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Added Cost For Having A Variuable Speed Blower On A Forced Hot Air Furnace: Wow ! (?)
Hello:
Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one. Probably about 100 K BTU/H size. Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit. Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the variable speed blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower. Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ? If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, B. |
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I retired from HVAC/R a decade ago so do not know what the actual costs are.
I hope everyone in the business from the manufacturers' on down the chain do everything they can to keep the price spread as close as possible. We need to save as much energy as possible and consumers need to keep their A/C and heating utility bills as low as possible. Low interest government loans on the highest efficiency equipment would help because over time the payback would pay for the extra cost. - udarrell - Darrell -- Air-Conditioning Efficiency - "Optimizing evaporator Coil Btu/hr is critical" http://www.udarrell.com/air-conditio...ator-coil.html ---------------- "Robert11" wrote in message ... Hello: Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one. Probably about 100 K BTU/H size. Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit. Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the variable speed blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower. Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ? If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, - B. |
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"udarrell" wrote in message Low interest government loans on the highest efficiency equipment would help because over time the payback would pay for the extra cost. - udarrell - Darrell If the payback is good, we don't need the government (our tax dollars) to subsidize it then do we? |
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Robert11 wrote:
Hello: Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one. Probably about 100 K BTU/H size. Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit. Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the variable speed blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower. Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ? If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, B. Hi, I am retired engineer(EE) from Honeywell. My own idea is getting a two speed blower model. highest efficiency, variable speed blower model typically needs more maintenance. If and when something goes wrong outside warranty, the cost is pretty steep. Highest efficiency comes at a price. My house is R2000 spec'd building. I have dual speed equipped furnace. Have fun, Tony |
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"Robert11" wrote in message ... Hello: Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one. Probably about 100 K BTU/H size. Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit. Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the variable speed blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower. Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ? If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, B. Yup..thats about right. Wait till the motor and controller fail out of warranty...LOL Gotta love Trane and American Standard prices...particularly, out of warranty. $1500 will barely get the motor and controller replaced out of warranty. |
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" wrote in message ... "Robert11" wrote in message ... Hello: Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one. Probably about 100 K BTU/H size. Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit. Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the variable speed blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower. Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ? If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, B. Yup..thats about right. Wait till the motor and controller fail out of warranty...LOL Gotta love Trane and American Standard prices...particularly, out of warranty. $1500 will barely get the motor and controller replaced out of warranty. How much does an extended warranty cost for those brands? Does any brand offer longer than a 10 year extended warranty? |
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I'm curious as to why you wouldn't want it on the highest setting at
all times anyway? I mean what do you gain by slowing down the fan speed? |
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Steve@carolinabreezehvac.=ADcom May 16, 12:10 am show options
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair From: " - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:10:36 -0400 Local: Mon,May 16 2005 12:10 am Subject: Added Cost For Having A Variuable Speed Blower On A Forced Hot Air Furnace: Wow ! (?) Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Robert11" wrote in message ... Hello: Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one. Probably about 100 K BTU/H size. Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit. Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the variable speed blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower. Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ? If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, B. Steve Said: $1500 will barely get the motor and controller replaced out of warranty The Trane VS motor Module is about $100.00 to $200.00 (LIST) for repairs, depending on size (blower capacity). Usually only the module needs replaced, not the entire motor. Replacing the module only takes about 15 minutes instead of an hour, so the total cost is not that high compared to a standard motor. Steve must be using the gold plated motors. :-) The cost of a VS air handler over a standard air handler is usually $500 to $1000.00 List. sounds like your contractor doesn't like VS, or doesn't know much about it. If you live in a high humidity climate, VS is better, when set to enhanced mode. VS also overcomes slightly undersized duct systems and high efficiency filters better than standard blowers. Trane has 10 year parts warranty standard on their better units, so repair cost should not be as much of a problem as some state. Stretch |
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Scott,
If you set the blower to a lower setting part of the time, the coil gets colder. This lowers the coil further below the dew point and therefore takes more moisture out of the air. This provides lower relative humidity in the house, less likely to have problems with mold and dust mites. Makes house more comfortable as well. VS motor is normally quieter than a standard blower, which can be important in some installations. Stretch |
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"stretch" wrote in message oups.com... Steve@carolinabreezehvac.*com May 16, 12:10 am show options Newsgroups: alt.home.repair From: " - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 00:10:36 -0400 Local: Mon,May 16 2005 12:10 am Subject: Added Cost For Having A Variuable Speed Blower On A Forced Hot Air Furnace: Wow ! (?) Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Robert11" wrote in message ... Hello: Have started talking to HVAC contractors regarding replacing a very old gas, forced hot air furnace with a new Trane or American Standard one. Probably about 100 K BTU/H size. Wanted to get a two stage, with a variable speed blower unit. Shocked at what the price differential "seems" to be for a unit with the variable speed blower, and for the same unit without the variable speed blower. Does a differential in cost of about $ 1,500 sound right ? If not, what would be "right" ? Thanks, B. Steve Said: $1500 will barely get the motor and controller replaced out of warranty The Trane VS motor Module is about $100.00 to $200.00 (LIST) for repairs, depending on size (blower capacity). Usually only the module needs replaced, not the entire motor. Replacing the module only takes about 15 minutes instead of an hour, so the total cost is not that high compared to a standard motor. Steve must be using the gold plated motors. :-) Nope..just looking at the price sheets handed out by Trane of Gso... No ones stuff is cheap, but then, Mrtyle Beach and Horry county seem to use a different price zone than the larger, more upscale area. The cost of a VS air handler over a standard air handler is usually $500 to $1000.00 List. sounds like your contractor doesn't like VS, or doesn't know much about it. If you live in a high humidity climate, VS is better, when set to enhanced mode. VS also overcomes slightly undersized duct systems and high efficiency filters better than standard blowers. Trane has 10 year parts warranty standard on their better units, so repair cost should not be as much of a problem as some state. Stretch |
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are these the variable speed motors/controllers that are causing radio and TV interference? Mark |
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"Mark" wrote in message ups.com... are these the variable speed motors/controllers that are causing radio and TV interference? Mark No. So far it has only been the vent (inducer) motor that is the prime cause of the RFI. MLD |
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They must think you guys are rolling in it. If you want stuff really
cheap, go to Floriga. It is the manufacturer's dumping groumd. Stretch |
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