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Default Best vacuum for hard timber floors

I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a fantastic
cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!), but it
scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill given the
task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my mother (it'll
stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and downgrading to
something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.


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I buy a vacuum based on the amperage (get highest - most power) and the
cost of bags [filters].

Some bags and filters for bagless vacuums can cost a fortune, so check the
cost of these before buying...


"Graham Saad" wrote in message
I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a

big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a

fantastic
cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!), but it
scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill given

the
task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my mother (it'll
stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and downgrading to
something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on

&
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.




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I buy a vacuum based on the amperage (get highest - most power) and the
cost of bags [filters].

Some bags and filters for bagless vacuums can cost a fortune, so check the
cost of these before buying...


Some bags for bagless vacuums can cost a fortune? Lost me, buddy...

"Graham Saad" wrote in message
I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a
big difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which
had compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a

fantastic
cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!), but it
scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill given
the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my mother
(it'll
stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and downgrading to
something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on

& not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.



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"Graham Saad" wrote in message
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I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a

fantastic
cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!), but it
scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill given

the
task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my mother (it'll
stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and downgrading to
something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.


I gnereally just use a dust mop. I like the Swiffer Max, but they can be
hard to find. I usually just put a microfiber cloth on the Swiffer Max mop
head. I recently got a Swiffer Sweeper, actually a mop made by Dirt Devil
that has been re-branded and is selling under the Swiffer name. It is
cordless and sucks-up pet hair and larger particles and the Swiffer cloth
gets the rest. You don't really need much of a vaccum for hard flooring.
My recommendation would be to get a good dust mop. If you have a lot of
debris, then a soft broom can be helpful. You can probably have the foor
dusted in the time it takes to unwind the cord on the sweeper.


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Graham Saad wrote:
I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's
a big difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place
which had compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a
fantastic cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet
fluff!), but it scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems
like overkill given the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on
giving it to my mother (it'll stop her from coming round to borrow it
once a month) and downgrading to something more suited to the task at
hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos
are that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent
performance on & not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions
appreciated.


Forget a vacuum...get a dust mop and a decent push broom. Dust pan too,
natch.

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Graham Saad wrote:
I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a fantastic
cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!), but it
scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill given the
task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my mother (it'll
stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and downgrading to
something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.


Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.

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"Graham Saad" wrote in message
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I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a
big difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place
which had compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a
fantastic cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet
fluff!), but it scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems
like overkill given the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on
giving it to my mother (it'll stop her from coming round to borrow it
once a month) and downgrading to something more suited to the task at
hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos
are that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent
performance on & not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions
appreciated.


Perfect one: Bissell serial #3102-0

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For any type of wood floors. Scratch free and bagless, It's been around for
years. http://www.imagetextile.com/dustmops.html

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"Graham Saad" wrote in message
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I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a
fantastic cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!),
but it scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill
given the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my
mother (it'll stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and
downgrading to something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.



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m...
Graham Saad wrote:
I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a

big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a

fantastic
cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!), but it
scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill given

the
task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my mother (it'll
stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and downgrading to
something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos

are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on

&
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.


Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.


DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot believe
this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other statements
they make.


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EXT wrote:
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Graham Saad wrote:

I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a


big

difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a


fantastic

cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!), but it
scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill given


the

task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my mother (it'll
stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and downgrading to
something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos


are

that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on


&

not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.



Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.



DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot believe
this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other statements
they make.


You got it.

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The vacuum cleaner used by most of the top housekeepers in top hotels are
either Kaarcher or Numatic.
Henry is a great one.... but has a bag!
Fo reliability, performance nd price... that's the one I use
"Graham Saad" wrote in message
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I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a
fantastic cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!),
but it scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill
given the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my
mother (it'll stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and
downgrading to something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.



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On 08/31/05 11:47 am EXT tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

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Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.


DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot believe
this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other statements
they make.


I'm not seeing any such claim on their Web site.

Dyson's technology was good enough that, after dissing it, Hoover copied
it and lost a patent infringement suit. I was in UK the day the
newspapers reported the court's decision.

We love our DC07.

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Graham Saad wrote:

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.


Here's a useful answer for you Graham.

I use the Sanyo bagless model. It retails for about $240. I had the
first model when it first came out 3 years ago. It worked till today. I
only bought the recent Sanyo model because the old one was looking a
bit beat. I used it to vaccumm the attic and pull out almost 1/2 cubic
metres of dust.

