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Looking for a 30 year fixed. Stated income





CURRENT LOAN: Principal $438K @ 5.5% 7year fixed (o.d. 8/2005)
stated income.


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Comps at around 500K - 525K.

2brm house (doesn't include finished 2nd bathroom and other
improvements)

Middle FICO 750

No consumer debt

Mortgagees - full time public school teachers.






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Looking for a 30 year fixed. Stated income
CURRENT LOAN: Principal $438K @ 5.5% 7year fixed (o.d. 8/2005)
stated income.


Mortgagees - full time public school teachers.


Well, that is a key example of what is wrong with our public
education system. Teachers rich enough for a half-million
dollar house, or dumb enough to get a loan that they cannot
afford. Either way, I wouldn't want them teaching my kids
anything, especially not economics.

-john-

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Looking for a 30 year fixed. Stated income

CURRENT LOAN: Principal $438K @ 5.5% 7year fixed (o.d. 8/2005)
stated income.

Parameters:

Comps at around 500K - 525K.

2brm house (doesn't include finished 2nd bathroom and other
improvements)

Middle FICO 750

No consumer debt

Mortgagees - full time public school teachers.


If you could bring the mortgage amount down to $417,000 you would be able to
get a conforming loan with a better rate.

Look at mortgage rates www.bankrate.com .




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liveoak wrote:

Looking for a 30 year fixed. Stated income
CURRENT LOAN: Principal $438K @ 5.5% 7year fixed (o.d. 8/2005)
stated income.


Mortgagees - full time public school teachers.


Well, that is a key example of what is wrong with our public
education system. Teachers rich enough for a half-million
dollar house, or dumb enough to get a loan that they cannot
afford. Either way, I wouldn't want them teaching my kids
anything, especially not economics.

-john-


You didn't see the 2 bedroom part? Or you think teachers all live where *you*
do? Whichizzit.

Maybe you do have a point if you came out of our educational system...

Banty

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Well, I don't know where you live, but where I live, $400K only gets you
a relatively decent starter home in an okay borderline/transitional
neighborhood. And it would be hard for a teacher to commute two hours
to work just so they can have an affordable house payment.

John A. Weeks III wrote:

Well, that is a key example of what is wrong with our public
education system. Teachers rich enough for a half-million
dollar house, or dumb enough to get a loan that they cannot
afford. Either way, I wouldn't want them teaching my kids
anything, especially not economics.




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Well, I don't know where you live, but where I live, $400K only gets you
a relatively decent starter home in an okay borderline/transitional
neighborhood. And it would be hard for a teacher to commute two hours
to work just so they can have an affordable house payment.

John A. Weeks III wrote:

Well, that is a key example of what is wrong with our public
education system. Teachers rich enough for a half-million
dollar house, or dumb enough to get a loan that they cannot
afford. Either way, I wouldn't want them teaching my kids
anything, especially not economics.


My point is that we constantly hear about teachers being so
underpaid. Well, if that was true, then how could a teacher
afford to make payments on a $550K house? Either the underpaid
teacher thing is a big lie, or your district pays way too much
for teachers.

-john-

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Well, apart from the fact that I am not terribly sure how underpaid
teachers actually are, there are short-term loans with cheap payments,
and for another thing, the house next to me was bought at one point by
three teachers who all lived there for two years then sold it and took
their equity to buy something else.

John A. Weeks III wrote:

My point is that we constantly hear about teachers being so
underpaid. Well, if that was true, then how could a teacher
afford to make payments on a $550K house? Either the underpaid
teacher thing is a big lie, or your district pays way too much
for teachers.


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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:39:13 -0800 (PST), liveoak
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Looking for a 30 year fixed. Stated income





CURRENT LOAN: Principal $438K @ 5.5% 7year fixed (o.d. 8/2005)
stated income.


Parameters:

Comps at around 500K - 525K.

2brm house (doesn't include finished 2nd bathroom and other
improvements)

Middle FICO 750

No consumer debt

Mortgagees - full time public school teachers.




Wait. The government may end up raising the limit for a conforming
loan. Right now, the price of jumbos is much higher than what you're
paying.
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:39:32 -0600, John A. Weeks III
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Samantha Hill - take out TRASH to reply
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Well, I don't know where you live, but where I live, $400K only gets you
a relatively decent starter home in an okay borderline/transitional
neighborhood. And it would be hard for a teacher to commute two hours
to work just so they can have an affordable house payment.

John A. Weeks III wrote:

Well, that is a key example of what is wrong with our public
education system. Teachers rich enough for a half-million
dollar house, or dumb enough to get a loan that they cannot
afford. Either way, I wouldn't want them teaching my kids
anything, especially not economics.


My point is that we constantly hear about teachers being so
underpaid. Well, if that was true, then how could a teacher
afford to make payments on a $550K house? Either the underpaid
teacher thing is a big lie, or your district pays way too much
for teachers.


Well, yeah, you hear a lot of things that are exaggerated
or untrue.

