnam wrote:

We have the LG Tromm and love it.

How come American makers haven't made something like
this yet?

wrote:
Joshua Putnam wrote:


We have the LG Tromm and love it.

How come American makers haven't made something like
this yet?

They have.

Duane

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"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:

They have.

who?

"Tanya Sörensen" wrote in message
...
has anyone purchased a Ventless Combo Washer Dryer?

at least LG (Tromm) and Asko makes them, they are claimed to save
electric use also due to the fact they are ventless (thus no removal of
indoor air where the HVAC system has to work harder)

how well do they compare with traditional side-by-side separate
washer/dryer units?


Yes. When we moved in to our mobile home I had to give up my lovely new
Maytag washer and dryer because they took
too much room. So we got the LG ventless washer/dryer combo. It is the
largest size. It is excellent! I love it!

If I had to choose I would stay with the washer/dryer combo. There is
only one drawback in my view. I can't dry while I wash.

But then, I'm using the clothes line a lot now the weather is warmer.

MoM

wrote:
"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:
wrote:

How come American makers haven't made
something like this yet?

They have.

who?

Thor for one among many others. See:
http://www.thorappliances.com

Why instantly assume that the Americans wouldn't
know how to make Ventless Dryers?

Duane

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Duane C. Johnson wrote:

http://www.thorappliances.com

Why instantly assume that the Americans wouldn't
know how to make Ventless Dryers?

What I haven't seen yet is dryers that use less energy than
what is required to evaporate the water in the clothes...
Some ventless dryers use more than the vented versions.

Nick

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:16:48 -0500, "Duane C. Johnson"
wrote:

wrote:
"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:
wrote:

How come American makers haven't made
something like this yet?

They have.

who?

Thor for one among many others. See:
http://www.thorappliances.com

Why instantly assume that the Americans wouldn't
know how to make Ventless Dryers?

Duane

Are you sure that Thor combo washer-dryer is made in the USA?
It looks very similar in styling and capacity to the Italian made
Splendide units.

Thor may have made products once in the USA but I don't think they do
so now.

Doug

Years ago I was asked marketing questions about washers and dryers, and
mareked the #1 need a single unit that both washes and drys.

Perhaps they havent bcaught on here because manufactuers think it will
cut into market selling 1/2 as many units?

"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:

Why instantly assume that the Americans wouldn't
know how to make Ventless Dryers?

I guess cause I've never seen an American one setting
at Lowe's or HD

"MoM" wrote:

If I had to choose I would stay with the washer/dryer combo. There is
only one drawback in my view. I can't dry while I wash.

You sure are making a good argument for such a unit

Got me to thinking abt looking into one

I live alone and in a small apartment and space is at a
premium

wrote:
Joshua Putnam wrote:


We have the LG Tromm and love it.


How come American makers haven't made something like
this yet?
GE {IIRC} made one in 1960 or so. had it in the house as a kid, along
with the sideways ceiling mount fridge. never remember the washer
working, threw it out and the space became the dog food cubby. fridge
died after 17 years, old man fixed it to sell the house[rather than
remodel the kitchen]

On 14 Jun 2006 03:20:07 -0700, "
wrote:

Years ago I was asked marketing questions about washers and dryers, and
mareked the #1 need a single unit that both washes and drys.

Perhaps they havent bcaught on here because manufactuers think it will
cut into market selling 1/2 as many units?

More likely Americans aren't willing to pay for the complexity and
spend twice as long doing laundry. It is different for RV's or small
apartments, but most houses have space for separate units.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Years ago I was asked marketing questions about washers and dryers, and
mareked the #1 need a single unit that both washes and drys.

Perhaps they havent bcaught on here because manufactuers think it will
cut into market selling 1/2 as many units?


Bendix was making all in one washers with gas dryers 40 years ago, and GE
made washer/electric dryer combos back then too. As far as ventless, for an
electric dryer all you need is a lint trap. The moisture added inside will
be there no mater who makes it. Years ago they sold a sock like bag to trap
lint, now everything is plastic.