I actually live in a Queenslander with hardwood polished floor, and it
works fine. The thing with polished floor - you don't need that much
suction. I think the Sanyo is about 1200W? It's more than enough.

I did look at Dyson, and unlike you, I did not buy it. For timber
floors, you just cannot justify the extra $300-400. The Hepa filter is
only useful for carpet floors where dust & asthma & allergies might be
an issue.

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On , "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

On 08/31/05 11:47 am EXT tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

snip

Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.


DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot believe
this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other statements
they make.


I'm not seeing any such claim on their Web site.

Dyson's technology was good enough that, after dissing it, Hoover copied
it and lost a patent infringement suit. I was in UK the day the
newspapers reported the court's decision.

We love our DC07.


We love ours.

As for the original poster worried about scratching floors..... you can
turn off the brushes. That's what I do on our wooden floors.

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DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot believe
this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other statements
they make.


I'm not seeing any such claim on their Web site.


The Dyson's do make that claim on the TV commercial if I recall (haven't seen one
in a while).. However, I throw the Dyson's under the gimmick heading like some of
the other vacuums of the past.. I got tired of buying new vac's about every 2-3
years due to them wearing out (cords fraying and falling out, plastic parts breaking,etc)
and finally forked out a fair amount of $$ for my Miele Red Star vacuum.. I've
had it for 5 years now and it works like the day it arrived in the mail.. It's by
far the best vacuum I've ever owned and I'm sure will have many more years of great
service.. I really like the HEPA filter that doesn't spew crap all over the house
like so many (almost all) of the cheapie vacuums always do (hoover, dirt devil, eureka,etc)

Just my $0.02 worth..



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Are you talking about the sc-x1000 as seen he

http://www.sanyo.com.au/hiresimg/Consumer/SCX1000.jpg

If so, it's one I've got short-listed. I'm interested in hearing how it
performs and whether or not you need to replace the filter, or just wash it.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Graham Saad wrote:

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on
&
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.


Here's a useful answer for you Graham.

I use the Sanyo bagless model. It retails for about $240. I had the
first model when it first came out 3 years ago. It worked till today. I
only bought the recent Sanyo model because the old one was looking a
bit beat. I used it to vaccumm the attic and pull out almost 1/2 cubic
metres of dust.

I actually live in a Queenslander with hardwood polished floor, and it
works fine. The thing with polished floor - you don't need that much
suction. I think the Sanyo is about 1200W? It's more than enough.

I did look at Dyson, and unlike you, I did not buy it. For timber
floors, you just cannot justify the extra $300-400. The Hepa filter is
only useful for carpet floors where dust & asthma & allergies might be
an issue.



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Best vacuum I've ever owned by the length of the straight, at least so far
as carpet was concerned. However, the wheels scuff up the timber floors
quite badly.

"Stephen X. Carter" ] wrote in message
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On , "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

On 08/31/05 11:47 am EXT tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

snip

Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.


DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot
believe
this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other
statements
they make.


I'm not seeing any such claim on their Web site.

Dyson's technology was good enough that, after dissing it, Hoover copied
it and lost a patent infringement suit. I was in UK the day the
newspapers reported the court's decision.

We love our DC07.


We love ours.

As for the original poster worried about scratching floors..... you can
turn off the brushes. That's what I do on our wooden floors.

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"Graham Saad" wrote:

|Best vacuum I've ever owned by the length of the straight, at least so far
|as carpet was concerned. However, the wheels scuff up the timber floors
|quite badly.

Duct tape the wheels....

|"Stephen X. Carter" ] wrote in message
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| On , "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:
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|On 08/31/05 11:47 am EXT tossed the following ingredients into the
|ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
|
|snip
|
|Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
|exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.
|
| DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
| means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
| equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
| excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot
| believe
| this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other
| statements
| they make.
|
|I'm not seeing any such claim on their Web site.
|
|Dyson's technology was good enough that, after dissing it, Hoover copied
|it and lost a patent infringement suit. I was in UK the day the
|newspapers reported the court's decision.
|
|We love our DC07.
|
| We love ours.
|
| As for the original poster worried about scratching floors..... you can
| turn off the brushes. That's what I do on our wooden floors.
|
| --
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DYSON -- isn't that the one that uses 100,000 the force of gravity! That
means that the centrifugal force will make one gram of dirt weigh the
equivalent of 100,000 times heavier or 100 kilograms or 220 pounds -- an
excellent example of gross exaggeration in advertising. If I cannot believe
this statement what makes them think that I will believe an other statements
they make.

