I'm starting to install GFCI outlets in this house I just bought. I'm
starting with the circuit where the fridge would be. From what I can
tell right now, the fridge is on its own circuit, but I haven't verified
every single outlet; just ones on the same part of wall on both sides of
the wall. The problem is that I have 4 wires total, one green (ground),
one red, and two white wires.

I'm not sure at all how to wire this up. The old outlet had green to
ground, red on the top left, white #1 on the top right, and white #2 on
the bottom right. How would I wire this for a GFCI outlet?

Adam Preble wrote:
I'm starting to install GFCI outlets in this house I just bought. I'm
starting with the circuit where the fridge would be. From what I can
tell right now, the fridge is on its own circuit, but I haven't verified
every single outlet; just ones on the same part of wall on both sides of
the wall. The problem is that I have 4 wires total, one green (ground),
one red, and two white wires.

I'm not sure at all how to wire this up. The old outlet had green to
ground, red on the top left, white #1 on the top right, and white #2 on
the bottom right. How would I wire this for a GFCI outlet?
Hi,
May I ask why you need a GFCI for your fridge?
Tony

Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi,
May I ask why you need a GFCI for your fridge?
Tony

The outlet that I think is intended to the fridge would go behind the
fridge where I plan to have the fridge. There's another outlet nearby
that's also a part of the kitchen; that could work just as well.
Generally, I'm just trying to keep it safe and update the whole kitchen
together. I just coincidentally started on this one first. I doubt
this would be the last outlet I see wired this way. I don't see a
mention in the online manual of how much current the fridge draws, and
I'm aware I might have to get a higher amperage GFCI.

Adam Preble wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:

Hi,
May I ask why you need a GFCI for your fridge?
Tony


The outlet that I think is intended to the fridge would go behind the
fridge where I plan to have the fridge. There's another outlet nearby
that's also a part of the kitchen; that could work just as well.
Generally, I'm just trying to keep it safe and update the whole kitchen
together. I just coincidentally started on this one first. I doubt
this would be the last outlet I see wired this way. I don't see a
mention in the online manual of how much current the fridge draws, and
I'm aware I might have to get a higher amperage GFCI.

Hi,
I don't think how many wires or colors you have in an outlet matters.
Just parallel move it over to the new GFCI outlet if you want to.
Typically bathroom, exterior outlets need to be GFCI. In addition,
in my house I have some in the sunroom/greenhouse.
Tony

Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi,
I don't think how many wires or colors you have in an outlet matters.
Just parallel move it over to the new GFCI outlet if you want to.
Typically bathroom, exterior outlets need to be GFCI. In addition,
in my house I have some in the sunroom/greenhouse.
Tony

If I do a parallel move, that puts from the backside:
red on the top left of "load"
white #1 on the top right of "load"
white #2 on the bottom right of "line"
green on ground

I did try this to satisfy my curiosity. I couldn't reset the outlet and
try anything; it was dead after turning on the breaker. I could have
connected something poorly, of course.

Adam Preble wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:

Hi,
I don't think how many wires or colors you have in an outlet matters.
Just parallel move it over to the new GFCI outlet if you want to.
Typically bathroom, exterior outlets need to be GFCI. In addition,
in my house I have some in the sunroom/greenhouse.
Tony


If I do a parallel move, that puts from the backside:
red on the top left of "load"
white #1 on the top right of "load"
white #2 on the bottom right of "line"
green on ground

I did try this to satisfy my curiosity. I couldn't reset the outlet and
try anything; it was dead after turning on the breaker. I could have
connected something poorly, of course.
Hmm,
Wondering if that particular outlet is that of split one. Common thing
in ther kitchen. Top and bottom half are split and fed by different
breaker if that's the case. Like two circuits in one outlet. If it is
split one, looking from the side of outlet, the metal link
connecting'two halves is knocked off(missing)
Tony

In a kitchen, by current code all counter outlets are required to be GFCI
protected. Do not install a GFCI for the fridge. Whatever wires you find on
the existing outlet: i.e. two whites, one red, and green, Connect green to
ground, connect red to "line hot" which should be a brass screw, and splice
both whites together with a third white wire,(a pigtail) which you connect
to the "line neutral" You are going to have different sets of wires at each
outlet, but follow this same procedure. If you find two black wires on an
existing outlet, connect them to the new GFCI with a pigtail as well.





"Adam Preble" wrote in message
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I'm starting to install GFCI outlets in this house I just bought. I'm
starting with the circuit where the fridge would be. From what I can tell
right now, the fridge is on its own circuit, but I haven't verified every
single outlet; just ones on the same part of wall on both sides of the
wall. The problem is that I have 4 wires total, one green (ground), one
red, and two white wires.

I'm not sure at all how to wire this up. The old outlet had green to
ground, red on the top left, white #1 on the top right, and white #2 on
the bottom right. How would I wire this for a GFCI outlet?