MoM wrote:
too much room. So we got the LG ventless washer/dryer combo. It is
the largest size. It is excellent! I love it!

would you please post the specific model number ?
was there any other contender or other LG model that you chose not to buy
for some reason (other than size) ?

In article , chill000
@centurytel.net says...

More likely Americans aren't willing to pay for the complexity and
spend twice as long doing laundry.

One of the things I love about the combined unit is how much *less* time
I spend doing laundry. Throw in a load at night, it's dry in the
morning. Throw in a load before work, it's dry when I get home. Throw
in a load before dinner, it's dry before bedtime. Notice *zero* time
spend taking wet clothes out of the washer and putting them into the
dryer. And zero chance of forgetting to take wet clothes out of the
washer to dry them until they've been sitting there wet all day.

--
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they use little water, saves on water sewer and heating water, spin
speed over a 1000 RPM so clothes nearly dry at start of drying cycle.
pricey unit but very convenient.

I am again thinking of putting one upstairs for everday use, leave old
machines in basement for volume laundr days, like stripping beds

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:08:42 -0700, Joshua Putnam
wrote:

One of the things I love about the combined unit is how much *less* time
I spend doing laundry. Throw in a load at night, it's dry in the
morning. Throw in a load before work, it's dry when I get home. Throw
in a load before dinner, it's dry before bedtime. Notice *zero* time
spend taking wet clothes out of the washer and putting them into the
dryer. And zero chance of forgetting to take wet clothes out of the
washer to dry them until they've been sitting there wet all day.

Many people want to be able to do two loads at once so they can finish
all the laundry in an evening. I'd rather forget about the dryer
altogether, the sun and wind do a fine job, why should I burn coal
instead?

"Duane C. Johnson" wrote in message
.. .
wrote:
"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:
wrote:

How come American makers haven't made
something like this yet?

They have.

who?

Thor for one among many others. See:
http://www.thorappliances.com

Why instantly assume that the Americans wouldn't
know how to make Ventless Dryers?

Duane

I just looked at the Thor. It is half the size of my LG. Mind you mine
was $600 can more, but It does a full comforter.


MoM

wrote in message
...
"MoM" wrote:

If I had to choose I would stay with the washer/dryer combo. There is
only one drawback in my view. I can't dry while I wash.

You sure are making a good argument for such a unit

Got me to thinking abt looking into one

I live alone and in a small apartment and space is at a
premium

That's the reason I opted for it. It cost double the price or more of a
standard set of washer dryer but it fits my needs. And they come in 2
sizes.

Mobile homes do NOT a lot of spare room have as Yoda would say.

MoM

"PoP" wrote in message
...
MoM wrote:
too much room. So we got the LG ventless washer/dryer combo. It is
the largest size. It is excellent! I love it!

would you please post the specific model number ?
was there any other contender or other LG model that you chose not to
buy for some reason (other than size) ?


It's an LG WM3632HW

I never considered anything else. I got this model on sale at a well
known up scale appliance dealer I had used in the past
and it was what i was looking for. I could have bought the smaller one
but I wanted the full size model.

MoM

Hi MoM;

MoM wrote:

"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:
wrote:
"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:

wrote:

How come American makers haven't made
something like this yet?

They have.

who?

Thor for one among many others. See:
http://www.thorappliances.com

Why instantly assume that the Americans wouldn't
know how to make Ventless Dryers?

Duane

I just looked at the Thor.
It is half the size of my LG. Mind you mine
was $600 can more, but It does a full comforter.

That wasn't the point.
The guy was trashing the US by saying we had
no ventless dryers.

I simply showed he was wrong by posting the
first one I found on Google.

The point is the Thor is Ventless and made in USA.

Is the LG made in the US?

MoM

Duane

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"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:

The guy was trashing the US by saying we had
no ventless dryers.

