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Problem with Schlage door lock
Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on
my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
Spray the heck out of it with silicone spray while turning the knob back and
forth. "Nosmo King" wrote in message ... Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
"Nosmo King" wrote in message ... Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. Same problem on more than one door, after they've both worked properly in the past? |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
Nosmo King wrote:
Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. Not sure about that particular lockset but the spring that retracts the latch maybe in the handle/lever part of the lockset. You might do a google search for that lockset and or manufacture and see what comes up. RV -- "you can lead them to LINUX but you can't make them THINK" |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
I've found a door or 2 in my time where the striker plate (in the wall)
for some reason 'gripped' the spring loaded bolt, so instead of shoving the bolt into the door, it just 'stuck'. Drove me nuts because the bolt would push in easy by hand, but wouldn't retract when the door was closed. Make sure the striker plate has a gentle curve that will first touch the bolt on the curved/sloped/slanted portion of the bolt. That, and a little lube, set mine straight. Dave |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
"Nosmo King" wrote in message ... Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Wax the bolt and striker plate where they touch in operation. Lubricate the lock internals. Bob |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:
Same problem on more than one door, after they've both worked properly in the past? Yes. The first one started it about a year ago (locks are about 5 years old). It was on a door in the garage that doesn't get used much, so I never did anything about it. The second door just started acting this way this week. The problem is definitely with the latch part, as you can not manually push it in. I'll try dis-assembling the locks and see if the silicon spray helps. |
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Nosmo King wrote:
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Same problem on more than one door, after they've both worked properly in the past? Yes. The first one started it about a year ago (locks are about 5 years old). It was on a door in the garage that doesn't get used much, so I never did anything about it. The second door just started acting this way this week. The problem is definitely with the latch part, as you can not manually push it in. I'll try dis-assembling the locks and see if the silicon spray helps. If with the door open you can't push the latch in the problem is probably the half round deadlocking pin on the back of the latch is not comming fully out. If the deadlatch pin is far enough in the latch has to be retracted with the knob - prevents case-knifing. If the deadlatch pin is out and the latch can't be retracted the problem should be in the latch - I would consider buying a new latch only - probably from a locksmith. bud-- |
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I use WD-40 outside a lot, but for things in the house, I find that silicone
doesn't tend to stain as much. It also seems to stick to metal better, and I like it for car door locks. "mm" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:42:53 GMT, (Nosmo King) wrote: In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote: Same problem on more than one door, after they've both worked properly in the past? Yes. The first one started it about a year ago (locks are about 5 years old). It was on a door in the garage that doesn't get used much, so I never did anything about it. The second door just started acting this way this week. The problem is definitely with the latch part, as you can not manually push it in. I'll try dis-assembling the locks and see if the silicon spray helps. I haven't tried silicone spray for these things. I use WD-40 with very good results, and haven't needed to take things apart. Not that I've had your exact problem. Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let me know if you have posted also. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
Just curious, but is this the commercial grade lockset which costs about
$200.00 which you need to buy from a locksmith or is this the consumer grade lockset sold at home improvement stores? FYI - I bought a Schlage commercial grade lockset about 6 years ago and have not had any problems. I bought this because I have seen these on schools, businesses, and government buildings and they seem to last forever. The consumer locksets sold at hardware and home improvement stores have not lasted very long before they have problems (in my experience). |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
In article , "Bill" wrote:
Just curious, but is this the commercial grade lockset which costs about $200.00 which you need to buy from a locksmith or is this the consumer grade lockset sold at home improvement stores? It looks like the builder used the standard consumer grade sets. I went to HD to buy a replacement latch, and they didn't carry them. The guy there said the Schlage locksets have a lifetime warranty, and should be replaced at no charge. I looked on their web site, and it says the lifetime warranty is valid for "the original user". As the second owner of a five year old house, I am disappointed in this. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
"Nosmo King" wrote in message
