[Puddin' Man]

Panasonic 17" color tv, mnfgr'd 1987. Standard design, layout near as
I can tell.

Dog bumps tv stand, pic is still viewable, but goes snowy and has
pulsing waves across screen.

If I fiddle the power cord where it enters the box or bang on side of
box I can get the proper pic back, if only for a second or 2.

I'm not particularly skilled at electronics, but if I could get proper
access to where the cord connects to the power supply, I could likely
solder the connection or some-such. Access looks kinda problematical:
it's right under the nasty ol' CRT. The one that stores (what?) 20k
volts?

I know, I know. The unit is truly jurassic, and the new LCD's etc
are priced down a bunch. But it's stereo and it's connected to my
jurassic stereo audio system. And I don't think enough of what they
broadcast to spend any $ on it unless I have no choice.

Any ideas on how to approach it? Just workbench it and start
disassembling stuff? Cautions other than about the 20kv "gun" at the
back of the CRT? Etc, etc.

Thx,
Puddin'

"Law Without Equity Is No Law At All. It Is A Form Of Jungle Rule."

[David Nebenzahl]

On 9/5/2009 5:36 PM Puddin' Man spake thus:

Any ideas on how to approach it? Just workbench it and start
disassembling stuff? Cautions other than about the 20kv "gun" at the
back of the CRT? Etc, etc.

To begin with, you could probably do with a little high-voltage
precautionary education before you seriously zap yourself.

The high voltage isn't at the "gun" (actually the tube socket) at the
back of the CRT: it's at the anode, which surrounds the tube and has a
high-voltage lead connecting it to the rest of the set. This acts as a
giant capacitor which can store a lethal charge.

Others here will tell you more. But learn up about HV first.


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Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

[Andrew Erickson]

In article ,
Puddin' Man wrote:

Panasonic 17" color tv, mnfgr'd 1987. Standard design, layout near as
I can tell.

Dog bumps tv stand, pic is still viewable, but goes snowy and has
pulsing waves across screen.

If I fiddle the power cord where it enters the box or bang on side of
box I can get the proper pic back, if only for a second or 2.

I'm not particularly skilled at electronics, but if I could get proper
access to where the cord connects to the power supply, I could likely
solder the connection or some-such. Access looks kinda problematical:
it's right under the nasty ol' CRT. The one that stores (what?) 20k
volts?

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Any ideas on how to approach it? Just workbench it and start
disassembling stuff? Cautions other than about the 20kv "gun" at the
back of the CRT? Etc, etc.

You're likely right to suspect a poor connection somewhere, possibly a
soldered joint that's cracked or similar.

It's almost certainly not the power cord connection, though, simply
because a poor connection there would generally cause the set to
intermittently turn itself off or not turn on, rather than cause snow.
Snow suggests something is amiss in the RF or perhaps video circuitry.

The first place I'd look is the RF or video input connection (on the
outside of the TV)--perhaps the connection is loose or corroded, or the
cable is breaking near the connector.

If that's not it, then it's some internal connection or solder joint in
the set. Positively do some research and reading up on how to safely
work around in a TV before thinking about opening it up. Besides the
high voltage for the CRT, there's high voltages in the power supply
circuitry and the danger of implosion. If you have any doubts, you'd
probably be better off taking it to a repair shop, assuming the set is
otherwise worth spending money on (i.e. the picture, when the set is
working properly, is bright and sharp and clear and generally well
behaved).

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

[Puddin' Man]

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:52:53 -0400, Andrew Erickson wrote:

The first place I'd look is the RF or video input connection (on the
outside of the TV)--perhaps the connection is loose or corroded, or the
cable is breaking near the connector.

The video input is about 1" from the power cord. The power cord seemed
to be -very- sensitive to the condition, the vid. input less so, but
after firmly re-seating the vid. input, the problem seems to have
disappeared. So it was either the video input as you said or it's
an intermittent problem that's likely to be a real headache down the
road.

Much Thanks,
P

"Law Without Equity Is No Law At All. It Is A Form Of Jungle Rule."

[Jerry G.]

On Sep 5, 8:36*pm, Puddin' Man wrote:
Panasonic 17" color tv, mnfgr'd 1987. Standard design, layout near as
I can tell.

Dog bumps tv stand, pic is still viewable, but goes snowy and has
pulsing waves across screen.

If I fiddle the power cord where it enters the box or bang on side of
box I can get the proper pic back, if only for a second or 2.

I'm not particularly skilled at electronics, but if I could get proper
access to where the cord connects to the power supply, I could likely
solder the connection or some-such. Access looks kinda problematical:
it's right under the nasty ol' CRT. The one that stores (what?) 20k
volts?
More than likely there is a broken /intermittant connection, or the
circuit board itself, or some other component(s) have been damaged.

Considering the age of the set, I would not want to put any serious
money in to this servicing this set.


Jerry G.





I know, I know. The unit is truly jurassic, and the new LCD's etc
are priced down a bunch. But it's stereo and it's connected to my
jurassic stereo audio system. And I don't think enough of what they
broadcast to spend any $ on it unless I have no choice.

Any ideas on how to approach it? Just workbench it and start
disassembling stuff? Cautions other than about the 20kv "gun" at the
back of the CRT? Etc, etc.

* Thx,
* Puddin'

"Law Without Equity Is No Law At All. It Is A Form Of Jungle Rule."