It is not a split outlet, he only has one "hot" wire connected to it. He's
got it wired backwards
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
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Adam Preble wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:

Hi,
I don't think how many wires or colors you have in an outlet matters.
Just parallel move it over to the new GFCI outlet if you want to.
Typically bathroom, exterior outlets need to be GFCI. In addition,
in my house I have some in the sunroom/greenhouse.
Tony


If I do a parallel move, that puts from the backside:
red on the top left of "load"
white #1 on the top right of "load"
white #2 on the bottom right of "line"
green on ground

I did try this to satisfy my curiosity. I couldn't reset the outlet and
try anything; it was dead after turning on the breaker. I could have
connected something poorly, of course.
Hmm,
Wondering if that particular outlet is that of split one. Common thing in
ther kitchen. Top and bottom half are split and fed by different breaker
if that's the case. Like two circuits in one outlet. If it is split one,
looking from the side of outlet, the metal link connecting'two halves is
knocked off(missing)
Tony

"Adam Preble" wrote in message
news
I'm starting to install GFCI outlets in this house I just bought. I'm
starting with the circuit where the fridge would be. From what I can
tell right now, the fridge is on its own circuit, but I haven't verified
every single outlet; just ones on the same part of wall on both sides of
the wall. The problem is that I have 4 wires total, one green (ground),
one red, and two white wires.

I'm not sure at all how to wire this up. The old outlet had green to
ground, red on the top left, white #1 on the top right, and white #2 on
the bottom right. How would I wire this for a GFCI outlet?

Very odd number and color of wires in that box. Red usually comes with a 3
wire circuit, red black white ground is understood.

White is typically a neutral, but can be a hot wire. Your wiring description
tells me that the red is the hot and their are two neutrals.

I certainly do not understand why you would put a refer motor on a gfci
outlet.

I can't think of a legitimate reason for having the two white wires like
that; and would try to figure it out before I did any rewiring.

"Toller" wrote in message
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I can't think of a legitimate reason for having the two white wires like
that; and would try to figure it out before I did any rewiring.


I can. There is probably a three wire cable and a two wire cable in the
box. The two black wires are spliced together to pass that circuit on to
the next outlet. The red stops at the outlet Adam is working on to feed
that outlet. The original installer connected the two whites on the outlet
to join them together as well as feed that outlet. A better method would be
to have spliced the whites together and add a pigtail to feed the outlet as
RBM suggested.


John Grabowski
http://www.mrelectrician.tv

"John Grabowski" wrote in message
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"Toller" wrote in message
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I can't think of a legitimate reason for having the two white wires like
that; and would try to figure it out before I did any rewiring.


I can. There is probably a three wire cable and a two wire cable in the
box. The two black wires are spliced together to pass that circuit on to
the next outlet. The red stops at the outlet Adam is working on to feed
that outlet. The original installer connected the two whites on the
outlet
to join them together as well as feed that outlet. A better method would
be
to have spliced the whites together and add a pigtail to feed the outlet
as
RBM suggested.

You might be right, but I would hope he would have mentioned the blacks.

The new GFI should be marked on the back to indicate where the "line in"
goes.

You need to identify the source and it attaches there.

"Adam Preble" wrote in message
news
I'm starting to install GFCI outlets in this house I just bought. I'm
starting with the circuit where the fridge would be. From what I can tell
right now, the fridge is on its own circuit, but I haven't verified every
single outlet; just ones on the same part of wall on both sides of the
wall. The problem is that I have 4 wires total, one green (ground), one
red, and two white wires.

I'm not sure at all how to wire this up. The old outlet had green to
ground, red on the top left, white #1 on the top right, and white #2 on
the bottom right. How would I wire this for a GFCI outlet?

In article , Adam Preble wrote:
I'm starting to install GFCI outlets in this house I just bought. I'm
starting with the circuit where the fridge would be.

Stop. Don't.

All it takes is one nuisance trip, and you have an entire refrigerator full of
spoiled food.

From what I can
tell right now, the fridge is on its own circuit, but I haven't verified
every single outlet; just ones on the same part of wall on both sides of
the wall. The problem is that I have 4 wires total, one green (ground),
one red, and two white wires.

Uh-oh.

I'm not sure at all how to wire this up. The old outlet had green to
ground, red on the top left, white #1 on the top right, and white #2 on
the bottom right. How would I wire this for a GFCI outlet?

Hire a pro. You're in over your head.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

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"John Grabowski" wrote in message
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"Toller" wrote in message
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I can't think of a legitimate reason for having the two white wires like
that; and would try to figure it out before I did any rewiring.


I can. There is probably a three wire cable and a two wire cable in the
box. The two black wires are spliced together to pass that circuit on to
the next outlet. The red stops at the outlet Adam is working on to feed
that outlet. The original installer connected the two whites on the
outlet
to join them together as well as feed that outlet. A better method would
be
to have spliced the whites together and add a pigtail to feed the outlet
as
RBM suggested.

You might be right, but I would hope he would have mentioned the blacks.

Probably didn't see any reason to, since they aren't connected to the
outlet.

You ever get that "0.411-inch pipe" under your double-wide fixed
properly? Have you tried chewing gum and duct tape yet?