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Mosquito control -- Standing water: how to drain water from tires.
Maybe I'm missing something but who stores tires on their property? If
for some reason you do, I'm thinking that it would easier to use a drill with a large bit to make several large holes in the tires for drainage? |
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The Bald Ass Prairie Farm rosielle@telus wrote:
"quietguy" wrote in message much easier to just pop a desertspoon or so of kero in each tyre - stops the mossies from breeding Or just soap, they breed and the larva drown. Or, don't store tires outside in the rain. Anthony |
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" wrote in
oups.com: Maybe I'm missing something but who stores tires on their property? If for some reason you do, I'm thinking that it would easier to use a drill with a large bit to make several large holes in the tires for drainage? I'm thinking it'd be easier to get rid of the tires! |
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Anthony Matonak wrote: The Bald Ass Prairie Farm rosielle@telus wrote: "quietguy" wrote in message much easier to just pop a desertspoon or so of kero in each tyre - stops the mossies from breeding Or just soap, they breed and the larva drown. Or, don't store tires outside in the rain. Anthony And what is that bit about re-cycling?? Never heard of any effort to set up bins for rubber. Harry K |
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wrote in message
oups.com... Maybe I'm missing something but who stores tires on their property? If So long as it does not dry out (say within 10 days) a hoof print (of a cow, deer or horse) holds enough rainwater to support mosquito larvae. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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HOLD ON A MINUTE!!
* FIRST OF ALL: I only had two tires on my property (like most people have)-- I only cut off two sidewalls: one from each tire. This allowed water to drain. Yes it was a "small challenge" to cut rubber; yet it was easier than the gym!! * SECOND: If recycling parts of the tire material; so as to easily palce the parts into a recycling bin, I would use a simple template with a knife in order to efficiently guide, and cut round pieces of sidewalls. * THIRD: Communicating on newsgroups can be like the classic story of the "Six Blind Men and the Elephhant" e.g., where perfectly intelligent suggestions are misconstrued as stupid! |
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Drilling several large holes in the sidewalls is an option; even though
the water would drain slowly. Drilling holes into the tread (with steel belts and all) is difficult and may wear-out the drillbit. Again, the objective here is to recycle tires. Disposing tires whole may be difficult; as many landfills do not accept whole tires. Recycling parts of the tire material (which are valued for recycling efforts) so as to easily place the parts into a recycling bin is simplified; by means of a cutting-knife mounted on a simlpe template in order to efficiently guide, and cut round pieces of sidewalls. |
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One reply suggested a "time-saving option" of drilling several large
holes; even though the water would drain slowly. Drilling holes into the tread (with steel belts and all) is difficult and may wear-out the drillbit. Drilling holes in the sidewalls are "least problematic." Again, recycling parts of the tire material (which are valued for recycling efforts as well as valued for the ease of placing tire-parts into a recycling bin) is simplified; by means of a cutting-knife mounted on a simple template in order to efficiently guide, and cut round pieces of sidewalls. |
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Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since the
sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be valued by recycing industries. "Buyback programs would be an even better idea than just placing tire parts in recycling bins!" |
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Now it seems to me the idiot is the one who stockpiled several thousand
tires so tread (no pun intended) lightly with someone trying to help you........I used to be in the refuse business and there was a short period of time when you could actually sell used tires and nimrods like yourself dove in headfirst and started collecting tires to get rich quick........problem is you didn't follow the regulations on when the payments were going to stop.......if you only have several thousand maybe buy a bunch of rope and start selling tire swings.........ya think......???......what a jerk......now tell me someone else put those tires there.........you are just as stupid for not making them remove them as a condition of sale........good luck Eric and don't be so quick to treat people trying to help like ****...... Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" |