No...I wasn't "trashing" the US

By wife

" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hmmm...I'd like to know how Chris is finishing all the laundry in an
evening while also depending on sun and wind to dry all the
clothes....

Jo Ann

MoM wrote:
"Duane C. Johnson" wrote in message
.. .
wrote:
"Duane C. Johnson" wrote:
wrote:

How come American makers haven't made
something like this yet?

They have.

who?

Thor for one among many others. See:
http://www.thorappliances.com

Why instantly assume that the Americans wouldn't
know how to make Ventless Dryers?

Duane

I just looked at the Thor. It is half the size of my LG. Mind you
mine
was $600 can more, but It does a full comforter.


MoM

On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:40:53 -0700, "Big Al" wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
Years ago I was asked marketing questions about washers and dryers, and
mareked the #1 need a single unit that both washes and drys.

Perhaps they havent bcaught on here because manufactuers think it will
cut into market selling 1/2 as many units?


Bendix was making all in one washers with gas dryers 40 years ago, and GE
made washer/electric dryer combos back then too. As far as ventless, for an
electric dryer all you need is a lint trap. The moisture added inside will
be there no mater who makes it. Years ago they sold a sock like bag to trap
lint, now everything is plastic.



No, the moisture won't be there, no matter who makes it.

Many combo units, such as the Splendide, vent the dryer cycle air
exhaust thru a condensation system that takes most of the water out of
the air and flushes it down the drain.

Doug

The other writers are correct that there were American-made combos in
the past. I think that it has always been a challenge to mix the the
two functions, keeping the water in all the right places during wash,
but free to move air during dry.

Negatives to look at concerning the new combos are higher initial cost,
longer laundry processing times, a more complicated repair profile over
the life of the machine, and a less extensive repair network. That
last one is the clincher. Anytime you own a highly exotic piece of
machinery, you are limiting your repair options somewhat to fewer
technicians who have had more specialized training and have access to
proprietary information. Even with a maintenance agreement, your costs
for this or paying for repairs individually is going to raise your
overall operating expense to a level far beyond simpler machines.

Here is a different way to look at it: If you buy a new Toyota Prius,
you aren't going to be able to take it to your neighborhood garage
because the repair methods and proprietary information has not filtered
down to the average mechanic yet. You will be pretty much locked into
taking it to the dealership for your entire time of ownership of the
vehicle. Pity the consumer that buys one of these out of warranty; he
is asking for an empty wallet.

wrote:

and a less extensive repair network. That
last one is the clincher. Anytime you own a highly exotic piece of
machinery, you are limiting your repair options somewhat to fewer
technicians who have had more specialized training and have access to
proprietary information.

Agree on this one big time

Exotic is not always better

I'm not sold of front loaders anyway. I've looked at
top loader fisher paykel and it has great design (fewer
parts)

wrote:
If you buy a new Toyota Prius,
you aren't going to be able to take it to your neighborhood garage
because the repair methods and proprietary information has not filtered
down to the average mechanic yet. You will be pretty much locked into
taking it to the dealership for your entire time of ownership of the
vehicle.

When I was looking into buying a Prius, I found this to be true. (I
was questioning my local mechanic about repair costs.) This
prevented me from buying one. It was unclear to me, that I'd really
be saving money by purchasing a hybrid. Of course this is aside of
the clean air/not using oil issues.

Why doesn't the government do something about this? They want us to
buy them to save oil but then pay through the nose for repairs. I
guess Toyota (or any other corporation) making money is more
important than not using oil.

Bonnie

The payback time for saving money on gas with a prius is never

Thanks to the initial high cost and battery replacement issues plus
high cost of repairs.

sadly government is ONLY interested in keeping their big money
supporters happy, and big oil is high on that list.

we should have gone to alternate energys in 1972 or certinally since
then

Joshua Putnam wrote:

We have the LG Tromm and love it.

I'm curios where you bough the above

wrote:

Buy simpler, and buy what you need to meet

So what would YOU buy?