Home Repair (alt.home.repair) For all homeowners and DIYers with many experienced tradesmen. Solve your toughest home fix-it problems.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Robert11
 
Posts: n/a
Default Added Cost For Having A Variuable Speed Blower On A Forced Hot Air Furnace: Wow ! (?)

Hello:

Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very
old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one.
Probably about 100 K BTU/H size.

Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit.

Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the
variable speed
blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower.

Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ?
If not, what would be "right" ?

Thanks,
B.


  #2   Report Post  
udarrell
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I retired from HVAC/R a decade ago so do not know what the actual costs are.
I hope everyone in the business from the manufacturers' on down the chain do
everything they can to keep the price spread as close as possible.
We need to save as much energy as possible and consumers need to keep their
A/C and heating utility bills as low as possible.
Low interest government loans on the highest efficiency equipment would help
because over time the payback would pay for the extra cost.
- udarrell - Darrell
--
Air-Conditioning Efficiency - "Optimizing evaporator Coil Btu/hr is
critical"

http://www.udarrell.com/air-conditio...ator-coil.html

----------------
"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:

Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very
old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one.
Probably about 100 K BTU/H size.

Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit.

Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the
variable speed
blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower.

Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ?
If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, - B.



  #3   Report Post  
Edwin Pawlowski
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"udarrell" wrote in message
Low interest government loans on the highest efficiency equipment would
help
because over time the payback would pay for the extra cost.
- udarrell - Darrell


If the payback is good, we don't need the government (our tax dollars) to
subsidize it then do we?


  #4   Report Post  
Tony Hwang
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Robert11 wrote:

Hello:

Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very
old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one.
Probably about 100 K BTU/H size.

Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit.

Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the
variable speed
blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower.

Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ?
If not, what would be "right" ?

Thanks,
B.


Hi,
I am retired engineer(EE) from Honeywell. My own idea is getting a two
speed blower model. highest efficiency, variable speed blower model
typically needs more maintenance. If and when something goes wrong
outside warranty, the cost is pretty steep. Highest efficiency comes at
a price. My house is R2000 spec'd building. I have dual speed equipped
furnace.
Have fun,
Tony
  #5   Report Post  
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:

Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very
old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one.
Probably about 100 K BTU/H size.

Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit.

Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the
variable speed
blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower.

Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ?
If not, what would be "right" ?

Thanks,
B.



Yup..thats about right.
Wait till the motor and controller fail out of warranty...LOL
Gotta love Trane and American Standard prices...particularly, out of
warranty.

$1500 will barely get the motor and controller replaced out of warranty.



  #6   Report Post  
Kathy
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"
wrote in message
...

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:

Have started talking to HVAC contractors

regarding replacing a very
old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new

Trane or American Standard one.
Probably about 100 K BTU/H size.

Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable

speed blower unit.

Shocked at what the price differential "seems"

to be for a unit with the
variable speed
blower, and for the same unit without the

variable speed blower.

Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500

sound right ?
If not, what would be "right" ?

Thanks,
B.



Yup..thats about right.
Wait till the motor and controller fail out of

warranty...LOL
Gotta love Trane and American Standard

prices...particularly, out of
warranty.

$1500 will barely get the motor and controller

replaced out of warranty.


How much does an extended warranty cost for those
brands? Does any brand offer longer than a 10 year
extended warranty?


  #7   Report Post  
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I'm curious as to why you wouldn't want it on the highest setting at
all times anyway? I mean what do you gain by slowing down the fan
speed?

  #8   Report Post  
stretch
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Steve@carolinabreezehvac.=ADcom May 16, 12:10 am show options

Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
From: "
- Find messages by this author
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:10:36 -0400
Local: Mon,May 16 2005 12:10 am
Subject: Added Cost For Having A Variuable Speed Blower On A Forced
Hot Air Furnace: Wow ! (?)
Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
original | Report Abuse




- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:


Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very
old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard

one.
Probably about 100 K BTU/H size.



Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit.



Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with

the
variable speed
blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower.



Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ?
If not, what would be "right" ?



