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Lubuntu Linux - moving files only half works.
Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as
many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result there. It seemed to work OK till the HDD got full, since the problem started; I've been careful to make sure I'm paying attention when I click "move" and not "copy", and I double checked that the top bar says "moving". This looks a lot like a bug in Lubuntu! Thanks for any help. |
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"Benderthe.evilrobot" wrote in message ... Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result there. It seemed to work OK till the HDD got full, since the problem started; I've been careful to make sure I'm paying attention when I click "move" and not "copy", and I double checked that the top bar says "moving". This looks a lot like a bug in Lubuntu! Thanks for any help. I think just about everything in Linux only half works. |
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Lubuntu Linux - moving files only half works.
Phoena Greene wrote:
"Benderthe.evilrobot" wrote in message ... Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result there. Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the source. It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing the old ones. That makes good sense! It seemed to work OK till the HDD got full, since the problem started; I've been careful to make sure I'm paying attention when I click "move" and not "copy", and I double checked that the top bar says "moving". This looks a lot like a bug in Lubuntu! Thanks for any help. I think just about everything in Linux only half works. Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've been using some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20 years! I also have a number of devices that are run by PCs (or Beagle Bones) running Linux. My family is almost exclusively running Linux for general email, web browsing, writing papers for school, etc. Works for me. Jon |
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Jon Elson prodded the keyboard with:
Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've been using some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20 years! I also have a number of devices that are run by PCs (or Beagle Bones) running Linux. My family is almost exclusively running Linux for general email, web browsing, writing papers for school, etc. Works for me. Jon I've been running Linux since my wife bought me a book with Yggdrasil Linux bound into it, about 1994/5. In those days you had to compile everything yourself. Fun times... -- Best Regards: Baron. |
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Il giorno martedì 7 marzo 2017 21:14:26 UTC+1, Baron ha scritto:
Jon Elson prodded the keyboard with: Well, while there have been a few issues over the years, I've been using some version of Linux as my main desktop for almost 20 years! I also have a number of devices that are run by PCs (or Beagle Bones) running Linux. My family is almost exclusively running Linux for general email, web browsing, writing papers for school, etc. Works for me. Jon I've been running Linux since my wife bought me a book with Yggdrasil Linux bound into it, about 1994/5. In those days you had to compile everything yourself. Fun times... half a day to compile the kernel and then you found out that you forgot to include a driver, so it didn't boot. Bye Jack |
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Do not use a long extension wire for the USB.
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"Jon Elson" wrote in message ... Phoena Greene wrote: "Benderthe.evilrobot" wrote in message ... Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result there. Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the source. It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing the old ones. That makes good sense! Near as I can tell; its a file size issue - and probably the NTFS USB stick causing the mischief. |
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wrote in message ... Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. mark WTF?!!! |
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On 03/08/2017 09:28 PM, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:
"Jon Elson" wrote in message ... Phoena Greene wrote: "Benderthe.evilrobot" wrote in message ... Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result there. Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the source. It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing the old ones. That makes good sense! Near as I can tell; its a file size issue - and probably the NTFS USB stick causing the mischief. did you unmount the usb stick manually as root, or sync, so the stuff got actually written out? They had an issue once when the files got damaged when you just unplugged the stick. It was related to how their drive cache works. Maybe no one ever figured out how to fix it. They do tend to add layers of script and candy to obfuscate those issues. check dmesg for kernel warnings/errors (not the file, type dmesg on the bash prompt) |
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Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? |
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"Johann Klammer" wrote in message news On 03/08/2017 09:28 PM, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote: "Jon Elson" wrote in message ... Phoena Greene wrote: "Benderthe.evilrobot" wrote in message ... Downloading from FTP with Filezilla; The HDD got full so I transferred as many files as possible to 3x 32Gb USB sticks - The sticks are showing that they now contain around 29.5Gb, but the free space on the HDD is only showing about 5Gb - I did try emptying the trash folder, but no result there. Probably if the transfer fails, it doesn't remove the files from the source. It wants to make SURE the files on the stick are safe before removing the old ones. That makes good sense! Near as I can tell; its a file size issue - and probably the NTFS USB stick causing the mischief. did you unmount the usb stick manually as root, or sync, so the stuff got actually written out? They had an issue once when the files got damaged when you just unplugged the stick. Only need one more for a hat-trick............................................. ..... |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still limits. I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB stick into a computer. Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the desk...................................... |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still limits. I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB stick into a computer. Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the desk...................................... Or a wifi adapter, so having it on a cable means you can orient it for best operation. I've found a bunch of Logitech USB extension cords that have a little stand at the remote end, so it can sit on your desktop. Certainly useful if you don't have USB outlets on the front of your computer, or even if the computer is below the desk. The TP-Link USB wifi adapter I just bought came with an extension cord, but no little plastic thing to sit on the desk. Michael |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message xample.org... On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still limits. I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB stick into a computer. Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the desk...................................... Or a wifi adapter, so having it on a cable means you can orient it for best operation. How did Wi-Fi adapters find their way in? |
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message xample.org... On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still limits. I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB stick into a computer. Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the desk...................................... Or a wifi adapter, so having it on a cable means you can orient it for best operation. How did Wi-Fi adapters find their way in? Because it's a "USB stick". Michael |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still limits. I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB stick into a computer. Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the desk There are a myriad of devices that can go into USB ports, many just for recharging only. |
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Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still limits. I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB stick into a computer. Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the desk...................................... Maybe a webcam used as a security camera, or any of hundreds of other USB devices. That's why it's called the 'Universal Serial Bus'. This computer came with eight USB ports, then I added a card with another four to eliminate an external hub. I also have a long USB to USB cable made to transfer files from one PC to another. It replaced the old Laplink cable that used the Parallel ports. Here is a handy program that helps you identify registered USB devices that have been connected to your computer 32 bit: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usbdeview.zip 64 bit: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usbdeview-x64.zip -- Never **** off an Engineer! They don't get mad. They don't get even. They go for over unity! ;-) |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message xample.org... On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message xample.org... On Sat, 11 Mar 2017, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: Do not use a long extension wire for the USB. It shouldn't matter anymore should it? What if the USB extension is over 100'? Do you need extra resistance for the USB load side pins? That would exceed the length specification for USB cables, which is five meters. They do sell longer cables with a 'repeater', but there are still limits. I'm still wondering why anyone would use an extension cable to plug a USB stick into a computer. Maybe an old tower case with no front sockets and stashed under the desk...................................... Or a wifi adapter, so having it on a cable means you can orient it for best operation. How did Wi-Fi adapters find their way in? Because it's a "USB stick". Which I mentioned elsewhere had NTFS file system......................... Several people grasped that it was a memory stick - I guess that one sorted the men from the boys. |
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