I know teachers that are wildly underpaid. Others that
are too expensive at any price. Both in the same district.
You can't just tar them all with the same brush.

Realistically, teachers are generally going to get paid
whatever it takes to retain them, since most places have
kids that need to be educated. So an expensive West Coast
distict might pay 3x as much as some Mid-west district,
and yet the two still provide approximately the same
lifestyle.

- Rich


Oh shaddup Rich donctha know teachers never deserve any more than the parents of
the kids they teach :-P

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On 29 Jan 2008 14:52:22 -0800, Banty wrote:
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:39:32 -0600, John A. Weeks III
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Samantha Hill - take out TRASH to reply
wrote:

Well, I don't know where you live, but where I live, $400K only gets you
a relatively decent starter home in an okay borderline/transitional
neighborhood. And it would be hard for a teacher to commute two hours
to work just so they can have an affordable house payment.

John A. Weeks III wrote:

Well, that is a key example of what is wrong with our public
education system. Teachers rich enough for a half-million
dollar house, or dumb enough to get a loan that they cannot
afford. Either way, I wouldn't want them teaching my kids
anything, especially not economics.

My point is that we constantly hear about teachers being so
underpaid. Well, if that was true, then how could a teacher
afford to make payments on a $550K house? Either the underpaid
teacher thing is a big lie, or your district pays way too much
for teachers.

Well, yeah, you hear a lot of things that are exaggerated
or untrue.

I know teachers that are wildly underpaid. Others that
are too expensive at any price. Both in the same district.
You can't just tar them all with the same brush.

Realistically, teachers are generally going to get paid
whatever it takes to retain them, since most places have
kids that need to be educated. So an expensive West Coast
distict might pay 3x as much as some Mid-west district,
and yet the two still provide approximately the same
lifestyle.

- Rich


Oh shaddup Rich donctha know teachers never deserve any more than the parents of
the kids they teach :-P


Ain't that the truth. Oh, and plumbers should charge $15.00 an hour too,
even when you wake them up in the middle of the night. :-)

- Rich


Actually, you know what? Everyone should volunteer. Hey, teachers are all
'sposed ta do it for the love of the children - why not everyone else? If they
don't like it, they should find something they *do* want to do. So there nyah.
:-P

Plumbers can work as independant contractors and take the summers off, too.

And we should all live in FEMA trailers; no one can get jealous.

Banty (OK, going to extremes, but hey, if the logic is applied to teachers....)



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WHAT TEACHERS MAKE Taylor Mali

The dinner guests were sitting around the table discussing life. One
man, a CEO, decided to explain
the problem with education. He argued: "What's a kid going to learn
from someone who decided
his best option in life was to become a teacher?" He reminded the
other dinner guests that it's true
what they say about teachers: "Those who can...do. Those who
can't ... teach."

To corroborate, he said to another guest: "You're a teacher, Susan,"
he said. "Be honest. What do you make?"

Susan, who had a reputation of honesty and frankness had to respond.

"You want to know what I make? I make kids work harder than they ever
thought they
could. I can make a C+ feel like a Congressional Medal of Honor and an
A- feel like a slap in the face if the
student did not do his or her very best."

I can make kids sit through 40 minutes of study hall
in absolute silence."

I can make parents tremble in fear when I call home"

You want to know what I make?"

I make kids wonder.

I make them question.

I make them criticize.

I make them apologize and mean it.

I make them write.

I make them read, read, read.

I make them spell definitely beautiful, definitely, beautiful, and
definitely beautiful over and over and over again, until they will
never misspell either one of those words again."

I make them show all their work in math and hide it all on their final
drafts in English.

I make them understand that if you have the brains, follow your
heart...and if someone ever tries to
judge you by what you make, you pay them no attention!

You want to know what I make?

I make a difference.

And you? What do YOU make?"



By the way, you might want to check your grammar. (If you can't figure
it out you might want to ask a teacher.)










On Jan 28, 10:15 am, "John A. Weeks III" wrote:
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liveoak wrote:
Lookingfor a 30 year fixed. Stated income
CURRENT LOAN: Principal $438K @ 5.5% 7year fixed (o.d. 8/2005)
stated income.
Mortgagees - full time public school teachers.


Well, that is a key example of what is wrong with our public
education system. Teachers rich enough for a half-million
dollar house, or dumb enough to get a loan that they cannot
afford. Either way, I wouldn't want them teaching my kids
anything, especially not economics.

-john-

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WHAT TEACHERS MAKE Taylor Mali
I make a difference.

And you? What do YOU make?"


More bleeding heart BS. Kids naturally want to learn, and
just about anyone who can read & write can teach kids to read
and write. If teaching was any big trick, there would be far
fewer of them, it would take far more education, and the pay
would be far greater. The fact that up to 50% of kids drop
out in some areas, and many kids who graduate are functionally
illiterate doesn't reflect all that well on our current state
of education in this county, and teachers have front line
responsibility for this failure. Granted that there are some
really good teachers, and some who are simply amazing. But
that is the 20 part of the 80/20 rule.

-john-

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