It looks like the builder used the standard consumer grade sets.... Check out the commercial grade Schlage locksets at schools/businesses. These are very well built and quite a difference. I figure I'll spend $200 once and have it last rather than spending $40 or whatever every 5 years, then needing to change keys, etc. Actually cheaper in long run if you live there a long time. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
It looks like the builder used the standard consumer grade sets. I went to HD to buy a replacement latch, and they didn't carry them. The guy there said the Schlage locksets have a lifetime warranty, and should be replaced at no charge. I looked on their web site, and it says the lifetime warranty is valid for "the original user". As the second owner of a five year old house, I am disappointed in this. Hell of a lifetime. The cheapest fix may still be replacing the latch only. Locksmiths may have them. Also possible that the latch from a higher grade Schlage would work (and last longer). Might be a good new question for alt.locksmith. bud-- |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
Bill wrote:
"Nosmo King" wrote in message It looks like the builder used the standard consumer grade sets.... Check out the commercial grade Schlage locksets at schools/businesses. These are very well built and quite a difference. I figure I'll spend $200 once and have it last rather than spending $40 or whatever every 5 years, then needing to change keys, etc. Actually cheaper in long run if you live there a long time. Good grief what do you do to wear out a lock in 5 years? Mine are not expensive and have lasted for almost 30 years. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
Put two drops of 10W30 motor oil on the latch where it enters the side of
the door. If that doesn't work, replace the latch. If that doesn't work, call your local locksmith. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Nosmo King" wrote in message ... Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. |
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"Nosmo King" wrote in message ... In article , "Bill" wrote: Just curious, but is this the commercial grade lockset which costs about $200.00 which you need to buy from a locksmith or is this the consumer grade lockset sold at home improvement stores? It looks like the builder used the standard consumer grade sets. I went to HD to buy a replacement latch, and they didn't carry them. The guy there said the Schlage locksets have a lifetime warranty, and should be replaced at no charge. I looked on their web site, and it says the lifetime warranty is valid for "the original user". As the second owner of a five year old house, I am disappointed in this. I know it may require a note from the Vatican and an act of congress, but have you called the manufacturer about this? The "original owner" routine is based on absolutely NO logic known to man. You should be able to get around it if you act indignant on the phone. The phone is the thing you talk into. You may have one at home, or in your office. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
replying to Nosmo King, Will wrote:
Nosmo_King58_ wrote: Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. I have a Schlage lockset which developed the same problem. Have to turn the handle to get the latch to retract when I shut the door. Very annoying. I have read all the replies here and it looks like the most sensible thing for me to do is just replace the lockset. I have tried taking it apart and see nothing wrong, spraying WD40 and a silicone lube everywhere with no change,. It seems to me that the problem may lie in the lock mechanism (the little "key" you turn to lock the door). Anyway, guess I'll just replace it but it is nice to see I am not the only one with the door problem. -- |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
"Will" wrote in message roups.com... replying to Nosmo King, Will wrote: Nosmo_King58_ wrote: Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. I have a Schlage lockset which developed the same problem. Have to turn the handle to get the latch to retract when I shut the door. Very annoying. I have read all the replies here and it looks like the most sensible thing for me to do is just replace the lockset. I have tried taking it apart and see nothing wrong, spraying WD40 and a silicone lube everywhere with no change,. It seems to me that the problem may lie in the lock mechanism (the little "key" you turn to lock the door). Anyway, guess I'll just replace it but it is nice to see I am not the only one with the door problem. Contact Schlage they will likly replace the entire lock assembly. The did for us with the same problem. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
replying to George E. Cawthon, Will wrote:
GeorgeC-Boise wrote: Good grief what do you do to wear out a lock in 5 years? Mine are not expensive and have lasted for almost 30 years. The lock is not worn out, it is defective. I have one that is the same way. -- |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
replying to Nosmo King, Will wrote:
Nosmo_King58_ wrote: Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. I have earlier shared that I had the same problem with a Schlage lockset. Today, I got the latch replacement itself at the Big Box Store that begins with L (the Big Box store that begins with H did not have it) and have it installed and it is working fine. It is the Schlage product and not some knock-off brand. Cost was $10 and this means I did not have to have a new key!!! I know the orginal post was a almost 10 years ago, but I came to this site recently so perhaps my post will save someone a lot of trouble. -- |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 23:44:01 +0000, Will