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Eric wrote: wrote: [ ... ] Since it is difficult to discard water from tires, one solution is to cut-off the sidewalls of tires; hence allowing water to drain easily. This can be done with basic knives available at any hardware and home improvement stores. Uh huh, right! and how many sidewalls have you cut? No doubt none! Idiot, try your own advice before you offer it to others. Lets see how much you enjoy cutting several thousand sidewalls off of tires. It's apparently not that difficult. In Pennsylvania, the sidewalls are popular for weighting down tarps and other covers on farms. In fact go ahead and try cutting the sidewalls off of just one tire and see if that doesnt give you something new to think about... A past poster here was cutting off sidewalls, until she found that the already-cut tread sections were available for making raised beds in her garden. That made her life a bit easier, and her garden a lot bigger... Gary -- Gary Heston Windows is like SUVs; a bad idea, poorly implemented, unsafe, with a lot of intept users, but a fact of life we have to put up with. |
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On 3/24/2005 9:26 AM US(ET), Harry K took fingers to keys, and typed the
following: Anthony Matonak wrote: The Bald Ass Prairie Farm rosielle@telus wrote: "quietguy" wrote in message much easier to just pop a desertspoon or so of kero in each tyre - stops the mossies from breeding Or just soap, they breed and the larva drown. Or, don't store tires outside in the rain. Anthony And what is that bit about re-cycling?? Never heard of any effort to set up bins for rubber. Harry K http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/recycling...rumbrubber.htm -- Bill |
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"Tire parts can easily be placed into existing recycling-bins. Since
the sidewalls don't contain embedded steel-belts, the sidwalls would be valued by recycing industries. " What a total moron. Every community that I'm aware of requires recyclables to be seperated by type. And none of them accept tires or tire parts as part of the std household recycling stream. Some will take tires as part of a seperate special program, typically for a fee and at a drop off location that is entirely seperate from the std recycling pick up. And those are a headache to get rid of too. In fact, here in NJ, the state recently instituted a tax on tires to help pay for getting rid of them, because no one wants them. |
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"Anthony Matonak" wrote Or, don't store tires outside in the rain. Are you suggesting to store inside in the rain? Or bring them inside when it's raining? |
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Blake wrote:
"Anthony Matonak" wrote Or, don't store tires outside in the rain. Are you suggesting to store inside in the rain? Or bring them inside when it's raining? Why store tires at all? What are you saving them for? How many tires do you have that you can't find a place for them under some kind of cover? You don't have a tire dump in the state? You don't have a garage, barn, shed, tarp, or anything else? I see this kind of "question" along the same lines of "How do you keep your meth lab from blowing up?" and "The stack of old car batteries in my back yard is starting to leak into my cesspool, what can I do?". Anthony |
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Anthony Matonak wrote:
Blake wrote: "Anthony Matonak" wrote Or, don't store tires outside in the rain. Are you suggesting to store inside in the rain? Or bring them inside when it's raining? Why store tires at all? What are you saving them for? How many tires do you have that you can't find a place for them under some kind of cover? You don't have a tire dump in the state? You don't have a garage, barn, shed, tarp, or anything else? It's good to keep one or two wheel-less tires around to tie to the front or back of a car when you need to use one to push another. I see this kind of "question" along the same lines of "How do you keep your meth lab from blowing up?" and "The stack of old car batteries in my back yard is starting to leak into my cesspool, what can I do?". You've been spying in my neighborhood :-( You're wrong about the cesspool, though, we were on city sewers long before we moved in 37 years ago. We did have a lab blow up up the street, though. Or maybe it was just a small fire. Anyway, the hazmat team was there. -- Cheers, Bev ================================================== =============== "The federal government has taken too much tax money from the people, too much authority from the states, and too much liberty with the Constitution." -- Ronald Reagan |
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"Here in CA, most types of clean waste (styrofoam one of the
exceptions) can be placed (and mixed-in) the recycling bins e.g., all the different types of paper, plastics, metals, etc. Nothing has been said about rubber or tire-parts. " The fact that nothing has been said about tire parts or rubber pretty much tells you that they don't want them in the recyclables, doesn't it? I'm sure no one is regularly chopping up tires and putting them in with the other standard recyclables. And if they did, what do you think would happen to it when it gets to the recycling facility? Most likely, it would get chucked into the stuff headed for the land fill. I also find it interesting that in your area of CA you can just mix all the recyclables together. It's very unusual to see paper mixed with glass, cans etc. I would think this would make a big mess to try to sort out. More typical is to have it seperated: newpaper mixed other paper glass/cans/plastic And event these typically have some restricitions. For example, glass means containers, not window glass, and as you pointed out, plastic means household containers, not styrofoam, etc. Some also require glass seperated from metals. |
