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Mystery component in NiCad battery pack
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Rebuilding what I thought was a dead NiCad pack for a cordless phone. The battery pack in question is a Sony BP-T18 - 3.6v, 600mAh. In series connecting 2 of the batteries is an open component with these markings: bel 2A MO 125V I can't i.d. it based on the markings. It kind of looks like a small 1 amp rectifier diode, as far as size and shape go, but there is no polarity marking on it. I think it's some kind of (blown) fuse? I've never seen this in a 3.6v phone battery pack. If it is a fuse, why would they put one in a simple nicad battery pack for a cordless phone? Is it safe to just bypass it? I do have a parts source for micro fuses with leads. (Which look quite different from this one, but would fit.) If it isn't a fuse, what the heck is it? Rick |
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Rick wrote:
If it is a fuse, why would they put one in a simple nicad battery pack for a cordless phone? One possible reason that springs to mind is to stop anything nasty happening if the terminals on the pack are shorted. |
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Does the resistance change with temperature i.e. when cooled or heated slightly or does it just register as a short citcuit?
It could be a thermistor or a thermal fuse. Quote:
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If it is a fuse, why would they put one in a simple nicad battery
pack for a cordless phone? You've never seen a guy put a nicad battery pack into his pocket along with loose change and some keys, I take it :-). NiCads are very capable of getting very hot when shorted out. From your description as a cylindrical package it sounds like that may be a Bel MQ or MS style package (page 1123 in current Digikey catalog.) Tim. |
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Have you not heard of all the people having their faces burned by an
exploding cell phone battery? I have seen several TV news reports which claim it it caused by using replacement batteries made by someone other than the phone manufacturer. There was one report of a girl who had her hip pocket blown off her jeans. (They only showed the jeans on TV). Van |
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I started down this same road the other day. Actually, the nicad pack in
my phone wasn't dead - it was just real old and wouldn't hold a decent charge any more. My local Circuit City wanted something like $19 for a replacement pack. I considered that outrageous, and decided to "restuff" it with three new nicad cells. As I was getting ready to leave Circuit City, I noticed a cordless phone on sale - for $7! Not a wonderful phone, but guess what was inside it? The EXACT SAME battery pack that was selling for $19 on a bubble card on the other side of the aisle. Needless to say, I didn't pay $19 for the bubble card pack, and I didn't rebuild the old one ... Bill Jeffrey ===================== Rick wrote: Hi Rebuilding what I thought was a dead NiCad pack for a cordless phone. The battery pack in question is a Sony BP-T18 - 3.6v, 600mAh. In series connecting 2 of the batteries is an open component with these markings: bel 2A MO 125V I can't i.d. it based on the markings. It kind of looks like a small 1 amp rectifier diode, as far as size and shape go, but there is no polarity marking on it. I think it's some kind of (blown) fuse? I've never seen this in a 3.6v phone battery pack. If it is a fuse, why would they put one in a simple nicad battery pack for a cordless phone? Is it safe to just bypass it? I do have a parts source for micro fuses with leads. (Which look quite different from this one, but would fit.) If it isn't a fuse, what the heck is it? Rick |
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M.Joshi wrote:
Does the resistance change with temperature i.e. when cooled or heated slightly or does it just register as a short citcuit? No - it's open - not shorted. It could be a thermistor or a thermal fuse. Matthew Smith Wrote: Rick wrote:- If it is a fuse, why would they put one in a simple nicad battery pack for a cordless phone?- One possible reason that springs to mind is to stop anything nasty happening if the terminals on the pack are shorted. -- M.Joshi |
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It is a miniature 2 amp fuse.
-- Jerry G. ====== "Rick" wrote in message ... Hi Rebuilding what I thought was a dead NiCad pack for a cordless phone. The battery pack in question is a Sony BP-T18 - 3.6v, 600mAh. In series connecting 2 of the batteries is an open component with these markings: bel 2A MO 125V I can't i.d. it based on the markings. It kind of looks like a small 1 amp rectifier diode, as far as size and shape go, but there is no polarity marking on it. I think it's some kind of (blown) fuse? I've never seen this in a 3.6v phone battery pack. If it is a fuse, why would they put one in a simple nicad battery pack for a cordless phone? Is it safe to just bypass it? I do have a parts source for micro fuses with leads. (Which look quite different from this one, but would fit.) If it isn't a fuse, what the heck is it? Rick |
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"Rick" wrote in message ... M.Joshi wrote: Does the resistance change with temperature i.e. when cooled or heated slightly or does it just register as a short citcuit? No - it's open - not shorted. Almost certainly a fuse, NiCd cells can provide a very high short circuit current, fusing packs is always a good idea. |
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:20:54 -0500 Rick wrote:
Rebuilding what I thought was a dead NiCad pack for a cordless phone. The battery pack in question is a Sony BP-T18 - 3.6v, 600mAh. In series connecting 2 of the batteries is an open component with these markings: It sounds like a thermal fuse. It opens if it gets too hot. They are about 3/16" in dia and maybe 3/8" long, look like a metal case axial lead capacitor with some color of plastic insulation around where one lead exits. Does this sound right? Radio Shack carries a few temps of these. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- |
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