wrote: replying to Nosmo King, Will wrote: Nosmo_King58_ wrote: Hi. I have recently developed a problem with a couple of Schlage locksets on my external doors. The spring loaded latch will not automatically retract when the door is being closed. I have taken it apart and do not see anything obviously wrong. My door is equipped with a separate double cylinder deadbolt and the residential knob/lever set. The round keyed knob is on the outside, and the lever handle is on the inside. The lever handle is not keyed, but has the small piece you turn to lock/unlock the door. When you try to close the door, the latch piece does not retract and the door will not close. You have to turn the knob/lever to get the latch to retract, in order to close the door. Any suggestions for troubleshooting ? Thanks. I have earlier shared that I had the same problem with a Schlage lockset. Today, I got the latch replacement itself at the Big Box Store that begins with L (the Big Box store that begins with H did not have it) and have it installed and it is working fine. It is the Schlage product and not some knock-off brand. Cost was $10 and this means I did not have to have a new key!!! I know the orginal post was a almost 10 years ago, but I came to this site recently so perhaps my post will save someone a lot of trouble. Had the same thing happen withthe Schlage on the side door about 6 months ago. As you nted HD didn't have the Latch assembly but the local Ace Hardware did. It must be fairly common as they had at least a half dozen on the display. |
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Problem with Schlage door lock
replying to Nosmo King, John wrote:
The problem is with the "deadlatch" mechanism in the exterior door lockset, which keeps someone from jimmying the lock open from the outside by pushing on the latch which locks up the latch when the extra pin that slides along the latch itself is depressed after the door closes and latches. The Schlage locksets are known for this failure in their latch mechanism after about 5-10 years depending on frequency of that exterior door use, and your symptom is the classic one of having to turn the knob slightly to get the latch to slide on the striker plate and the door to close. Schlage has a lifetime warranty on the part and will send you a replacement latch mechanism which is the part with the latch that installs in the edge of the door. The knobs and tumbler lockset that mount on each side of the door are reused, although they must be removed before removing and installing the latch mechanism. I've got the same problem with the back door on my house, and as much as I'd like to be able to at least temporarily repair the latch mechanism while waiting on the free replacement from Schlage, it's not feasible. It became very clear on examining it that the mechanism was not designed to be disassembled without the risk of damaging or destroying it. I could have gotten it apart. I've professionally disassembled dozens of products to document how they were fabricated and assembled in the manufacturing process. The issue in doing so was the risk of not being able to reassemble it into at least a partially functioning latch. The consequence would be inability to close and latch or lock an exterior door on my house. Not an acceptable risk. Better to have a partially functioning latch that effectively locks and none at all until the latch from Schlage arrives. -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ock-74975-.htm using HomeOwnersHub's Web, Mobile and Social Media Interface to alt.home.repair and other home improvement groups |
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replying to Will, martin spittler wrote:
Same problem. Mine is a Home Depot purchase. Schlage will send a new latch. Looks to be well made but obviously defective. Schlage did not seem surprised - must be cheaper to just send out free parts than engineer and manufacture zero failure rate. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ock-74975-.htm |
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replying to Will, Gary Tarver wrote:
I also have a Schlage lockset with the exact problem that you are describing. I have taken it off the door and WD40 sprayed all over. No change. It is hitting something inside the latch mechanism. It has lasted 18 years so far, bought from Home Depot, but I will need to get a new latch mechanism now. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ock-74975-.htm |
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On 8/30/2018 1:44 PM, Gary Tarver wrote:
replying to Will, Gary Tarver wrote: I also have a Schlage lockset with the exact problem that you are describing. I have taken it off the door and WD40 sprayed all over.Â* No change.Â* It is hitting something inside the latch mechanism.Â* It has lasted 18 years so far, bought from Home Depot, but I will need to get a new latch mechanism now. And if you call Schlage, they will sent you a new lock, although the new one required modifying a hole in my case. |
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Gary Tarver posted for all of us...
replying to Will, Gary Tarver wrote: I also have a Schlage lockset with the exact problem that you are describing. I have taken it off the door and WD40 sprayed all over. No change. It is hitting something inside the latch mechanism. It has lasted 18 years so far, bought from Home Depot, but I will need to get a new latch mechanism now. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ock-74975-.htm It is hard to tell what you are seeking from this post. I suggest that you get a real newsreader and find out what is being discussed and answered on the newsgroup: alt.home.repair You may get better results. -- Tekkie |
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