I'm not seeing any such claim on their Web site.


The Dyson's do make that claim on the TV commercial if I recall (haven't seen one
in a while)..


I've not seen that advert, so I'm not going to comment. :-))

However, I throw the Dyson's under the gimmick heading like some of
the other vacuums of the past..


Take those blinkers off! The principle that Dyson uses to "filter" out
the dust is genuine, and very very effective. Given that it's fairly
common in industrial plant (where he saw the idea) it's surprising that
no-one else thought of it first.

Do you think that all of those other manufacturers would be trying to
copy Dyson if it wasn't genuinely effective?

Do you think that his market share in the UK would be so huge if it
didn't work.

I got tired of buying new vac's about every 2-3
years due to them wearing out (cords fraying and falling out, plastic parts breaking,etc)
and finally forked out a fair amount of $$ for my Miele Red Star vacuum.. I've
had it for 5 years now and it works like the day it arrived in the mail.. It's by
far the best vacuum I've ever owned and I'm sure will have many more years of great
service.. I really like the HEPA filter that doesn't spew crap all over the house
like so many (almost all) of the cheapie vacuums always do (hoover, dirt devil, eureka,etc)


Next to no crap gets spewed out by Dysons.

I'm on my second one - and that's only so because we had to leave one
behind in the UK when we migrated.

Dyson prides himself on build quality - rightly so. In his
autobiography he tells the tale of how his sales were skyrocketing in
the UK (sort of) except from one big store in Bristol. So he went along
incognito to see if he could spot the reason. And the reason seemed to
be that the salesfolk were telling people that Dysons were made of cheap
and nasty plastic and would break easily. So he then (personally)
arranged a presentation to the staff in the store, got up on the
platform, got a big sledgehammer and invited the sales people to try to
smash the plastic. Of course they failed. This story in in his
autobiography - go check it out.


Just my $0.02 worth..


Only worth $0.002. :-))


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On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:12:42 +1000, "Graham Saad"
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Best vacuum I've ever owned by the length of the straight, at least so far
as carpet was concerned. However, the wheels scuff up the timber floors
quite badly.


Odd. Mine does not.

Write to the man and tell him. He likes comments like that....

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Ground floor of my house all wooden or slate. Dyson has attachment for the
arm thingy specially for hard floors. Good job.

Ms Rawlings will be proud of me ....
"Graham Saad" wrote in message
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I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a
fantastic cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!),
but it scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill
given the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my
mother (it'll stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and
downgrading to something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.



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Graham Saad wrote:
Are you talking about the sc-x1000 as seen he

http://www.sanyo.com.au/hiresimg/Consumer/SCX1000.jpg

If so, it's one I've got short-listed. I'm interested in hearing how it
performs and whether or not you need to replace the filter, or just wash it.


Yeah, that's the new model which I've got.

The old model, I used for 3 years without any problems. You can wash
the filter, it's made of a fine mesh on the outside, and a cloth filter
on the inside, but I've had no need to wash it.

Just wind the lever as they show in the manual to shake the dust out,
and it's ready to go.

As far as suction goes, it's pretty strong all the way through. No real
noticable drop n suction, unless you have filled the whole cannister
up.

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"Graham Saad" wrote in message
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"Bill" wrote in message
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I buy a vacuum based on the amperage (get highest - most power) and the
cost of bags [filters].

Some bags and filters for bagless vacuums can cost a fortune, so check

the
cost of these before buying...


Some bags for bagless vacuums can cost a fortune? Lost me, buddy...


Have you checked the cost of FILTERS for those bagless vacuum cleaners?

Still it's funny how things have gone full circle. Most vacuum cleaners were
bagless before someone decided it would be less messy to just throw out a
bag, than clean a filter.
Both choices are well catered for anyhow.

MrT.


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In article 4316f50b.7205267@localhost, Stephen X. Carter wrote:
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 07:11:42 GMT, "Rick F." wrote:

Do you think that all of those other manufacturers would be trying to
copy Dyson if it wasn't genuinely effective?


Hmm.. I've really not looked at any vacuums since we got our Miele a while
back..

Do you think that his market share in the UK would be so huge if it
didn't work.


I've got no idea.. I'm across the pond..