Thanks,
B.




Steve Said:
$1500 will barely get the motor and controller replaced out of warranty



The Trane VS motor Module is about $100.00 to $200.00 (LIST) for
repairs, depending on size (blower capacity). Usually only the module
needs replaced, not the entire motor. Replacing the module only takes
about 15 minutes instead of an hour, so the total cost is not that high
compared to a standard motor.

Steve must be using the gold plated motors. :-)

The cost of a VS air handler over a standard air handler is usually
$500 to $1000.00 List. sounds like your contractor doesn't like VS, or
doesn't know much about it.

If you live in a high humidity climate, VS is better, when set to
enhanced mode. VS also overcomes slightly undersized duct systems and
high efficiency filters better than standard blowers.

Trane has 10 year parts warranty standard on their better units, so
repair cost should not be as much of a problem as some state.

Stretch

  #9   Report Post  
stretch
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Scott,
If you set the blower to a lower setting part of the time, the coil
gets colder. This lowers the coil further below the dew point and
therefore takes more moisture out of the air. This provides lower
relative humidity in the house, less likely to have problems with mold
and dust mites. Makes house more comfortable as well. VS motor is
normally quieter than a standard blower, which can be important in some
installations.

Stretch

  #10   Report Post  
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"stretch" wrote in message
oups.com...
Steve@carolinabreezehvac.*com May 16, 12:10 am show options

Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
From: "
- Find messages by this author
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:10:36 -0400
Local: Mon,May 16 2005 12:10 am
Subject: Added Cost For Having A Variuable Speed Blower On A Forced
Hot Air Furnace: Wow ! (?)
Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show
original | Report Abuse




- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello:


Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very
old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard

one.
Probably about 100 K BTU/H size.



Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit.



Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with

the
variable speed
blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower.



Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ?
If not, what would be "right" ?



Thanks,
B.




Steve Said:
$1500 will barely get the motor and controller replaced out of warranty



The Trane VS motor Module is about $100.00 to $200.00 (LIST) for
repairs, depending on size (blower capacity). Usually only the module
needs replaced, not the entire motor. Replacing the module only takes
about 15 minutes instead of an hour, so the total cost is not that high
compared to a standard motor.

Steve must be using the gold plated motors. :-)

Nope..just looking at the price sheets handed out by Trane of Gso...

No ones stuff is cheap, but then, Mrtyle Beach and Horry county seem to use
a different price zone than the larger, more upscale area.


The cost of a VS air handler over a standard air handler is usually
$500 to $1000.00 List. sounds like your contractor doesn't like VS, or
doesn't know much about it.

If you live in a high humidity climate, VS is better, when set to
enhanced mode. VS also overcomes slightly undersized duct systems and
high efficiency filters better than standard blowers.

Trane has 10 year parts warranty standard on their better units, so
repair cost should not be as much of a problem as some state.

Stretch



  #11   Report Post  
Mark
 
Posts: n/a
Default


are these the variable speed motors/controllers that are causing radio
and TV interference?

Mark

  #12   Report Post  
MLD
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Mark" wrote in message
ups.com...

are these the variable speed motors/controllers that are causing radio
and TV interference?

Mark

No. So far it has only been the vent (inducer) motor that is the prime
cause of the RFI.
MLD


  #13   Report Post  
stretch
 
Posts: n/a
Default

They must think you guys are rolling in it. If you want stuff really
cheap, go to Floriga. It is the manufacturer's dumping groumd.

Stretch

Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to charge for your work William Woodworking 18 July 13th 04 03:44 AM
Different versions of the Nova DVR 3000? william kossack Woodturning 17 January 30th 04 07:23 AM
HOW DO YOU GUYS FIGURE PROFIT? Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT Woodworking 26 September 29th 03 02:46 AM
New Electrical Regulations Tony Bryer UK diy 278 September 25th 03 09:53 PM
Central A/C cooling fine but humidity seems high D- Home Repair 6 July 3rd 03 09:40 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 DIYbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about DIY & home improvement"