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Speaking of recycling, tire-recycling initiatives can get a boost; as
the sidewalls of tires (easily available in tire parts) do not contain steel belts, which may make sidewalls valued for ease of recycling.(snip) There is often a steel cable embedded underneath the bead of the sidewall. One of the recycling technologies used for tires these days is to burn them for the heat they generate, in a furnace designed for making limestone into cement powder. It is efficient, with the ash becoming part of the cement. Years ago, I remember seeing tire treads cut and shaped into soles of sandals made in Mexico. There was also a company here in the US that made used inner tubes into purses and wallets. I don't know if they're still around. Steel belts have certainly complicated the recycling of tires, for which there used to be a good market.-Jitney |
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Why do you tires on your property, outside? Your neighbors must be
thrilled! |
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scordelia wrote: Why do you tires on your property, outside? Your neighbors must be thrilled! I only had two tires that I stacked and used as a solar-heated planter. |
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"Scott en Aztlán" wrote:
On 28 Mar 2005 11:36:28 -0800, wrote: I also find it interesting that in your area of CA you can just mix all the recyclables together. It's very unusual to see paper mixed with glass, cans etc. I would think this would make a big mess to try to sort out. More typical is to have it seperated: newpaper mixed other paper glass/cans/plastic To clarify: The "usually observed rule" is to put different materials into different bags (even placing office-grade paper in separate bags). I've never observed that rule. In fact, I've never heard of it. I've heard of it being done that way, but I certainly wouldn't be willing to go to that much trouble -- probably what everybody else thought too. We (as a city) pay extra to have stuff recycled. What that means is that we have fewer than 5 gallons of trash to pay for every week, which is not bad. I have always tossed all the recyclables into the barrel together. Cans and bottles are usually thrown in loose, newspapers are often (but not always) placed inside paper grocery bags, and shredded office paper is contained in plastic garbage bags. Waste Management has never complained. Everything -- paper, plastic, metal, glass -- gets tossed loose into the recycling bin, which is picked up by one of those huge automated trucks. Every once in a while there's a picture in the paper of conveyor belts filled with trash being sorted by white-garbed and -masked workers. I guess there are worse jobs, but I wouldn't want one any more than the welfare louts do. I wonder how they deal with all the broken glass, which it almost has to be by the time the truck is nearly full. -- Cheers, Bev ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ "Why put fault tolerance in the OS, when it's already built into the User?" -- Steve Shaw, regarding Win95 |
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Scott en Aztl=E1n wrote: On 28 Mar 2005 11:36:28 -0800, wrote: I also find it interesting that in your area of CA you can just mix all the recyclables together. It's very unusual to see paper mixed with glass, cans etc. I would think this would make a big mess to try to sort out. More typical is to have it seperated: newpaper mixed other paper glass/cans/plastic To clarify: The "usually observed rule" is to put different materials into different bags (even placing office-grade paper in separate bags). I've never observed that rule. In fact, I've never heard of it. I have always tossed all the recyclables into the barrel together. Cans and bottles are usually thrown in loose, newspapers are often (but not always) placed inside paper grocery bags, and shredded office paper is contained in plastic garbage bags. Waste Management has never complained. In fact, although "Single Stream" recycling is mentioned on their web site, http://www.wastemanagement.com/WM/services/homes.asp I was able to find no menton of this "usually observed rule." The "usually observed rule" is "usually unwritten" e.g., an understanding which some people observe, and some people do not observe. Maybe being located in a region; which possibly has had excellent results in keeping as much waste as possibile from the landfills, is why enough of us keep different recyclable wastes as separated as possible. -- When are you people going to wake up to the fact that rebates are a SCAM? Whatever! |
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