Next to no crap gets spewed out by Dysons.


Well they do from just about every other vacuum cleaner sold in the US
that costs $200+US IMHO..

Dyson prides himself on build quality - rightly so. In his
autobiography he tells the tale of how his sales were skyrocketing in
the UK (sort of) except from one big store in Bristol. So he went along
incognito to see if he could spot the reason. And the reason seemed to
be that the salesfolk were telling people that Dysons were made of cheap
and nasty plastic and would break easily. So he then (personally)
arranged a presentation to the staff in the store, got up on the
platform, got a big sledgehammer and invited the sales people to try to
smash the plastic. Of course they failed. This story in in his
autobiography - go check it out.


That's fine.. Perhaps they're made as good as my Miele.. I'm not going to
try one though.. I see a fair amount of them being sold as re-furbs on
various websites here and there, and that alone tells me something..

I'm just tired of the crappy stuff that most of the Eureka, Hoovers and
(to a slightly lesser degree) Red Devil produce made of flimsy plastic,
and parts that just aren't up to multi years of use (or abuse?).. They
are no better than the $40 printers you buy down at your local Staples..
They're designed for perhaps 1-2 years of service before they end up in
the land fill.. That is just poor environmental responsibility -- much
like w/ many other products which shouldn't be considered consumables, but
are..

Just my $0.0000002 worth..

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Best vacuum I've ever owned by the length of the straight, at least so far
as carpet was concerned. However, the wheels scuff up the timber floors
quite badly.


And besides, it's like you said, it's overkill. Your mom can use it on her
carpets and you can get yourself a nice quiet dust mop (of course, I use my
Dyson wand to suck up the stuff I dustmop into the corner of the room! But
I guess any vacuum hose would do that).

Cindy




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Old Gringo wrote:
Don't let advertising and price fool you, as a $59.00 Eureka will do
exactly what a $500.00 Dyson does. Good Luck in your search.


Wrong, we've had both and the Dyson is superior at picking up dirt and
stuff. The Dyson is the fifth vacuum we bought, and it cleans much
better. Is it worth the money for the additional performance? That's up
to the buyer.

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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:51:51 GMT, "Harold potter esq"
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Ground floor of my house all wooden or slate. Dyson has attachment for the
arm thingy specially for hard floors. Good job.

Ms Rawlings will be proud of me ....
"Graham Saad" wrote in message
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I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a
fantastic cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!),
but it scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill
given the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my
mother (it'll stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and
downgrading to something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.



Which part of the Dyson is scuffing the floor?
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:28:12 GMT, jayson
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:51:51 GMT, "Harold potter esq"
wrote:

Ground floor of my house all wooden or slate. Dyson has attachment for the
arm thingy specially for hard floors. Good job.

Ms Rawlings will be proud of me ....
"Graham Saad" wrote in message
...
I've recently moved house into a place with hard timber floors. It's a big
difference from my previous sprawling shag-pile covered place which had
compelled me to splash out on a new Dyson.

Problem is, in the new environment, I just don't need it. It was a
fantastic cleaner and picks up so much dirt and dust (and carpet fluff!),
but it scuffs my new floors when I'm not careful and seems like overkill
given the task at hand. Accordingly, I'm planning on giving it to my
mother (it'll stop her from coming round to borrow it once a month) and
downgrading to something more suited to the task at hand.

Can anyone recommend a decent mid-range vacuum cleaner? Only provisos are
that it should be bagless (I'm a convert) and have decent performance on &
not scuff, hard timber floors. All suggestions appreciated.



A little old lady answered a knock on the door one day, only to be
confronted by a well-dressed young man carrying a vacuum cleaner.

Good morning, " said the young man. "If I could take a couple of
minutes of your time, I would like to demonstrate the very latest in
high-powered vacuum cleaners. "

"Go away!" said the old lady. "I haven't got any money!" and she
proceeded to close the door.

Quick as a flash, the young man wedged his foot in the door and pushed
wide open. "Don't be too hasty!" he said. "Not until you have at least
seen my demonstration." And with that, he emptied a bucket of horse
manure onto her hallway carpet.

"If this vacuum cleaner does not remove all traces of this horse
manure from your carpet, Madam, I will personally eat the remainder."

The old lady stepped back and said, "Well I hope you've got a darn
good appetite, because they cut off my electricity this morning."


Apart from that...

have you checked http://trial.which.co.uk/?j8uw04

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