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bathroom lighting dillema
I have a bit of a dillema with my bathroom lighting. I am trying to
install a new light above the mirror but i just can't seem to get it to hook up properly. The existing light worked and I was positive I saw what was already hooked up and did the same with the new light. I have black to black and white to white, but still nothing works. The concern that I have, and which is more than likely the case, is that I am attaching the wrong wires. There are three sets of black and white wires comig out from the back of the lighting panel. If you picture the octagonal box facing you there are to sets of wires on the far left (which is closest to the wall with the light switch) one above the other, and then the last set of black and white wires are located down towards the bottom right corner of the oct. box. THe white wire from the bottom right one is left open whereas the other white wires have been merretted together. My problem lies with the black wires. Since there are three of them exposed I have tried connecting the black wire from the new light to each one of them and still no luck with power. I hope I have explained everything ok, if not I will try to give as much clarification as possible if anyone is willing to help. =) cheers |
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If this is the only light that goes on with the switch, what you have in the
box are one feed, bringing in the 120? volts, one line bringing the 120? volts out to something else, and one cable which goes to your switch. Once you determine which is which, you should have two white wires together which will also connect to the white of your fixture. You'll have two blacks together to which you will also attach the white wire to your switch and wirenut the three. You are left with one black, which is the return wire from the switch and this will go to the black of your fixture. wrote in message oups.com... I have a bit of a dillema with my bathroom lighting. I am trying to install a new light above the mirror but i just can't seem to get it to hook up properly. The existing light worked and I was positive I saw what was already hooked up and did the same with the new light. I have black to black and white to white, but still nothing works. The concern that I have, and which is more than likely the case, is that I am attaching the wrong wires. There are three sets of black and white wires comig out from the back of the lighting panel. If you picture the octagonal box facing you there are to sets of wires on the far left (which is closest to the wall with the light switch) one above the other, and then the last set of black and white wires are located down towards the bottom right corner of the oct. box. THe white wire from the bottom right one is left open whereas the other white wires have been merretted together. My problem lies with the black wires. Since there are three of them exposed I have tried connecting the black wire from the new light to each one of them and still no luck with power. I hope I have explained everything ok, if not I will try to give as much clarification as possible if anyone is willing to help. =) cheers |
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hmmm, I understand your explanation regarding the wires I am just
wondering how I can determine which are for which. Beside the light switch on the same wall there is also a plug, would this account for one of the sets of wires as well? Also, is there any guaranteed way of ensuring the wires stay connected? By this I mean is there any product out there that will ensure a more secure conenction between the wires that you are using. THe reason for my question is that merrets (wire connectors) just seem to be so darn tempermental. Just when you think you've got the wires secured together you go and try and tuck them away and one wire pops out. In the response you gave it seems like I will definitely be connecting two or more copper wires together, using a bigger wire connector (merrett) would definitely be the better way to go then eh? thanks for your help so far. cheers |
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bathroom lighting dillema
In article .com,
wrote: I have a bit of a dillema with my bathroom lighting. I am trying to install a new light above the mirror but i just can't seem to get it to hook up properly. The existing light worked and I was positive I saw what was already hooked up and did the same with the new light. I have black to black and white to white, but still nothing works. The concern that I have, and which is more than likely the case, is that I am attaching the wrong wires. There are three sets of black and white wires comig out from the back of the lighting panel. If you picture the octagonal box facing you there are to sets of wires on the far left (which is closest to the wall with the light switch) one above the other, and then the last set of black and white wires are located down towards the bottom right corner of the oct. box. THe white wire from the bottom right one is left open whereas the other white wires have been merretted together. My problem lies with the black wires. Since there are three of them exposed I have tried connecting the black wire from the new light to each one of them and still no luck with power. I hope I have explained everything ok, if not I will try to give as much clarification as possible if anyone is willing to help. Here is my best guess: The 3 b/w pairs a 1) Supply from the breaker. 2) The switch. 3) feed to some other light or fan. Seperate all wires. See if one pair has 110vac on it. Thats #1. If the other 2 pairs have zero voltage between then and to ground, then use an ohmmeter (or continuity tester). If one goes from zero ohms to infinite ohms with flipping the switch, Thats #2. If the third pair has continuity independant of the switch and is some value greater than zero ohms, thats (probably) #3. Turn the breaker off. Connect the #1 & #3 pairs together, black to black and white to white. Turn the breaker on. Is another light or a fan now on? If yes, your rolling. Turn the breaker off again. Disconnect the temporary connection between #1 & #3. Connect #3 to the light fixture matching colors. Connect the white wire of #1 to the white of the fixture & #3. Connect the black wire of #1 to the black of #2. Connect the white of #2 to the black of the fixture & #3. Check the wireing, turn switch off. Turn breaker on. If my guesses are correct and you did it right all should work. If it turns out that you did NOT want whatever is on #3 to be controlled by the switch but on always (perhaps it has its own switch), move the black & white of #3 from the b/w of the fixture to the b/w of #1. Put everything back together and clean up. NOTE: If you are not comfortable doing the tests and connections I have described, CALL AN ELECTRICIAN. -- Rich Greenberg Marietta, GA, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 770 321 6507 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red & Shasta (RIP),Red, husky Owner:Chinook-L Atlanta Siberian Husky Rescue. www.panix.com/~richgr/ Asst Owner:Sibernet-L |
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bathroom lighting dillema
I have taken a picture of the box and the wires in the hopes that some
clarification will arise regarding my dillema. Thanks for your detailed description regarding some steps I should take. I will give them a shot and see how they turn out. But let me know if the picture makes any thing clearer. thanks http://ca.geocities.com/mybrainhurts...mages/pic1.jpg cheers |
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The link to the pictures did not work. But one thing that I do not
think was mentioned, if you have GFI outlet in your bathroom, see if you have to reset it. |
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bathroom lighting dillema
i do have gfi outlet and I will try and do the whole reset thing. In
regards to the link to the picture you have to click the little blue line before the @rogers.com part because it is protecting my email addy from spammers and stuff. cheers |
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bathroom lighting dillema
i just went and checked the GFI plug and nothing was tripped. I guess
since it is 12:30am I will head to bed and have to go out and buy a voltmeter tomorrow and try and get this all figured out. |
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bathroom lighting dillema
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input and assistance.
I got myself the digital multi meter, found out what was what, and hooked everything up properly. And voila...let there be light!! Thanks again |
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Wish more would post what they did to solve the reason for original
post! Thanks. On 29 Nov 2005 10:22:18 -0800, wrote: I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input and assistance. I got myself the digital multi meter, found out what was what, and hooked everything up properly. And voila...let there be light!! Thanks again |
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